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Value for 1971 CB750
« on: July 02, 2017, 08:43:48 PM »
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Circumstances have presented me with an opportunity to buy a gorgeous K2. It's not perfect, but runs easily and has been meticulously maintained by its late second owner. It has the HM300 series 4-4 exhaust in very good shape, has a repainted tank in what looks to be perfect shape and looks rust free everywhere with about 30k miles on it. It was appraised at $10,000 USD. Do you guys think that is a reasonable sum for this bike to fetch? It looks very similar to this one:  . I don't have the engine/frame numbers, but let's assume they suggest it's all the same bike from the factory for this discussion. Thanks in advance for your thoughts folks!


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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 10:03:44 PM »
I do not think that is an accurate appraisal for the bike you describe.  About half that...
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Re: Value for 1971 CB750
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2017, 10:12:09 PM »
If it has HM300 pipes and they are the original, it is a K1, not a K2. The first digit of the engine and frame number will be "1" if K1, and "200xxxxx) if K2. The K2 was manufactured starting in late Fall of 1971 (I have one of the first ones to reach the USA), using largely K1 parts but with the K2 "dashboard" on the handlebars (K1 has the indicator lights in the instruments instead), the larger taillight, higher-rise handlebars, the locking seat, and the unique K2 instruments, mounted to the "rhino horn" top triple tree. The seat, if original, will have a bead on the top piece that drops down where the rider's thigh engages it, and the seat foam is narrower at this "saddle cut" by nearly 1cm as measured across the saddle at that point. This was the ONLY bike with this seat, and it stopped before the K2 did, in May of 1972 production, for the K3 (cheaper) seat. IMHO, the genuine K2 seat was by far the most superior seat of all of the 750s...1000 mile days were no problem with it, did many!

The carbs will be "657a" marked on their front ends, too, and will have brass floats. If it is K1, it will have #115 mainjets (if OEM) and if K2 it will have #110 mainjets. The air screws in the carbs (if OEM) will have tiny holes in their tips. The kickstart arm will have a very thin rubber on it, and the shift lever will be very smooth and chrome on the outer side, and the inner side will be almost as smooth (but not sandcast-looking), but not as well chromed.

Finally: the right-side rear engine case bolt, barely visible through the oil hoses, will have an oversized-looking washer on the bolt if it is a K1 engine (or K2 early), with the OD of the bolt looking to be too big for the bolt, but the hole is the correct size. This went away in about March of 1972 in the K2.

A K1 or early K2 has Stellite valve guides with no seals on the intake guides, instead they are longer and have pointy, tapered tops. These are impossible to see in the assembled engine, though...they last for 100,000+ miles, too.

The front forks will NOT have the stepped-in, thin-looking lower legs: they have a slight thinning taper just below the fork boots and inside those forks are some massive brass bearings. These are the tunable (and rebuildable) forks, and are desirable, IMHO. If K1, the fork ears will be painted and rusty: if K2 they will be chrome and rusty on their inner sides where the chrome did not reach.

Value: a pristine K1 could bring $10,000, an early pristine K2 might be considerably less than that, as there were many more of them.
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Re: Value for 1971 CB750
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 09:38:20 PM »
 Thanks for the info Mark, helped me too.
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Re: Value for 1971 CB750
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 09:49:33 PM »
Stev-o and Mark, thanks for the feedback. I saw the bike again and it was built in June of '71, frame no. is 1095675 and engine no. is 1095988 or 1095938, tough to distinguish in the photo I took. Indicators are in the gauges and there is no dashboard. One odd thing is that it does have a lockable seat. Could the Canadian K1 have that as a slight variation compared to American K1s that may have been produced earlier in '71? Only 7500 miles on this baby, so I'm going to take her home.


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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 09:59:40 PM »
 Nice bike, hope you get along with it nicely.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2017, 02:01:36 AM »
Post some pics mate, a nice K1 here in Oz will set you back upwards of $10K. ;D
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Re: Value for 1971 CB750
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 04:57:33 AM »
Stev-o and Mark, thanks for the feedback. I saw the bike again and it was built in June of '71, frame no. is 1095675 and engine no. is 1095988 or 1095938, tough to distinguish in the photo I took. Indicators are in the gauges and there is no dashboard. One odd thing is that it does have a lockable seat. Could the Canadian K1 have that as a slight variation compared to American K1s that may have been produced earlier in '71? Only 7500 miles on this baby, so I'm going to take her home.


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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2017, 11:32:59 AM »
There you go Terry! Ended up being slightly higher than $6,000 US.

Ekpent, thanks for your comment. I thought that was odd too, but the bike was 'certified' collectible status. Makes me think everything should be OEM and per Mark's comment above, the rest of it certainly aligns with a K1. Even the slight rubber covering of the kickstarter. Perhaps as Honda transitioned production to K2s, the last few summer K1s left the factory with the first locking seat and also ended up in the Canadian market? Alternatively, I suppose the seat could have been retrofitted and overlooked by whoever certified the bike as a collectible.


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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2017, 11:39:47 AM »
Also noticed that when I initially tapped the membership for knowledge, I assumed 30k miles because I did not take bit of the mileage on my first look. I later corrected that to ~7500 miles later in the discussion after seeing it again. What a beaut!


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Re: Value for 1971 CB750
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2017, 01:26:21 PM »
That is a nice looking bike and clean as a whistle. As a K1 owner, Of course I'm interested in what a nice K1 is worth. You should know run-tmc, that your seat is a K2 seat and your rear shocks, Hagons?, are an upgrade over the worn out originals. Your numbers s/n's look ok, my November70 has 1067xxx and E1068xxx, engine about 350 higher. My original 300 pipes rusted out pretty quick, I scored a set of 341 takeoffs and have had them on for 40+ years. But no doubt, a set of original 300 pipes are worth more.
I don't know what certified collectible means. Do you have a certificate?

I really don't know the value because mine is not for sale, but $6000us sounds ok.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2017, 03:14:03 PM »

Ended up being slightly higher than $6,000 US.

...but the bike was 'certified' collectible status. whoever certified the bike as a collectible.


Congrats, $6K is a long way from $10K!   Was is this "certified" business?

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2017, 03:35:43 PM »
That's a great bike for $6K.  Nice find.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2017, 04:45:08 PM »
That looks fantastic mate, great pickup! Yep, as has been said before, it's got a later K2 seat and after-market rear shocks, but everything else looks spot on! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2017, 07:20:00 PM »
Truth be told Stev-o, I don't know what the certification means! I'll inherit the binder once I take possession as well, then see if I can shed a bit of light on your question.

As far as Mark's note above goes, sounds like the K2 seat isn't such a bad thing either! I'm pumped to get ahold of it!


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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 06:54:49 PM »
Finally brought this beauty home with me. Front brake will need some work but otherwise, she purrs along pretty nicely!


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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 06:59:42 PM »
That looks fantastic mate, enjoy! ;D
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2017, 06:29:30 AM »
Congrats.  Get it out of the garage and on the road!  Front brake is a piece of cake....
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2017, 07:10:02 AM »
Congrats, nice K1 . Seat could be changed for a few reasons.
 Some may worry about battery theft or their papers under the seat, plus they may keep cash under there while travelling...you never know. Or seat got damaged and they had a chance to buy K2. K2 came out with helmet lock on the frame , i doubt yours would have them.
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2017, 11:35:53 AM »
Beautiful and well purchased.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 01:46:15 PM »
Stev-o, the bike was formerly registered in the province of BC. The provincial registry is a place called ICBC and they will allow your bike to be registered as collectible if it is older than 25 years, has no visible rust, paint scratches, bubbles, etc, and no modifications beyond OEM to the engine or drivetrain. Kind of neat.


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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 02:03:22 PM »
Apparently you can get by with a K2 seat though...


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