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Oil behind gear shifter cover
« on: April 07, 2025, 10:41:38 AM »
Removed this cover yesterday on 750K5 and a few ounces of engine oil ran out. Is this typical or is a seal leaking? There’s never been any signs of oil leaking anywhere except an occasional drip at neutral switch and oil consumption has always been normal, ie very little.
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2025, 10:50:51 AM »
It's normal. ;D
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2025, 10:51:42 AM »
That's normal. The scavenge system under the pump usually has about 1"-1.5" oil depth sitting in the sump. That puts it about 5 ounces above the bottom edge of the shifter cover.
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2025, 10:53:40 AM »
Thanks for the quick replies, guys. Thought it might be normal and so good to know it is.
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1975 cb750K
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2025, 10:57:23 AM »
BTW, there's also oil behind the alternator cover, in case you remove it too. ;)
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2025, 11:53:08 AM »
No oil behind that cover is a problem.
If the covers, alternator cover included need to be taken off, lean bike to the right against a wall.

Change the oil seal for shifter can be done without taking off the cover.
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2025, 01:52:47 PM »
  I need to swap out a sprocket seal, does the wood screw trick work there?
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2025, 08:20:18 PM »
  I need to swap out a sprocket seal, does the wood screw trick work there?

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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2025, 09:40:17 PM »
  I need to swap out a sprocket seal, does the wood screw trick work there?
That one requires some finesse, in my experience. I've done it successfully 1 time, and not so good 2 more times.
What I discovered was: there are some engines that have a slightly-flanged seal in the final-drive. Those were the trouble ones. I got worried enough about the result after removing those 2 that I pulled the engine to do it over.

The 1st time I tried, not successful: it bad a (barely) flanged seal, which I have seen in some seal kits, too. My own K2 has one of those after its last rebuild in 2013.
The 2nd time I was successful: it was on a 750K4 (around 2015).
The 3rd time I wasn't so lucky, as someone had replaced the seal before me and glued it in, but good, using the old-time FelCoBond gasket adhesive. You can't miss that stuff: it looks like Pliobond when cured, and grips like it was welded, or something? This one was recently, because I still feel the sting.

Is there a special trick I'm missing about this one?
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2025, 06:08:11 AM »
Mmmm…. I’ve only done my cb750K3 on the bike and had no issue I recall. “Installed” three dry wall screws and then used a small pry bar under them, levering off the centre shaft.
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Re: Oil behind gear shifter cover
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2025, 07:38:31 AM »
Not sure why a sealant would be needed there.
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