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Offline timtune

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Twin disc conversion question
« on: April 16, 2023, 04:46:02 PM »
Adding a second disc to a CB 750 of about 73-74. I have extra fork legs with "mirror image" mounting of brake mounting arm.
My question is the speedo driver. It's too big with the second disc installed. I've seen where they were turned it down and then read about using a CB550 drive.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2023, 05:20:45 PM »
I am getting fed up of this myth, the 500/550 drive is exactly the same as the 750 drive, you need a hub with the two flats and a very early cb750 drive or you need a lathe and some acurate machining
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2023, 05:23:39 PM »
Look in the documents section under c500 twin disc conversion
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2023, 07:03:39 AM »
I used this setup.
Longer bolts and speedo gear.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363581717279?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FAFPPfGgRUK&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=XgCEg0CPSya&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Then you need to add spacers under right caliper to make it to be parallel to brake disc.

My upper 2 M6 have 5mm distance + fender bracket.


Lower bolt has 5mm distance + M8 washer.


Closer to lower spacer + washer



I see now that my last 240km ride a few days ago (Saturday) made it dirty! ;)



This wheel has the later hub without 2x milling flat on right side. K0 part will not fit then.

I think this hub can use the K0 speedo gear.


The bolt on gear will fit all. You need to drill for M4 tap when centered wich need measure twice before punching, drilling tapping.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2023, 07:35:53 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2023, 09:17:06 AM »
Yamiya sells the parts you need.
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2023, 10:10:35 AM »
It was the Yamiya K0 version I meant.
https://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=246_251_184_87&products_id=373
I have one I ordered before just for sure.
Their longer bolts for dual discs on the short side with very thin nuts.
Replaced them with Honda stock for dial discs.

CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2023, 11:44:51 AM »
That Yamiya part looks like it needs the two flats on the hub
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2023, 09:03:40 PM »
That Yamiya part looks like it needs the two flats on the hub
Yes it does.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2023, 10:59:02 AM »
I have a lathe. It's more than turning it down though , isn't it? Will I need to refabricate the tabs?

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2023, 01:59:56 PM »
The tabs wont work, you will have to turn it so it is a flat disc the fits tightly inside the disc carrier then drill it and also drill and tap the hub to fix it
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2026, 03:07:52 AM »
Hi PeWe
I see in picture no. 4 that you managed to get the bleed nipple in the front hole on the right side as well. How did you manage this?
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2026, 03:32:17 AM »
I ordered the right side caliper from Yamiya.
It was "cheaper" back then. ;D
I'm sure people here know how to remove it and put it back again without harming it.

I saw somewhere that small thing was for sale. Maybe Yamiya750.com
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2026, 05:00:19 AM »
I have all the stuff here and have started assembling it all. In other words, it should be possible to unscrew the cone and change places. Yes, there are challenges in life and this is another one.

I have seen nice pictures on your conversion in another tread "How to make your CB750 stop like a modern bike" back in may 2016. Reply #52. Those pictures are telling me allot. Thanks.

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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2026, 06:50:58 AM »
I had an extra left side caliper and I tried to move the bleed nipple to the other port. It was corroded in or stuck in some way, no luck. I got a Yamiya caliper for the right side along with the Monel pipes to hook them up. Nice thing about the Monel is it doesn't really corrode much, it just gets a little darker. Very subtle. I can't remember how I got the speedo drive to go on but I don't recall that it was difficult, I guess I'll take a look at it to refresh my feeble memory.
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2026, 06:55:35 AM »
I had an extra left side caliper and I tried to move the bleed nipple to the other port. It was corroded in or stuck in some way, no luck. I got a Yamiya caliper for the right side along with the Monel pipes to hook them up. Nice thing about the Monel is it doesn't really corrode much, it just gets a little darker. Very subtle. I can't remember how I got the speedo drive to go on but I don't recall that it was difficult, I guess I'll take a look at it to refresh my feeble memory.
What is  "Monel pipes"?
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
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1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
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Re: Twin disc conversion question
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2026, 10:03:13 AM »
More often called Kunifer, as the name suggests a copper/nivkel alloy easy to flare and easy to bend without kinking and special tools
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