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Offline Jonesy

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Another plug cap question....
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:23:03 PM »
With some of the posts about plug caps lately, I was wondering if we should just go ahead and switch to 0Ohm caps. Someone at work was telling me about how older bikes (4 Cylinder Hondas in particular) used to wreak havok with the older (70's vintage) FM radios. With all the digital (and now satellite) systems out there now, are resistor plug caps even needed anymore? True, the more difference between the primary and secondary windings, the hotter the spark, but I thought that was only related to the actual number of windings in the coils, not the peripheral parts like the caps.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Another plug cap question....
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 08:50:24 PM »
The RF interference affects AM radios, not FM. But it doesn't much matter - the resistor actually gives a better spark as well; the spark lasts longer. With the dual fire coil system we have, you can screw the ignition up by using too high a resistor or adding resistor plugs to resistor caps because there are 2 plugs and 2 caps on each coil... 5K caps and non-resistor plugs work nicely.

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Re: Another plug cap question....
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 08:55:03 PM »
That's kinda what I thought. The person said FM radio, and I didn't know any better, since although I was born in the 70's, I was too young to care about radio!

It's been said before in here and I'll say it again: "I guess the Honda (or in this case Tokyo Electric Corp.) engineers actually did know what they were doing!" :D
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Re: Another plug cap question....
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2005, 12:10:57 AM »
It's not just AM radio but broadcast television, too.  Since the ignition wires aren't sheilded, the voltage and current spikes on them cause radiated interference distributed into the airwaves.  Given a points type ignition, when the points open, the coils dump their stored energy into the wires and spark plugs.  The voltage only rises until there is sufficient voltage for the spark to jump the gaps of the plugs.  The inline resistors soften the inductive spike on the wires, delay and stretch the current surge.  For the plugs, it increases the duration of the spark.  For RFI, it lowers broadcast frequency.  This is important because, generally speaking, receiver sensitivy is more acute as the intended reception frequency increases.

It's interesting to note that the coils have a theoretical peak voltage capability that is never(or very seldom) fully achieved, because the plugs fire when there is enough voltage to bridge the gap.  And, this stops further voltage build up in the coil from the collapsing field.

Probably more than you wanted to know.
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