Topic: Shinko 230 tire feedback

[Flyin900]

I have heard good reviews on the Shinko products with the only negative being the rubber tends to wear quite quickly compared to a premium brand tire.

Since I have quite a few vintage bikes my biggest issue is the premium tires don't wear out since each bike only gets a few thousand kilometers use each year. So after 3-4 years I replace the tires as a rule of thumb and my personal belief on tire age, so the used premium tires have minimal wear.

The Shinko's are reasonably priced and get good reviews, so if they wear quicker that isn't an issue for me and probably a bonus that they are being discarded at the right time and usage wear on the tire.

Thoughts and experience with the Shinko brand please.

[evinrude7]

Flyin, I have a 712 on the front. Granted I'm not scraping my pegs but I take corners w a fair amount of gusto and I'm happy w it. Looking forward to putting one on the back soon.

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[NewBoots]

 :)If you keep the air pressure up on the rear tire,40lb it will last longer.
Bucky

[Stev-o]

If you keep the air pressure up on the rear tire,40lb it will last longer.

What?!   Where did you get this info from??

[Yamahawk]

I have heard good reviews on the Shinko products with the only negative being the rubber tends to wear quite quickly compared to a premium brand tire.

Since I have quite a few vintage bikes my biggest issue is the premium tires don't wear out since each bike only gets a few thousand kilometers use each year. So after 3-4 years I replace the tires as a rule of thumb and my personal belief on tire age, so the used premium tires have minimal wear.

The Shinko's are reasonably priced and get good reviews, so if they wear quicker that isn't an issue for me and probably a bonus that they are being discarded at the right time and usage wear on the tire.

Thoughts and experience with the Shinko brand please.

Had some 712's on a 82 XZ550 Vision, and they held up really well. 100/90-18 and 110/90-18 front and rear. Had 5k miles on them when I sold the bike, and they still looked new. I would not hesitate to say the front would have gone 12k miles, and the rear would have got 8k on the Vision. The first 1k miles was at the race track, did my Novice and Race course on them, and a couple races. Had balled up rubber all over the edges of the tires...
I am going to put a 100/90-19 on the front of my CB750K1, and I am toying with a 120/90-17 Shinko 705 rear along with it. The bike has Dunlop D404's now, and I would walk around them for the 712's... expect to pay around $105 for the pair of 712's shipped to your door from Bike Bandit, or Chaparral Motorsports.
Charlie

[dave500]

I get 5-7000 kays on rears no matter what,fronts almost,i said almost double that,i care less for longevity but traction is what I like,i wouldn't touch a shinko with a pike pole.

[Flyin900]

The reviews state that the tires grip well in both wet and dry conditions and no tram lining on grooved or rough pavement.
Dave I am not sure if your saying no to these tires or that you like the klms you get from them?
The bike I will be trying them on first is 650 lbs wet, so a heavy bike and traction and handling are important to me for sure. Less so is longevity on the tire, since if I get 6-8 K kilometres or 5K miles from them I will be happy.
Living in the great white north the tires are $200 Canadian shipped to my door, so not the same deal as in the US, yet still close to half the price of a Metzler or Michelin brand.

[Yamahawk]

I get 5-7000 kays on rears no matter what,fronts almost,i said almost double that,i care less for longevity but traction is what I like,i wouldn't touch a shinko with a pike pole.

I think Dave is saying he would go for good handling in wet or dry, over cheap price, but hey, I found the Shinko 712 to be a performer, on the track and off. But I wouldn't touch them with a pike pole either, it's to be used on pike lol...
Yeah, my experience is 2 rear tires for every front, except for the Metzler ME33 Laser I had back in the '80's, it got 3 rears for the 29k miles it racked up on the front of the '81 Yamaha XV920RH.

The reviews state that the tires grip well in both wet and dry conditions and no tram lining on grooved or rough pavement.
Dave I am not sure if your saying no to these tires or that you like the klms you get from them?
The bike I will be trying them on first is 650 lbs wet, so a heavy bike and traction and handling are important to me for sure. Less so is longevity on the tire, since if I get 6-8 K kilometres or 5K miles from them I will be happy.
Living in the great white north the tires are $200 Canadian shipped to my door, so not the same deal as in the US, yet still close to half the price of a Metzler or Michelin brand.

This is most important. If the tire performs well on wet or dry pavement, I don't care how long they last. But more miles are better...One fellow said he had them on his Concours, and the lasted pretty well, and they are 670lb or more loaded up. Now, I tried a Shinko TourMaster 230 on the rear on my 1983 Yamaha Venture Royale, and after 4k miles it was wearing pretty fast, I estimated maybe 2k more miles on the tire when I picked up a scimitar shaped piece of steel about 4" long and retired it lol... But the tire itself was comfortable on the bike, and handled well. Just short life on a large, Heavy and fast bike.

Now, HERE'S the ultimate fun tire... I think Dave might need one of these...
https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/shinko-smoke-bomb-motorcycle-tire-blue/p/36490
Charlie

[spotty]

I've got a shinko 170/?/15 on the back of the vmax and its by far the best tyre I've had on the back of it, great cornering, grip and braking. I'm waiting for the radial Dunlop on the front to wear out so I can slap a stinko on there too
Can't comment on them on the CB as I have dual purpose tyres that I haven't even ridden on yet ( must get on with some stuff on that tomorrow)

[dave500]

great cornering on a vmax?come on mate don't bull#$%* me?last time I saw a vmax corner it was on a trailer!

[Yamahawk]

great cornering on a vmax?come on mate don't bull#$%* me?last time I saw a vmax corner it was on a trailer!

Bwaaahaha yeah the Vmax wasn't set up for the best cornering, but straight line they were awesome... that V-Boost stuff worked!(all it was is an extra manifold under the carbs that would open a butterfly valve at 6k rpm and feed each cylinder with two carbs... at the same time the cams were timed also, 50hp added right now!)  I know fellas who would take the VMax engines and slip them into the Venture sport touring machines, but they had to cut out the bottom of the stock air box on the Venture. Then you had a 150+ hp touring bike!
They used the Yamaha Venture 1200cc engines to build the VMax... BTW.
Charlie

[dave500]

vmax is like a v8 brick barbque,with less handling than a Harley v rod.

[Yamahawk]

vmax is like a v8 brick barbque,with less handling than a Harley v rod.

That's not saying much about the V-Rod lol... but the V4 engine the Vmax used was an excellent engine. I had 3 early Ventures, and for a touring bike, they handled way better than you would think. The Vmax would smoke the V-Rod straight line acceleration, though. The Vmax was like an Atlatl with a RPG attached... at 6k rpm, it exploded...although crude, it was effective and FUN. Now you could replace the 15" rim on the rear with the Venture 16" and gain a little height for cornering... but they just weren't designed for anything but a drag race.
Charlie

[dave500]

don't talk #$%* both are crap.

[Mr Freeze]

Shinkos are definitely a "stickier" tire which means then grip well but wear faster, of course that's fine considering the price.

[Yamahawk]

don't talk #$%* both are crap.

Hehe and opinions are like #$%*s, we both have one
Charlie

[dave500]

opinions?i put it twice,i think you got two holes.

[Yamahawk]

opinions?i put it twice,i think you got two holes.

And neither one is Holier than thou... lol
Charlie

[seanbarney41]

I used Stinko's on my cb750f3.  They sucked.  They would not warm up and stick in cooler weather(below 70 degrees F. air temperature) but worked good if it was hot out.  This made for lots of scary unpredictable slipping.  Unfortunately, they last a long time.  I could not wear the pos' out fast enough.

[spotty]

great cornering on a vmax?come on mate don't bull#$%* me?last time I saw a vmax corner it was on a trailer!

I was speaking relatively  in comparison to a stock Vmax, its years ahead but I also have progressive suspension at both ends, wider MX bars, radial front tyre and forks pushed an inch and a half thru the clamps. Also stupidly big R1/Busa brakes
So yes it still handles like a drunk greasy hippo but it #$%*s all over a stocker, has 125bhp and will out accelerate 99% of everything else on the roads and pull close to 150mph. That's why I bought it

I still love sohc750's and the are great fun to ride and I'm looking forward to getting out on the dirt with it but until I can afford a GenII vmax nothing will replace my Vmax as the greatest bike in the world...exactly the same as everyone else feels about their bike of choice whatever its failings or limitations

[Yamahawk]

great cornering on a vmax?come on mate don't bull#$%* me?last time I saw a vmax corner it was on a trailer!

I was speaking relatively  in comparison to a stock Vmax, its years ahead but I also have progressive suspension at both ends, wider MX bars, radial front tyre and forks pushed an inch and a half thru the clamps. Also stupidly big R1/Busa brakes
So yes it still handles like a drunk greasy hippo but it #$%*s all over a stocker, has 125bhp and will out accelerate 99% of everything else on the roads and pull close to 150mph. That's why I bought it

I still love sohc750's and the are great fun to ride and I'm looking forward to getting out on the dirt with it but until I can afford a GenII vmax nothing will replace my Vmax as the greatest bike in the world...exactly the same as everyone else feels about their bike of choice whatever its failings or limitations

Spotty,
 The original Vmax in 1985 had 150hp stock, that was unreal back then...they had to detune the later years for 'safety' lol...
 I always thought Yamaha missed the target with the Vmax motor, and should have slotted it into a frame like the 82-83 Yamaha XZ550 Vision V-Twin. Can you imagine that... A 150hp Sport touring machine like the Vision, only a V4 instead of a V-Twin, and call it...
The Double Vision... get Foreigner to endorse it lol.. I can hear it now... oooooh ooooh My Double Vision!
Now, the 1600cc version is even more of a warp speed straight line machine... and I am sure it gives you double vision when you twist the throttle and pin your eyeballs to the back of your head lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Charlie

[millla03]

I was hesitant of Shinkos at first given the price, but I am now trying a pair of 712's on my BMW. I personally haven't noticed a difference in handling between them and Avon Road Riders or Metezler Lazertecs, though I've never been accused of riding too aggressively. They don't track payment grooves or grated bridges like the "radial tread" front tires tend to.

Only have 2000 miles on them so can't comment on longevity, but no real noticeable wear so far. If the rear makes it past 5,000 miles I'm prolly going to stick with them. Hard to beat $50.00 US/tire, compared to $100+ for other brands. Change tires myself so no additional cost there.

[Flyin900]

Thanks guy's for the feedback!

I actually made a mistake on the Shinko model it is a #230; as the front tire is an odd size and only available in the Shinko 230 series for both front and back. I am going to give them a try too, as the ratings are all very good and I don't need longevity only good grip and handling.

[Yamahawk]

Thanks guy's for the feedback!

I actually made a mistake on the Shinko model it is a #230; as the front tire is an odd size and only available in the Shinko 230 series for both front and back. I am going to give them a try too, as the ratings are all very good and I don't need longevity only good grip and handling.

I have used the Shinko 230 Tourmaster on Yamaha Ventures, and it handled well, not the greatest mileage though, as it is a soft tire.
Charlie