Author Topic: Saddam Hussein - hanging is BS (Read 12952 times)

Uncle Ernie · « **Reply #75 on:** January 04, 2007, 12:43:21 PM »

Judging by his avatar, I'm guessing Osama lives inside Richard.

And I don't hate W as much as I'm afraid of what he and his government can do. Right Wing extremists really worry me. I saw on the news this morning that the government can now open mail "in case of an emergency."

Further, you youngsters will likely re-think this economy when you need Social Security and health bennies you can't afford. Buy gold- when China wants it's money back, we're all screwd.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #76 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:13:09 PM »

Quote from: seaweb11 on January 04, 2007, 01:11:34 AM

Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 04, 2007, 12:18:02 AM
Quote from: seaweb11 on January 03, 2007, 11:39:23 PM
I hate dislike him a lot! Before he got on his high horse the US dollar was at $1.50 Cdn.

Now it's a measly 1.15
took $40,000 out of my pocket per year since!

Well actually, that part I like, it's great for me when I buy stuff from the US Derek, much more affordable! Hmmnnn, maybe i was too harsh on ol' Georgie, sure, he's a Drongo, but he's helped out all the Ebay jockeys like me, ha ha!

OK so....did you save $40,000 last year on your online purchases from the States last year?

Well last year I've bought about $10,000.00 worth of stuff from the US online, or from Ebay, or from you guys, (geez I'm a sad bastard!) and considering the Aussie dollar has increased in value around 25% against the greenback since 9/11, I'm guessing I've saved several thousand bucks Derek, so that's good, I don't feel like I'm being penalised for not living in the US. (as much as I'd love to, if Oz ever sunk into the ocean)

The only bad thing is that I'm still selling my oil cooler adapters for $75.00, 5 years after I started making them, so whereas before I was making $150.00 AUD per item, now I'm only making $100, but what the heck, as an international seller, I have to accept that the world economic downturn and market fluctuations will often have an adverse effect on my capital growth, and if it's all too hard, I should just stop whining, get off my ass and get a real job like all my other poor-ass "working class" SOHC4 schmuck friends, ha ha! (Where's that "tongue in cheek" smiley, you lazy mods?)

burmashave · « **Reply #77 on:** January 04, 2007, 02:05:17 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Ernie on January 04, 2007, 12:43:21 PM

...Right Wing extremists really worry me....

And left wing extremists don't?

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #78 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:01:52 PM »

Quote from: burmashave on January 04, 2007, 02:05:17 PM

Quote from: Uncle Ernie on January 04, 2007, 12:43:21 PM
...Right Wing extremists really worry me....

And left wing extremists don't?

Well I don't want to pre-empt Unki Ernie's response KK, but I think he's saying that this whole situation has come about because of intolerant right wingers, the "lefties", have been pretty inactive of late, don't you think? Cheers, Terry.

ElCheapo · « **Reply #79 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:17:52 PM »

THEY ARE ALL WRONG WHEN THE GO FUNDY! I don't care if it is a Buddist. Go fundy and you are a RETARD.. Well Crap now I pissed off everyone. For those I pissed OFF, piss on yourself.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #80 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:59:58 PM »

Quote from: ElCheapo on January 04, 2007, 04:17:52 PM

THEY ARE ALL WRONG WHEN THE GO FUNDY! I don't care if it is a Buddist. Go fundy and you are a RETARD.. Well Crap now I pissed off everyone. For those I pissed OFF, piss on yourself.

Well I'm not into golden showers Tom, but I otherwise agree with you, funda-mental-ists are just that, mental.

Christian Funda-mental-ists are just as bad (in my opinion) as Muslim funda-mental-ists, and cause more trouble than they really are worth. More wars have been fought over religion, than just about anything else, sadly.

GW and his cronies are Christian Funda-mental-ists, and he draws his power from the support of like-minded loonies, so it's no wonder that the Muslim "Insurgents" think they're fighting a "Holy War", they probably are, we just haven't been told that small detail yet. Cheers, Terry.

burmashave · « **Reply #81 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:40:41 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 04, 2007, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: burmashave on January 04, 2007, 02:05:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Ernie on January 04, 2007, 12:43:21 PM
...Right Wing extremists really worry me....

And left wing extremists don't?

Well I don't want to pre-empt Unki Ernie's response KK, but I think he's saying that this whole situation has come about because of intolerant right wingers, the "lefties", have been pretty inactive of late, don't you think? Cheers, Terry.

Terry, check out what's happening on college campuses in the US. See leftists physically assault a conservative speaker in an official college discussion forum:

I'm not talking about the bleating of being so brave to dissent (Help! Help! I'm being repressed!); these are not cases of being "afraid" to dissent. Rather, they are cases in which free speech -- or privileges provided to other groups -- is denied to conservatives.

I can provide more examples, including personal ones, of leftists actually preventing free speech both on and off college campuses. To be a member of a conservative organization on a college campus is often to know that not only are other students opposed to existence of your group, but also that the college administration may be eager to deny your group privileges granted to all others. At a minimum, complaints by conservative groups on campus often fall on deaf ears.

I would also say again that many of the tools now being used to fight terrorism (Echelon and Carnivore) were put in place a long time ago. Where was the outcry when Clinton deployed Carnivore, a program that sifts all of our emails? Why has the media only now discovered Echelon, a program that has probably been in place since the 1960's and which was fully described in the 1980's? Make an international call in the US, and Echelon is there. Why did few complain when RICO -- a tool now used far beyond its original intent -- was enacted? Many of the provisions of RICO are similar to those in the Patriot Act; however, the difference is that RICO is much, much more likely to be used (justifiably or not) against an American, and of course, RICO does not have the Congressional reporting required by the Patriot Act. How can there be true fear of dissent when so many talk about it in private and public forums? Given that my views seem not to be with the majority in this forum, why is my view not considered dissent?

PLEASE, get my points here:

1) Left wing extremists are active and do now actively deny conservatives free speech.
2) Much hysteria now concerns programs put in place long ago by other administrations. Intellectual honesty causes us to ask why the hysteria now and not before?

ElCheapo · « **Reply #82 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:53:12 PM »

Secretly this was a Halloween prank gone wrong. So much for wearing the Saddam mask

Liberals = attack speaker - No one dies
Conservatives = attack everyone (or atleast the ones sitting the oil) - Thousands die

burmashave · « **Reply #83 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:27:30 PM »

Quote from: ElCheapo on January 04, 2007, 05:53:12 PM

Secretly this was a Halloween prank gone wrong. So much for wearing the Saddam mask

Liberals = attack speaker - No one dies
Conservatives = attack everyone (or atleast the ones sitting the oil) - Thousands die

The point was made above that there is little to fear from left wing extremists, and I responded. I don't think your statements refute what I said, nor do I see how they support the claim made about our gentle left wingers.

Are we to assume from your first statement that it is not a great problem if conservatives are denied free speech, provided that no one is killed? Is it only liberals who can bleat about fear of creating dissent? Do liberals provide examples of free speech denied?

As for attacking those with oil, Afghanistan has nothing to do with oil. Yes, men and women do die when we go to war. Perhaps you would mock me; however, I fervently wish things could be otherwise. I have always felt an unpayable debt to all of our service men and women who have made and who continue to make sacrifices for me. I do my best to serve how I can.

[edit 4 Jan: typo]

Klark Kent · « **Reply #84 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:45:21 PM »

I would be glad to be the one who tells you that there is something to fear from left wing extremists. at this point, so much of what is making our 'lives' possible is wrapped up in the interests of so few boards of directors, that left wing extremists do have a lot to threaten you with. they have sustainable systems of food, energy, and housing, they have workers rights, they have human rights, they feel strongly about the conditions that the least of us live through, and they think it can be made better by redistributing the assets of a few of us. what I can't understand is why you defend these few. and i never said you shouldn't be afraid, if, indeed, it is these fools you wish to support. i think everyone should be able to choose the banner they fly over their house. i would never infringe on your freedom of speech. but i do think some people speak to me more than others and can't hep challenging those that seem to speak a different langauge. it's all a desire to communicate- nothing so political or important, just a personal obsession with communication and language.

after all the bullshi+ the last seven years have done more for those who wish to change things than it has done for those who wish to maintain whatever business interests they are currently exploiting, so i for one (a left winger by your assesment) look foward with a sort of tense optimism, knowing that these fools are bringing about one doozy of a roller caoster ride, and when its all over things will never be the same.
-KK

Uncle Ernie · « **Reply #85 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:23:34 PM »

Rev Shave, you are right, of course. It's just that no one cares right now. The RightWing has been very smug and that has inspired folks and made them feel safe. The Left Wing just critisizes and beats it's chest. Folks began to relize the Right Wing ws a bunch of jerks, so they're voting for the Left Wingers. Only problem is, the Lefties are going to be in deep when everybody figures out they haven't any idea of the difference betweeen their butts and their elbows. John Kerry is just the tip of the iceberg.

"and when it's all over, things will never be the same." I still have the 1968 poster and T-shirt. Were you there, too?

burmashave · « **Reply #86 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:24:03 PM »

Cool. I had just flipped my WKvKK/KKvWK timer.

Quote from: Klark Kent on January 04, 2007, 07:45:21 PM

I would be glad to be the one who tells you that there is something to fear from left wing extremists. at this point, so much of what is making our 'lives' possible is wrapped up in the interests of so few boards of directors, that left wing extremists do have a lot to threaten you with. they have sustainable systems of food, energy, and housing, they have workers rights, they have human rights, they feel strongly about the conditions that the least of us live through, and they think it can be made better by redistributing the assets of a few of us. what I can't understand is why you defend these few. and i never said you shouldn't be afraid, if, indeed, it is these fools you wish to support. i think everyone should be able to choose the banner they fly over their house. i would never infringe on your freedom of speech. but i do think some people speak to me more than others and can't hep challenging those that seem to speak a different langauge. it's all a desire to communicate- nothing so political or important, just a personal obsession with communication and language.

Uh, that would be politics. I don't fear politics.

Quote from: Klark Kent on January 04, 2007, 07:45:21 PM

after all the bullshi+ the last seven years have done more for those who wish to change things than it has done for those who wish to maintain whatever business interests they are currently exploiting, so i for one (a left winger by your assesment) look foward with a sort of tense optimism, knowing that these fools are bringing about one doozy of a roller caoster ride, and when its all over things will never be the same.
-KK

KK, I know you're not a left winger, I really hope I didn't imply that. Perhaps we differ on the tail and the dog. Sometime ago I was working in a far away land (actually your fair state). A beneficent ruler of the nation decreed that more money should be spent in an area he felt was languishing. More money was spent. Most was wasted. At the national level, an unbelievable sum (I believe it was over a hundred billion guilder) simply could not be accounted for. The peasantry, whose children suffered the most, suspicioned that the rich burgermeisters had pocketed much of the money. Sadly, nothing could not be proven.

I witnessed a spending program that was then taken advantage of to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Those pocketing the sums did not drive the decision process; however, they were first in line to get the money once it was easily available. A decision to fund a program is different than a decision to choose a contractor, etc. From what I saw, the misdeeds occurred primarily in contractor and program selection, and secondarily in lack of oversight.

All governments are corrupt; the key -- as I'm sure you'd agree -- is to minimize it as much as possible. You'd argue (as I understand it) that the problem lies at the top where businesses hold sway over decisionmaking processes that ultimately benefit those businesses. I'd argue that the problem lies in the selection of contractors and at lower levels. Personally, were I a corrupt business, that's where I'd want to be. Our government is big and always spending, regardless of which party holds sway. It's easy for a business to run below the radar and score giant contracts. Thus, when I see wrong spending decisions, I do not assume that misdeeds run straight to the chief.

burmashave · « **Reply #87 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:37:49 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Ernie on January 04, 2007, 08:23:34 PM

Rev Shave, you are right, of course. It's just that no one cares right now. The RightWing has been very smug and that has inspired folks and made them feel safe. The Left Wing just critisizes and beats it's chest. Folks began to relize the Right Wing ws a bunch of jerks, so they're voting for the Left Wingers. Only problem is, the Lefties are going to be in deep when everybody figures out they haven't any idea of the difference betweeen their butts and their elbows. John Kerry is just the tip of the iceberg.

Sadly, I have to agree with much of what you say. I know I'm going to get assailed for this, but I'll say it anyway. Things are not as bad as they seem in the moment. When you look around the world, the United States has done a decent job of muddling along.

Klark Kent · « **Reply #88 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:41:14 PM »

nobody is saying that the united teste has muddled through poorly. but who do you think defends the concepts that really make the country great. it is not the nixons and mccarthys it is the abbie hoffmans and cindy shehans, the ed murrows and the lenny bruces, the duke brothers not boss hog.

i love this country. that is why i am going to do what i can to stop ignorant a$$holes from ruinning it.
-KK

kghost · « **Reply #89 on:** January 04, 2007, 09:02:44 PM »

I'm an immigrant.

Lived in South America. Lived in Canada.

Been all over Europe. Been to Australia (in case terry comments), Been lots of places in Africa etc.

U.S.A is still the second best place to live. Texas is first.

burmashave · « **Reply #90 on:** January 04, 2007, 09:07:33 PM »

Quote from: Klark Kent on January 04, 2007, 08:41:14 PM

nobody is saying that the united teste has muddled through poorly. but who do you think defends the concepts that really make the country great. it is not the nixons and mccarthys it is the abbie hoffmans and cindy shehans, the ed murrows and the lenny bruces, the duke brothers not boss hog.

i love this country. that is why i am going to do what i can to stop ignorant a$$holes from ruinning it.
-KK

Definitely not Boss Hog. And I'm with you.

I'll take a Norman Borlaug over the above characters anytime. A guy who saves over a billion people from starving is a guy to emulate. More info. and interviews with Penn Gillette here.

Rsnip988 · « **Reply #91 on:** January 04, 2007, 09:46:51 PM »

wow i go away and missed a whole page,

Fundamentalism of any type is bad as EC stated, people should never just follow a party or religious group just because of what they are told they need to research and think for themselves

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #92 on:** January 04, 2007, 10:36:46 PM »

Quote from: kghost on January 04, 2007, 09:02:44 PM

I'm an immigrant.

Lived in South America. Lived in Canada.

Been all over Europe. Been to Australia (in case terry comments), Been lots of places in Africa etc.

U.S.A is still the second best place to live. Texas is first.

Ha ha, I don't think one flying visit to Oz qualifies you as an authority on my country Tim, but I think Texas sounds like a nice place to live too. Cheers, Terry.

kghost · « **Reply #93 on:** January 04, 2007, 10:50:25 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 04, 2007, 10:36:46 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 04, 2007, 09:02:44 PM
I'm an immigrant.

Lived in South America. Lived in Canada.

Been all over Europe. Been to Australia (in case terry comments), Been lots of places in Africa etc.

U.S.A is still the second best place to live. Texas is first.

Ha ha, I don't think one flying visit to Oz qualifies you as an authority on my country Tim, but I think Texas sounds like a nice place to live too. Cheers, Terry.

LoL terry,,,its one more visit then you have here aint it?

Personally I think the news media globally really misses the boat when reporting on America.

The sensational and controversial makes the cut but anything good gets dropped. Course thats what attracts viewers.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #94 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:02:22 PM »

Quote from: kghost on January 04, 2007, 10:50:25 PM

LoL terry,,,its one more visit then you have here aint it?

Yeah Tim, just tell us again, how long were you "in country" mate? Geez, I know that you Argentinian-Texans are known to boast somewhat, but to intimate to the folks here that you're something of an expert after one short trip is a little to much BS for even me to swallow, and that's saying something!

Weren't you just dropping off a plane or something then going straight home again? Geez, that must qualify you as part-Australian now too? Far-Canal!

kghost · « **Reply #95 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:14:52 PM »

Hey Terry hate to break it to you mate...your not the only person I know in Ozzieland.

Some of them even have better legs.

I was there in August for a shade under two weeks. I'll grant you I only saw Brisbane and the Gold coast and such (Gold coast being populated by more orientals than actual australians).

I did not think it was a bad place. In fact I quite liked it and had a smashing time. Just wouldn't trade you for the USA.

Your of course welcome to disagree. But I have managed to make it to both places ( and a few others along the way).

You have a standing invitation any time you wanna come have a visit. I'll fix ya up with a bed and a bike to ride.

Let me know when your coming I'll stock up the booze.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #96 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:29:41 PM »

Quote from: kghost on January 04, 2007, 11:14:52 PM

Hey Terry hate to break it to you mate...your not the only person I know in Ozzieland.

Some of them even have better legs.

I was there in August for a shade under two weeks. I'll grant you I only saw Brisbane and the Gold coast and such (Gold coast being populated by more orientals than actual australians).

I did not think it was a bad place. In fact I quite liked it and had a smashing time. Just wouldn't trade you for the USA.

Your of course welcome to disagree. But I have managed to make it to both places ( and a few others along the way).

You have a standing invitation any time you wanna come have a visit. I'll fix ya up with a bed and a bike to ride.

Let me know when your coming I'll stock up the booze.

Yeah, two weeks in "Tourist Town" will do it I guess Tim, I take it all back mate, you're an expert, all right...................

kghost · « **Reply #97 on:** January 04, 2007, 11:44:45 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 04, 2007, 11:29:41 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 04, 2007, 11:14:52 PM
Hey Terry hate to break it to you mate...your not the only person I know in Ozzieland.

Some of them even have better legs.

I was there in August for a shade under two weeks. I'll grant you I only saw Brisbane and the Gold coast and such (Gold coast being populated by more orientals than actual australians).

I did not think it was a bad place. In fact I quite liked it and had a smashing time. Just wouldn't trade you for the USA.

Your of course welcome to disagree. But I have managed to make it to both places ( and a few others along the way).

You have a standing invitation any time you wanna come have a visit. I'll fix ya up with a bed and a bike to ride.

Let me know when your coming I'll stock up the booze.

Yeah, two weeks in "Tourist Town" will do it I guess Tim, I take it all back mate, you're an expert, all right...................

I notice your artful dodge of how many times you've visited the USA (your shopping paradise so it seems)

I'm sure being army and a paratrooper your familiar with "feet on the ground" which there is no substitute for......

Brisbane? Tourist town? Doug MacArthur musta thought it had charm as he had his headquarters there in WWII. Yes I know...The second world war another shocking example of the USA as the worlds policemen.

Cept that time I don't recall ever hearing an Ozzie complain about

Come at least have a look before you critique. My Home is always open to ya.

burmashave · « **Reply #98 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:03:12 AM »

Oh no, EC (a.k.a. The Pot Stirrer Guy), the soup has gone cold.

Here are some ideas that might warm the stew again:

[li]O.J. Simpson did not land on the moon.[/li]
[li]Saddam Hussein: Loving father and grandfather.[/li]
[li]George Bush: Narrowly edged out by a fence post on an intelligence test.[/li]
[li]It was actually the French Resistance that won WWII in the Pacific theater (theatre).[/li]
[li]Saddam may have used grenades as fishing "lures;" however, he -- unlike Dick Cheney -- never tossed one at a fellow fisherman.[/li]
[li]Which of Kerry's victims suffered more: innocent Vietnamese or innocent Americans?[/li]
[li]Are Chinese communists stealing every third sock in an effort to dominate the world textile market?[/li]
[li]Burmashave: Ranter Supreme or Supreme Ranter?[/li]
[li]Can John Kerry revive his political prospects by joining Al Gore in the search for inconvenient icebergs?[/li]
[li]Poll: More lovable at a distance -- Terry or Koala Bears?[/li]
[li]How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center, and could George Bush count that high?[/li]
[li]Democratic Congressmen were fooled by pre-war intelligence involving Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez.[/li]
[li]Saddam Hussein would have been found innocent except for the rigged jury recount in Florida.[/li]
[/list]
To paraphrase Brian Setzer: Stir it up and go!

Uncle Ernie · « **Reply #99 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:11:25 AM »

This is a true classic right here. No one in the USA has a head as fat as a Texan. Yeah- I know from experience. They are a country surrounded by Mexico on one side and the USA on the other. And this fat head is bouncing his fat head off of the nation of Fat Heads- a citizen of Australia. You two couldn't ride motorcycles side by side across the Golden Gate Bridge because your heads would get caught in the cables.

Mr Ghost, are chinamen referred to as orientals now?

News:

Author Topic: Saddam Hussein - hanging is BS (Read 12952 times)