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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #100 on: December 11, 2024, 04:44:39 AM »
The polishing and chrome plating wasn't that great to begin with on the 400 header, especially on the back side. ;) Hey Chris, want a 400 project? ;D

Honda seemed to love saving money on chrome plating, top of the Cb500 fork tubes, not chromed? back of the Cb550F chainguard, really dull chrome, same for the back of the CB500 exhausts, dull chrome. They did this on numerous things, brake levers, gear levers, fork ears. It's a wonder they lasted as long as they did.

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #101 on: December 11, 2024, 07:09:18 AM »
It's a total basket case with no title. ;D

You make it sound so tempting but... maybe not!

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #102 on: December 11, 2024, 07:21:07 AM »
Finally got the header back and... it's about a C- on the chrome job.

Cleaned up the flanges.



Hey Chris...I may have some spare flanges in better condition, I'll search today.

Sorry to hear of the C- chrome job. 
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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2024, 08:25:50 AM »
Gave it a wash, here's how it sits now:



Just realized it looks like it has a ton of drips under it, but it's not from the bike (except maybe one or two drips of water, just washed it. I reused the crush washers for the exhaust and they seem to seal, but I have new ones on the way so I'm gonna take of the exhaust again, which will give me a chance to try to polish up the duller places on the header. When I get back from Seattle I should have enough components to fit the airbox, and I'll have a few more stock bolts to replace the allen ones that are left. Got a repop seat cover that looks stock as well.

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2024, 08:52:48 AM »
Nice looking bike CC....Is that the stock header and muffler?

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2024, 08:58:41 AM »
Nice looking bike CC....Is that the stock header and muffler?

Yep. The bike came with them, but there are a few other bits and pieces that weren't stock. I'm trying to get it back to as stock as I can.

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2024, 09:37:07 AM »
Just for info but the 2 throttle cables go through the hole in the speedo bracket and then round the other side of the headstock and then through the hole where the coils sit. I've found any other routing can either make the throttle stiff or cause it to rev when the bars are turned.

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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2024, 09:40:22 AM »
Just for info but the 2 throttle cables go through the hole in the speedo bracket and then round the other side of the headstock and then through the hole where the coils sit. I've found any other routing can either make the throttle stiff or cause it to rev when the bars are turned.

Gotcha, thanks. Haven't had any issue with high revs or sticking but maybe I'll reroute them next time I've got stuff apart...

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2024, 09:43:02 AM »
Have a look at the CB550F appendum and you can see all the cable and wiring harness routing on there. It makes a BIG difference when everything is routed correctly.

I'm always hesitant about saying stuff like this as some people seem to think I just sit at my PC and pick holes in their builds and nothing is farther from the truth.

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2025, 06:46:40 PM »
Came back from Seattle and had a few more things to work on. Replaced 3 out of the final 4 allen bolts -- the long ones on the stator cover and the bolt that attaches the brake arm to the drum. One bugger left, on the valve cover, inside and not visible, and I didn't have it on the bolts I pulled from the engine at Bob's. I think I have one that will work somewhere.

Replaced the seat cover... and about half of the mounting teeth broke off in the process. I used binder clips and epoxy and it looks fine, but it's a little askew. Hard to notice unless you're paying attention.

I'm gonna pull the header again to replace the exhaust seals and try to polish the dull parts on the chrome. Oddjob, you seem to know a little more about this than most (and I've only had bright, shiny chrome come back when I take stuff to the chrome shop), or anyone else -- I am assuming that regular chrome or metal polish isn't going to do the trick, but I would need some light (or medium?) polishing compound. IS that the case, or just regular chrome polish is fine? I am figuring I'll have to go at it for a while, wrapping a piece of cloth around the hard to get spots that are dull...

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #110 on: January 06, 2025, 02:52:12 AM »
I've never worked at a chroming place but I do talk to them a lot, mainly because I do a lot of their prep for them and that surprises them and they seem to take a interest in what I'm doing and how I'm doing it. So I have learned a few things from them that others may not know. First thing I learned was that chrome is a yellow cake like powder and it's not the chrome which makes it shine, it's the nickel, nickel is the base coat and chrome is the lacquer, that's roughly how they explained it to me. The smoother the surface, the better the finish, so if they can polish it then it comes out much better than areas where they can't or don't want to polish it. Like the original 500 exhausts, really bright chrome on the outside, where you can see it, but much duller on the inside where you don't look. Same for brake pedals and lots of other things, polishing is expensive and time consuming so they try and avoid it whenever possible. That's why you have duller areas, it's because they couldn't get the polishing machines in there OR they could but it was bloody awkward or very time consuming and that makes it a lot more expensive to the customer. IMO if you try and buff it up you'll not get great results, you'll just reduce the layer of chrome on top of it. It's worth trying a small area and see if it improves the look but I'd not hold out to much hope TBH. You'll just have to live with it.

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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #111 on: January 06, 2025, 06:29:31 AM »
Don't show chrome shops polish the copper plate before the nickel plating? But the base before playing begins needs to be very smooth for best results as all the plating will magnify any defects it cannot fill...
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Re: Got rid of my 550K... and replaced it with a 550F and a 350F
« Reply #112 on: January 06, 2025, 06:42:53 AM »
Not as far as I know, the vids I have watched show parts coming out of the copper bath, rinsed off and then going straight into the nickel bath. It's the metal before the copper bath that gets the polish, if it doesn't or can't be done then the results reflect this, copper however can hide a great deal of surface corrosion for instance, so triple plating is far better than double plating in that respect. Shame mine only does double these days.