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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2024, 10:09:51 AM »
Some guys had the battery vent tube dripping on the chain! lol Some installed the clip backwards, some failed to seat the clip properly and some used incorrect links, and this little piggy went all the way home with a good installation. :)

Some of our older equipment at work had miles of 40,50,60 Diamond roller chain. Never once saw a master fail, nobody paid any attention to install direction either. Half links yep saw LOTS of those fail. one conveyor had hundreds 40 size chains that were about 12” worth of chain. preparing for rebuilding that one meant folks with nothing else to do would sit and break those lengths of chain their whole shift. We have one machine that uses #100 chain

Boy, do I remember those conveyors! :)  :(
And, yeah, half-links belong in things like ashtrays and museums.
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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2024, 10:29:06 AM »
The old pre unit Triumphs used half links but on primary chain if memory is correct
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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2024, 04:02:21 AM »
Some guys had the battery vent tube dripping on the chain! lol Some installed the clip backwards, some failed to seat the clip properly and some used incorrect links, and this little piggy went all the way home with a good installation. :)

Some of our older equipment at work had miles of 40,50,60 Diamond roller chain. Never once saw a master fail, nobody paid any attention to install direction either. Half links yep saw LOTS of those fail. one conveyor had hundreds 40 size chains that were about 12” worth of chain. preparing for rebuilding that one meant folks with nothing else to do would sit and break those lengths of chain their whole shift. We have one machine that uses #100 chain

Boy, do I remember those conveyors! :)  :(
And, yeah, half-links belong in things like ashtrays and museums.

Indeed, half links are mechanically unsound. But when you have a fixed shaft distance and worn sprockets you can get into a spot where they are better than the chain being so slack that it can wrap too far around a sprocket. Not much better but still marginally better LOL. Those big conveyors took a full pallet of roller chain and a full weekend for a half dozen techs to replace all chains. The sprockets most of them never got changed which we know is bad.

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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2024, 10:28:01 AM »
The sprockets most of them never got changed which we know is bad.

Boy, howdy! On dirt bikes, which was the worst-case scenario we saw in my shop (enduro racing) we saw new chains gone in 2 weekends of racing when the owners wouldn't change the sprockets.
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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2024, 04:11:15 PM »
Question:  When Honda delivered these bikes to dealerships, did the chains have master links with retaining clips?

The chain is finally back in my garage as a continuous chain.  Tomorrow I will install the chain and wheel, and will be able to verify this can be done without removing exhaust pipes.  Then comes the complete front brake rebuild.  Expect a report on both.
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Re: Chain Questions
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2024, 04:38:41 PM »
No, they had endless chains
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