Author Topic: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB  (Read 7232 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dave500

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,058
  • WHAT?no gravy?
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2018, 02:42:23 AM »
40k buys a couple of really good high tech new bikes man!this has all been done before,sure its good workmanship etc but seriously?

Offline RJ CB450

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 216
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2018, 08:01:13 AM »
40k buys a couple of really good high tech new bikes man!this has all been done before,sure its good workmanship etc but seriously?

Didnt even think about new bikes.  40k is a Motus :x
74 CB450 K7 Supersport, 82 CB650sc Nighthawk, 1982 CBX 1000, 2015 Tiger XCx.... And some ol minibike with a 5hp Briggs.

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 34,481
  • Central Texas
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2018, 04:17:54 PM »
40k buys a couple of really good high tech new bikes man!this has all been done before,sure its good workmanship etc but seriously?

Didnt even think about new bikes.  40k is a Motus :x
Bimota BB-3!

Kawasaki Ninja H2R!!!   300hp Supercharged!
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

Offline Junipero

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2018, 05:03:50 PM »
There is an old Aussie saying (probably a US equivalent),
"You can only polish a turd so much".


Ever see the Mythbusters episode where they actually polished a turd?  It can be done.  😊


1975 CB400F
2009 Triumph Bonneville SE
2011 BMW R1200RT

Offline przjohn

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 948
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2018, 06:06:57 PM »
I don’t get it, and by the response to the auction, neither does anyone else.
I like poetry, long walks on the beach, and poking at dead things with a stick.

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?

Offline millla03

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 111
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2018, 09:33:45 AM »
Hey at least it's a finished product. I'd much rather see this than a Craigslist half-baked cafe project that "just needs a little TLC". I don't get why you'd invest so much time and money to only put 50 miles on it and then try to sell. Strikes me more as something a person would build for themselves without planning to ever see a return on investment - I'm sure most of us are familiar with that idea  :D. Some cool parts on there for sure - that exhaust is neat. I'll hold my opinion on the price...

Edit: I just read the motorcycle classics article. Sounds like the owner isn't able to ride any more. Makes more sense on why it's for sale.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 09:38:31 AM by millla03 »
Luke

72 Honda CB750 K2
78 BMW R100/7
83 Honda Nighthawk 650
07 Honda Rebel 250

Offline slikwilli420

  • Master of Disaster
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,357
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2018, 10:17:15 AM »
I like how it "performs like a late model 1000cc bike". No friend, no it doesn't.
All you gotta do is do what you gotta do.

Vintage Speed Parts Mashup: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133638.0
Rickman CR Parts Kit Refresh: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,154837.0.html
AHRMA CB750 Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158461.0.html
AHRMA Superbike Heavyweight Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173120.0.html
'76F CB750 Patina Redemption: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,174871.0.html

Offline RJ CB450

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 216
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2018, 03:58:26 PM »
I like how it "performs like a late model 1000cc bike". No friend, no it doesn't.

XD  Is that actually in the ad?  Now imagining it hopping wheelies on interstate.
74 CB450 K7 Supersport, 82 CB650sc Nighthawk, 1982 CBX 1000, 2015 Tiger XCx.... And some ol minibike with a 5hp Briggs.

Offline dave500

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,058
  • WHAT?no gravy?
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2018, 12:20:56 AM »
sub 11 quarters?

Offline Bodi

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,703
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2018, 05:59:18 PM »
I somehow doubt he's tried a modern litre sportbike. I did, and it scared the hell out of me. No CB750 @866 can compare in power, handling, or braking. Period.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,050
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2018, 07:25:55 PM »
Robbies 736 did 10.0 in the quarter mile..
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline BobR

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 354
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2018, 07:33:11 PM »
 A bit harsh here. Yeah its over priced, yeah it definitely isn't my cup of tea visually, but it looks well done. If a member here did it ,it would most likely be getting high praise. Bob
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. Albert Einstein
 CB750K4(F2 engine)

Offline Airborne 82nd

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 828
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2018, 07:51:23 PM »
Its a cubic cash build..
 Higher on cash than talent, it appears to me.
 Take the headlights for example. . Is it an improvement performance wise ?  Maybe.
 Does it suit the theme or the rest of the bike, does it help the flow ? Not for me it doesnt..
 It', the headlights and signals....look more like spending cash than carefully selected  planning..

 See what I did..  trying to be nice..
I'm with you Honda did the headlights think Ruckus ;D ;D

Offline PeWe

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,787
  • Bike almost back to the 70's 2015
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2018, 01:19:22 AM »
I like how it "performs like a late model 1000cc bike". No friend, no it doesn't.
My bike could keep the pace with the late model 1000cc bikes. 836, ported head w 34mm in valves, cam.  This was 1984 and the other 1000cc bikes were Kawasaki 1000J/R with reduced power due to an agreement Bike industry- Government, max 100 crank hp.

Things changed when Kawasaki GPZ900 arrived a year later. Suzuki GSX-R750 flew away... the bigger brother GSX-R1100 like a space ship.
Many modern 1000cc bikes have over 150 crank hp.

A CB750 need heavy mods to reach 100rwhp, 115-120? crank hp. 
Ask Mike for a billet block with 71-72mm pistons, stage 4 head, good cam, APE ultra crank w Carillo rods. HD chains inside, undercutted gears, lightened alternator, new cush rubbers in primary hub, tougher clutch springs. Good carbs as Mikuni TMR32 ( RS34 cost less) Extra case breather
Good exhaust to reach 100 rwhp. (Max 93 with Yamiya no numbers 4-4) This list seems very familiar for me and the mentioned power number. I can add a dyno pic too ;)

My bike will be passed by a modern 1000cc bike (smaller displacements too). But they have to twist more than they thought ;) 1000cc power feels MUCH more than 836cc. Torque make a difference.

836 need good tuning to reach 85rwhp.
For around $20.000 no problem to build a better performing bike than this overadvertized bike
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 01:21:09 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

Offline robvangulik

  • Honda Fourever
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,418
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2018, 05:49:44 AM »
My "modern"? 1987 CBR1000F last year made 123 rear wheel hp on the dyno and has a topspeed of just over 270 kph on GPS  ;D

Offline RJ CB450

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 216
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2018, 07:01:41 AM »
My "modern"? 1987 CBR1000F last year made 123 rear wheel hp on the dyno and has a topspeed of just over 270 kph on GPS  ;D

CBX run out of gear at 150 mph which is 250 kph approx.

Faster you go, the more important aerodynamics is.  No fairing on that, no outrunning even the first stock 1000s.
74 CB450 K7 Supersport, 82 CB650sc Nighthawk, 1982 CBX 1000, 2015 Tiger XCx.... And some ol minibike with a 5hp Briggs.

Offline Yamahawk

  • IGOR!Come here IGOR! ...Yesss
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,677
  • 1971 Honda CB750 Four K1
    • Kingdom Run Biker Church and Outreach
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2018, 07:06:55 PM »
My "modern"? 1987 CBR1000F last year made 123 rear wheel hp on the dyno and has a topspeed of just over 270 kph on GPS  ;D

CBX run out of gear at 150 mph which is 250 kph approx.

Faster you go, the more important aerodynamics is.  No fairing on that, no outrunning even the first stock 1000s.

Back in 1950, Rollie Free broke 150mph and the only fairing he had was a speedo and a bathing cap lol... on a Vincent Black Shadow.


Charlie
1971 CB750K1 (newest bike), 1996 Royal Enfield 500 Bullet (therapy bike), 1981 Yamaha XV920RH, 2006 Kawasaki Concours (retirement bike), 1975 Yamaha RD350 (race bike), 1989 Honda VTR250 Interceptor (race bike), 1986 Kawasaki EX250 Ninja (race bike in progress), 1985 Honda Elite CH250, 1973 Yamaha GT1 80cc, 1974 Yamaha DT360 project bike.

The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke

All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28

Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?

Offline RJ CB450

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 216
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2018, 09:36:49 AM »
Um....  A purpose built salt flat speed racer lying over the fender isnt an apt comparison. Also consider I said ran out of gear.  I doubt the bike in the article is final drive ratio for top speed, and the wider 4, no level of planking is going to get you that fast with cylinders sticking  out either side.

Is like saying the original Hemi Charger Daytona is a good example that 200 mph is easy.  I mean... They did it in the 60s on nascar, so why can't an Accord?

Also... A black shadow is a poor comparison since they were as fast as the 750s, stock per stock.  Ergo, the bike in the discussion here if you are planking with no lights and seats, and aero deflectors on the low might be able to keep up with stock bikes?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2018, 09:40:55 AM by RJ CB450 »
74 CB450 K7 Supersport, 82 CB650sc Nighthawk, 1982 CBX 1000, 2015 Tiger XCx.... And some ol minibike with a 5hp Briggs.

Offline Ace Blackwell

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • 1977 CB550F - Resurrection in progress
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2018, 09:54:40 AM »
Price a side, the bike looks good, if you're into that kind of thing, but I don't see personalizing a bike and then selling.  I see that here locally, all be it a lot cheaper.  You will see a cool looking bike posted for sale or in a parking lot for sale with a very distinct repaint and/or fabrication setup.  Even if the price is right and the bikes looks good, who wants to drive around town on bike already associated with another rider.   "Hey whose that dude on John's bike?"  or "Nice bike, I was with John when he had that painted a few years back" .   

Not me anyways.   
1977 CB550F Work in Progress

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,050
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2018, 10:40:58 AM »
If you already know you cant build one, then you have to buy one.
 Pay more to be different it's the way it goes..
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline beemerbum

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,068
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2018, 07:46:27 PM »
As of this evening there are zero bids for this bike on flea-bay. Sort of sums it up

Offline Yamahawk

  • IGOR!Come here IGOR! ...Yesss
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,677
  • 1971 Honda CB750 Four K1
    • Kingdom Run Biker Church and Outreach
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2018, 03:56:53 AM »
Um....  A purpose built salt flat speed racer lying over the fender isnt an apt comparison. Also consider I said ran out of gear.  I doubt the bike in the article is final drive ratio for top speed, and the wider 4, no level of planking is going to get you that fast with cylinders sticking  out either side.

Is like saying the original Hemi Charger Daytona is a good example that 200 mph is easy.  I mean... They did it in the 60s on nascar, so why can't an Accord?

Also... A black shadow is a poor comparison since they were as fast as the 750s, stock per stock.  Ergo, the bike in the discussion here if you are planking with no lights and seats, and aero deflectors on the low might be able to keep up with stock bikes?
Um... purpose built? Have you actually Looked at that bike? No Fairing.. and the seat was removed. That's about it. 1940's technology, and NO safety gear, unless you count that rubber bathing cap lol. Using a Daytona Charger in comparison to that Vincent is stretching things a bit... but hey, The World's Fastest Indian was a purpose built racer, and Burt hand-cast his own pistons in his shed lol... Now comparing Burt's 200mph top speed is quite an accomplishment for a homeboy from Australia with an olde Indian. Even comparing THAT to a Daytona Charger is a little bit unfair, as Burt made ALL his stuff. Just sayin'...
Charlie
1971 CB750K1 (newest bike), 1996 Royal Enfield 500 Bullet (therapy bike), 1981 Yamaha XV920RH, 2006 Kawasaki Concours (retirement bike), 1975 Yamaha RD350 (race bike), 1989 Honda VTR250 Interceptor (race bike), 1986 Kawasaki EX250 Ninja (race bike in progress), 1985 Honda Elite CH250, 1973 Yamaha GT1 80cc, 1974 Yamaha DT360 project bike.

The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke

All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28

Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?

Offline dave500

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,058
  • WHAT?no gravy?
Re: I can believe this guy needs the $40K for this CB
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2018, 01:38:53 PM »
that home boy was from New Zealand.