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Offline Big John

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Sandcast #5311
« on: October 24, 2016, 08:02:20 PM »
Just picked up a cb750.  Maybe a sandcast.  Was in 4 boxes.  Before starting anything, I hope you can help me evaluate what I have and give me a direction to continue...

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2016, 08:03:31 PM »
Here are some pictures...
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 08:07:48 PM »
BINGO...congrats to you! :)  That pictured worked John.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 08:16:11 PM »
Hi Johnie.  I posted 6 pictures.  I hope you get them all.  I'm  going to Canada for the rest of the week.  I don't think I'll get to reply until the weekend.  Thanks for all the help!

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2016, 08:33:12 PM »
Yes, the pics all came through good. Looking forward to watching your progress.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 08:39:41 PM »
 I think there may be an external difference on the cam cover, look at the shape and screw location for the tach drive.....
 WAFFLE cover i suspect...
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2016, 06:57:44 AM »
Not meaning to be too picky but I would call it sandcast #5506 (with engine #E5311). Whatever you call it, you hit the jackpot. Congratulations! You'll want to check out this site:
http://www.cb750sandcastonly.com/
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2016, 06:04:11 PM »
  I have 5511, they were probably made the same day, probably within the hour.
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 07:27:20 AM »
 A bike this early should be put together as original as possible, there's no sense changing things and making it worth less than it can be.  There are two schools of thought, leave the patina and keep it like it is or restore it to new condition.  The potential value vs cost of restoration may be your guide.  Some guys choose to pass along their good fortune and use the cash to buy a less rare running bike. Good luck whichever you choose, I think it's fun to learn the parts differences and assemble a parts correct bike.
  In my case, I only needed handlebars, an ignition switch and exhaust pipes
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 04:27:33 AM »
 Congrats on your find, looking forward to more pictures of some of the other pieces to it. As for the ignition switch that is off or for a later model. Yours would have been a recessed switch that looks more like this one in the pic.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 10:57:42 AM »
If you are lucky that switch may be in the boxes, and need some work.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 07:04:02 PM »
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2016, 07:55:33 PM »
Thanks everyone for all the information on the Sandcast.  I've had an old Honda CB350f in the back of the garage for a bunch of years and thought I would get that going and maybe learn something about my 750 in the process...and give me time to think about how to proceed.   I never had the 350f running so I just jumped in.  I had to fix the front brake master cylinder...I was surprised that basically cleaning it and flushing the fluid got it working.  Then the carbs. Again...just took them apart, cleaned, and reassembled. Attached to a auxiliary tank, new battery, and it took off...to my surprise. I cleaned the old tank installed it and road it around a little bit.  FYI...what a great bike.   It was missing a little so I ordered new O-rings for the carburetor and now it's not missing at all.  I still have a few odds and ends to do (I'm looking for a very nice original red tank) and then plan on riding it next summer.

Okay...what about the 750?   I'm a little disappointed that many of the parts may not be sandcast...like the key switch, tank, and parts of the front end.  It also doesn't have the original paint.  I even think the frame was repainted.  It's all apart. And it's ugly (flat black tank, black parts and in poor painted shape). I'm going to do some more research...I don't even know what a waffle valve cover is?  And maybe a little better inventory of parts.  Right now my plan is to paint the frame and body parts and then a good cleaning of the other parts and just put it together and get it running.  I will try to use correct sandcast parts (or good reproduction).  I'll try and post more pictures.  And again...thanks for your interest in this project.

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 07:58:50 PM »
A picture of the valve cover...is this a sandcast cover?

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2016, 08:01:57 PM »
My CB350f.

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2016, 08:05:32 PM »
And I just noticed that all the motor bolts/screws are incorrect.

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2016, 08:06:18 PM »
The underneath side of the first valve covers, it had a sort of crisscrossing of diagonal lines pattern..some call it the waffle cover..
 I wouldnt worry too much , if you are carefull and patient..you will eventually find more stuff.
 The good part though, if you dont want to sink a whole bunch of coin at this time.. Is to assemble it. With a few period modifications.. It will always retain its value, plus you will have a 69 750 ....not too many roaming the streets.
 The easiest way to fix the paint and body situation is to buy the stuff from Yamiya.. Not cheap, but correct, and get the right look ..easily..
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2016, 08:09:37 PM »
Nice looking baby four. What's wrong with your tank John??

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2016, 08:40:38 PM »
 Check where the screw holds the tach cable in. A sandcast cover is flat right there, a later cover is raised slightly. Under the breather cover there is no baffle at the end of the vent tube. There are a few more, look for an ink date code inside the cover also.
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2016, 06:40:48 AM »
Again, thanks for all the help...
I'll post some more pictures. The valve cover has a date code of 44 6 25...I have no idea what that means. It does look like it has some kind of waffle pattern. I'm not sure about the baffle or flat tach screw housing location. Let me know what you think. Pretty sure front fender is a good one. I don't think the front wheel is... but the rear looks like a sandcast.

The 350f tank looks better than it is...

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2016, 06:42:14 AM »
Cover

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2016, 06:44:19 AM »
Front wheel...

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2016, 06:45:37 AM »
Rear wheel

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2016, 06:47:21 AM »
350f tank...

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Re: Sandcast #5311
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2016, 06:48:26 AM »
350f tank...