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Offline Peterbylt

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Allmost accident and retribution
« on: March 25, 2007, 08:05:19 PM »
I was following an older Suzuki GS650 in reasonably heavy traffic when a small silver Toyota full of what appeared to be teenagers came speeding out of a strip mall without stopping almost clipping the bike. How the GS650 managed to avoid hitting the Toyota is a miracle. The bike locked up the rear brake and at one time had the bike almost completely sideways. I was already braking to try and avoid running him over when he went down. Somehow he straightened it out and got the bike under control.
 
I watched as two kids in the back seat of the Toyota turned around to look out the rear window and they were laughing.

At the next red light the the Suzuki pulled up next to the drivers window of the car. I watched in amazement as the bike driver took off his full face helmet and then gripping it by the chin guard smashed out the drivers window of the car, knocked a few dents in the roof and one in the door before the car finally ran the redlight almost getting hit by cross traffic. The Suzuki rider put his helmet back on and took a right turn.

As the bike rider was beating up the Toyota with his helmet I was cheering him on......

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2007, 08:13:18 PM »
Awfully hard not to sympathize.  Bet the idiots weren't laughing by the time they ran the light...
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2007, 09:09:19 PM »
Yes, hard not to sympathise. But...... how did the rider not know that the car was stolen, perhaps, before beating the crap out of it. And he now has to replace his helmet. For what? Did the kids learn anything; probably not.
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2007, 09:56:31 PM »
Well they might not have learned anything, but then they may have. And if nothing else, sometimes you just cant care about the other person and have to do it for yourself. If that happened to me, I would gladly pay for a new helmet!

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2007, 11:11:39 PM »
5 teenagers in an Acura, The little #$%* in the backseat thought he was funny when he threw a water balloon at me as I was leaning into A parking lot. Without missing a second I was on their rear bumper at the next traffic light, went to yank the f-er out of his seat and make a proper example out of him but the doors were locked,  I figured I would remove him via the window, well me hand broke before the window.  The only one looking at me was the #$%* in the back seat, I guess if a grizzly bear was about to eat me I might find it hard to take my eyes off of it, the rest of the pack was sitting there, eyes down like they were thinking "oh #$%*, if I look at him I'm next". Lets hope they learned a few lessons that day, don't throw things at guys on motorcycles they can catch up fast,  and you can't outrun a motorcycle in city traffic.
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2007, 02:15:58 AM »
I'm thinkin one of these ResQme devices might come in handy for geting to drivers through the glass.  You could cut their seat belt, too, to drag them out of the car window and detain them for the police.

http://www.lifewithease.com/lifehammer.html

However, once you attack a fleeing criminal you become the agressor and they are then justified in defending themselves.  If they feel their life is threatened, deadly force is considered reasonable.  Most cars can be used as a deadly weapon.

"Yes, officer I made a mistake but the crazy biker kept coming at me.  I had to run him over as I couldn't get away from him.  I called the police as soon as he was incapacitated.  I've got all these witnesses, too!"

How do you think the judge would rule?

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2007, 02:58:22 AM »

http://www.lifewithease.com/lifehammer.html


I'm a bit unsure about the pocket one, a designed for the job car thievery tool if ever I saw one :o
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2007, 03:00:02 AM »
This biker would have had a least one witness on his side. Me

I once drove up and kicked a bunch of dents into a car door at a traffic light after an aggressive driver looked at me first and then pulled into my lane running me into the brakedown lane on a bridge. If I had thought of the helmet trick I would have used that.
One of those telescoping police batons would have been nice to have.  

Although it gave me immense satisfaction, afterward I thought that all the driver of the car had to do was open and smash me with his car door and he could possibly have knocked the bike down.
There is always the possibility that he could have a gun.

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2007, 03:31:09 AM »
Now guys kids will be kids!!!!!!!!     Just let them have their fun!!!!!!!   Even if eventually they might get someone killed!!!!!!   Its all in just having FUN right???????





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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2007, 03:59:24 AM »
Now guys kids will be kids!!!!!!!!     Just let them have their fun!!!!!!!   Even if eventually they might get someone killed!!!!!!   Its all in just having FUN right???????





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Yeah right....until it happens to you.  Take action when it happens, and they may give it a second thought the next time.  Punks.  I'm wondering if the kids in the Toyota were driving mommy's car, and now have to explain the broken window and the dents in the roof.   :D

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2007, 04:55:17 AM »
I look at all this crap as total stupidity.  ???  It's kinda like a safety course.  If you don't want a burglar to rob your house, steal your car, etc...what do you do?  BE PREPARED!  You've got MANY things at your disposal for PREVENTING anything from happening in the 1st place!  Alarms, guard dogs, etc.  Now...I hear ya... Tom's crazy.  What's all this got to do with getting creamed on a bike?  Ok...  Try what I do.  Again ....it's called PREVENTION.  I have ALWAYS carried a .45 cal pellet pistol stuck in my belt on my backside in PLAIN VIEW.  Most punks are coming up from behind, and I've watched them as they get closer ...enuff to see the 'gun'.  I've also seen their faces as they speed on pass me.  No...I've never been stopped by a cop.  You all may not be able to get away with this where you live, but here in Okla they turn an eye.  If I ever do get stopped, I don't think I'll be ticketed because the 'gun' isn't 'Real'.
As I said..Your state/country may not allow this, but it's 'allowed' here. 
And... I gues I'd better throw this in too. ;) As ugly as I am ....yeah...c'mon Terry...I hear ya...ya g*odamed cute bird . :D  .... I don't exactly 'look' like one to be messed with.  I guess the way my bike is 'modified' also helps ...my...uh...er...'image'  ;D
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2007, 07:32:10 AM »
Carrying a real 45 cal is also an option.
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 08:17:58 AM »
I'm glad I live in Canada.
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2007, 08:24:51 AM »
At the next red light the the Suzuki pulled up next to the drivers window of the car. I watched in amazement as the bike driver took off his full face helmet and then gripping it by the chin guard smashed out the drivers window of the car, knocked a few dents in the roof and one in the door before the car finally ran the redlight almost getting hit by cross traffic. The Suzuki rider put his helmet back on and took a right turn.
That's a killer story, and a great way to deal with snot nosed kids & idiot drivers !
Stuff like that happenes all the time in the city. I have seen everything from people punching threw windows to my buddy Riff who likes to break off people's sideview mirrors and hand it to them (that's good times ;D).

Glad to hear u (& the other rider) both came out ok in the longrun...
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2007, 08:39:38 AM »
I think what a lot of it is this: bikers are tired of cagers not looking for us or doing things just because we are smaller and will look lout for them. I have seen many times where some car cut off a bike. My wife got run off the road by a kid in some car. Others stopped to help but he just kept going. This was after he was BEHIND her at a stop light, so he KNEW she was there. It is time people like this got what was coming to them. Cops do nothing even if they see it.  So do we stand by and let it happen, or do we do something about it? THere may be wrong ways to go about it, but these drivers need some kind of accountability.

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2007, 09:19:48 AM »
Be careful with the pistol.  In WI they will treat it like a real gun and lock you up.  The here cops don't want anyone but themselves packing.  >:(

I once saw an old man (60-65ish) take a wrench to some kids car after the kids swerved at him.  You could see the kid did it on purpose and thought it was funny.  I swear this kid was crying when the old man's buddy pulled the old man off this kids car.  Best form of "you had it coming" I have ever seen.

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2007, 09:29:08 AM »
I watched a biker build off with Billy Lane( a true bike builder by the way) and he had one of these in a holster on the side of his chopper and he calls it a "traffic cop" for just this purpouse!



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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2007, 09:40:46 AM »
I watched a biker build off with Billy Lane( a true bike builder by the way) and he had one of these in a holster on the side of his chopper and he calls it a "traffic cop" for just this purpouse!

That was pretty nifty...
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2007, 09:59:26 AM »
I think what a lot of it is this: bikers are tired of cagers not looking for us or doing things just because we are smaller and will look lout for them. I have seen many times where some car cut off a bike. My wife got run off the road by a kid in some car. Others stopped to help but he just kept going. This was after he was BEHIND her at a stop light, so he KNEW she was there. It is time people like this got what was coming to them. Cops do nothing even if they see it.  So do we stand by and let it happen, or do we do something about it? There may be wrong ways to go about it, but these drivers need some kind of accountability.


At last, something to agree about with Eldar.  ;D
I think the kids did learn something, if your going to mess with bikes you'd better be prepared for the consequences.
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2007, 01:36:19 PM »
I watched a biker build off with Billy Lane( a true bike builder by the way) and he had one of these in a holster on the side of his chopper and he calls it a "traffic cop" for just this purpouse!




Billy Lane is a true biker killer.

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2007, 03:23:21 PM »
I got your cute bird!    I was being a smarta$$ for people not want us to be to "aggressive".  Piss on the uncaring disrespectful pricks!  I've been cut off by accident and ignored it but when someone does it intentionally and thinks its funny we will go rounds. 
The next person they F with might be a newby that gets hurt or dead.



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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2007, 03:29:50 PM »
I guess if what happened in the original post happened to me, I would be ticked-off myself. Remember though, what they did would be considered a traffic misdemeanor. Most of what has been posted so far would fall under felonious assault. Is it worth doing some time over? ???
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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2007, 03:33:08 PM »
New Full-Face helmet:  $350

Making bail for aggravated assault: $2500

Getting your bike out of the impound yard: $500

Making some punk kids sh*t their pants while you wail on their car:  Priceless...

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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2007, 03:37:58 PM »
New Full-Face helmet:  $350

Making bail for aggravated assault: $2500

Getting your bike out of the impound yard: $500

Making some punk kids sh*t their pants while you wail on their car:  Priceless...

 ;D ;D ;D
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Rather all that than have 6 of my friends carrying me to a hole in the ground for a funny joke.



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Re: Allmost accident and retribution
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2007, 03:39:42 PM »
I guess if what happened in the original post happened to me, I would be ticked-off myself. Remember though, what they did would be considered a traffic misdemeanor. Most of what has been posted so far would fall under felonious assault. Is it worth doing some time over? ???

Definitely not worth getting a felony conviction over, but it's still fun to dream of the things I wish I could do to some of these chumps! ;D ;D