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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2008, 08:10:57 AM »
Go over the basics and they fire right up.

My K2 CB750 (former basket case) is nothing short of amazing. I've rode 150 to 200 miles a day all summer long doing my daily Zen... no kidding, ride is all I did this summer. From the dead this new life bike has blown a fuse, required a chain adjustment, several oil changes and that's it (I have Hondaman's ignition). The engine and nearly every part are original save batt, cables, grips and so forth. The trusty CB750 has shown this retired guy one of the best summers ever. I'm now fixing to pack her south on a trailer for the winter and continue the fun in AZ shortly. 34,000 miles.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2008, 03:32:46 PM »
When ever i hear honda i think of this advert


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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2008, 03:44:19 PM »
Never saw that one before, very cool. Rube Goldberg, eat your heart out. ;D
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2008, 04:09:28 PM »
Folks usually try and discredit things that are better than what they have but don't want to admit it because they and all their friends own the same POS and pretend it's realiable. ( you know who iam talking about)  ;)
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2008, 04:17:27 PM »
Mine has never let me down......yet. I do see several newer Harleys on the side of the road being kicked endlessly by sweaty cursing dudes. IMO if you maintain the bikes in a timely manner w/quality parts they are as dependable as newer bikes. They just require a little more attention like any other high maintenance mistress. Who are these "people"?

Harleys haven't had kick starters since like 1983 or 4

I had a 1988 Sporster, MUCH more reliable than my 1985 V65 Sabre.  That was one very expensive piece of junk..

But I like my 78 750...now that it works...[thanks to you guys].   
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2008, 04:56:01 PM »
They must know my mechanic.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2008, 05:20:56 PM »
Yea, I hear some guys have a half a dozen parts bikes that keep them going, don`t cha know. 

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2008, 05:27:27 PM »
Best.

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2008, 05:30:27 PM »
Yea the parts bikes are cheaper than the broke dik mechanic.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2008, 05:19:36 AM »
I have been riding sense 1966 when I bought a new CB150 Dream.  Sense then I have owned dozens of bikes, both new and old, all brands and the only time I ever was left stranded was on an old Kawasaki.  The main wire had croaded in a connector and lost all electrical.  I think all of them make a very good product.

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2008, 06:24:01 AM »
My son (who knows next to nothing about MCs) told me that Hondas are unreliable.  I fuzzed up a bit, but next calmly asked him what kind of MC I should be looking for... At the time, I was cruising the 'net looking at a mid-eighties crotch rocket in Peoria that was for sale.  He pointed to the screen and said, "You should get a Kurasawa.  They're really good."  I was stumped... a Kurasawa. 

Not wanting to be a complete dumbass, I stewed on his recommendation for a few minutes.  He's a child of '90, you know the Matrix and all that bs... but I was thinking that they featured a Ducati in that movie, so again, I'm lost... Anyway, I'm digressing. 

Just to keep the topic alive, I pointed out to him that my 32 year old "unreliable" Honda is still going strong.  "Yeah" but it's not a "street bike,"  he replied.  Now I'm totally lost.  Not a street bike, I'm thinking.  Again, sometimes I've gotta think through his answer and "decipher" the meaning.  He goes on to ask, "How fast does it go?"  I answer that it goes faster than I want to go, but that I've had it to about 105 mph.  "How'd it 'hold together' at that speed?" Says he.  I replied, "Well, I'm here obviously so it must have managed to 'hold together' okay."  Actually, I was pulling like a freight train and I got scared and backed off. 

Then it dawns on me.  A "Kurasawa," I say.  "Yep," he replies.  "You mean, a 'Kurasawa Ninja,' right?"  I'm focused on him now.  "Yea, a Ninja they're really cool and reliable."  He answers. 

I ended this little venture by pointing out that maybe "Kurasawa" was pronounced "Kawasaki" in Japanese, and that maybe I might be mistaken.  After all there are several dialects in Japan, and I could have become confused. 

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2008, 06:48:30 AM »
Ah yes, Kurasawa, the unreliable Kawasaki.

Just like Huunda. Man, those bikes were terrible.



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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2008, 09:27:42 PM »
In one hour, I depart for a 4 day, 1500 mile ride through Southern Utah.  My bike shows 78,000 miles on the odometer.

I'll do a book report on the reliability on Tuesday.  Ha, Ha, later losers! ;D



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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2008, 09:53:06 PM »
Many of us are always scouting for that rare find. Occasionally you come across them. Doesn't really matter if it's a Honda four or an old 70's CB whatever....

The bikes ran for years, then sat idle for years. Possibly outside in weather. You pick them up. Go over the basics and they fire right up.  ;D

nuff said!
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2008, 10:04:46 PM »
In one hour, I depart for a 4 day, 1500 mile ride through Southern Utah.  My bike shows 78,000 miles on the odometer.

I'll do a book report on the reliability on Tuesday.  Ha, Ha, later losers! ;D



I'm back from my trip.  I have good news and bad news.
Uh Oh........wut happened????...good news first.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2008, 10:32:37 PM »
Red line any other motor for 5 hours, see what happens.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2008, 07:09:34 AM »
I'm new to this whole M/C game.
When my father-in-law spotted my 78 750K for sale he told me I should jump at it. Am I ever glad for listening.
I checked out the local scene and befriended a few SOHC owners and with their advise I replaced the original brake line with an S/S Line and replaced the chain and sprockets. I replaced the oil and oil/air filters and after 5200kms of free maintenance (waxing chain don't count) :D :D I'm as thrilled as a pig in SHYT!!!!! ;D ;D ;D.

I will be buying a new bike eventually but I'll never get rid of this time capsule.

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2008, 08:38:27 AM »
Uh Oh........wut happened????...good news first.

Good news is we had a good trip - although cold, windy, dust-storms, power outage across the entire navajo nation (meaning no gas), and a breakdown.

Bad news is the breakdown:

My number four intake rocker started tapping badly 20 miles out of Moab - which i would not consider a breakdown.  I had the toos, so we pulled into the motel and I started to unscrew the rocker cover... and it unscrewed right off it's threads.

I don;t really think I over-torqued that cover, but there I was in a small town with a useless tappet cover and a useless motorcycle if I can't get it fixed.

Some JB weld and silicone gasket maker and bailing wire and four hours of set up time later, the bike was only leaking a little oil and ran fine all the way home.


I'm feeling today that it's always something:  A newly shorted wire, an unknown crack in some aluminum, a funny noise in the clutch.  Maybe these bikes are reliable if you spend a whole winter replacing every old part with a new one - or maybe you just buy a late model SV-650 and keep your Honda for weekend fun.

Maybe somebody can help repair my faith like they've been helping with repair this bike for four years.
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2008, 04:32:12 PM »
Well, you've summed it up in one post.  Are you going to fix the items that need fixing on a reg. basis?  Or would you rather purchase the Suzuki (or other new bike) and ride "trouble free" for a few years, then start fixing? 

My vote is for both.  I want to continue to ride the Honda AND fix it, but I want to continue to ride while fixing.  I believe that I'll learn to work on this one and have a second bike (maybe new or newer) to ride when I'm wrenching on the Honda. 

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2008, 04:44:31 PM »
Uh Oh........wut happened????...good news first.

Good news is we had a good trip - although cold, windy, dust-storms, power outage across the entire navajo nation (meaning no gas), and a breakdown.

Bad news is the breakdown:

My number four intake rocker started tapping badly 20 miles out of Moab - which i would not consider a breakdown.  I had the toos, so we pulled into the motel and I started to unscrew the rocker cover... and it unscrewed right off it's threads.

I don;t really think I over-torqued that cover, but there I was in a small town with a useless tappet cover and a useless motorcycle if I can't get it fixed.

Some JB weld and silicone gasket maker and bailing wire and four hours of set up time later, the bike was only leaking a little oil and ran fine all the way home.


I'm feeling today that it's always something:  A newly shorted wire, an unknown crack in some aluminum, a funny noise in the clutch.  Maybe these bikes are reliable if you spend a whole winter replacing every old part with a new one - or maybe you just buy a late model SV-650 and keep your Honda for weekend fun.

Maybe somebody can help repair my faith like they've been helping with repair this bike for four years.




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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2008, 06:28:38 PM »

I'm feeling today that it's always something:  A newly shorted wire, an unknown crack in some aluminum, a funny noise in the clutch.  Maybe these bikes are reliable if you spend a whole winter replacing every old part with a new one - or maybe you just buy a late model SV-650 and keep your Honda for weekend fun.

Maybe somebody can help repair my faith like they've been helping with repair this bike for four years.

i'll just offer this thought: will you be able to fix your SV when it breaks down? i think like you sometimes... i'm 5-6K into my 718cc bike. i could easily have bought an SV with that. BUT, i know absolutely everything about my bike...so when something goes the least bit awry i know exactly where to look. any new machine is going to take some time before problems arise (ok, maybe not all of them...). if you are comparing new to old, then yes there are more reliable bikes out there. a '70s CB that has been thoroughly gone through i believe will rival many bikes off the showroom floor for reliability.

i let a buddy take the 718 out for a spin, and he was mad that my 32 year old bike shifts smoother and easier than his '08 hypermotard.  oh well. :-\ ;)
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2008, 06:55:52 PM »
I'm feeling today that it's always something:  A newly shorted wire, an unknown crack in some aluminum, a funny noise in the clutch.  Maybe these bikes are reliable if you spend a whole winter replacing every old part with a new one - or maybe you just buy a late model SV-650 and keep your Honda for weekend fun.

Maybe somebody can help repair my faith like they've been helping with repair this bike for four years.

Greg its always something until all those "somethings" are fixed. When they are you will have a smooth, reliable ride. And if something does go, you will know exactly where to look. Ive used my CB750 K4 for the last 7 years and its taken me to 15 countries and 40,000 miles. Did it break down? No only punctures.....did I have to invest some $$s and rebuild the engine at 50,00 miles...sure and it was worth it.

Id say thats fairly reliable for a 34 year old bike.

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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2008, 07:00:48 PM »
I love my CB750's, but over here in Oz, due to the 365 day a year riding season, they get a real hammering, and most that I've bought over the years has been stuffed. Buggered big end bearings, main bearings, cam bearings, camshafts, camchains, dropped valves, output shaft bearings, are all too common on CB750 engines. I've got a garage full of engine parts that are "past their use by date".

I wouldn't know about the other SOHC4 engines, I only ever had one other, a CB350F with less than 20,000 miles on the engine, and apart from gummed up rings, it was a gem.  

My other infatuation are Suzuki GS1000's, and as opposed to CB750's they are truly "bullet proof". I recently bought a very tired looking example that had been sitting under a tarp in someone's yard near the beach for five years, and it looked like it was freshly pulled out of a salt water drain, so I was expecting the worse.

On top of that, the forks were visibly bent and there were scrapes on the alternator cover, points cover, front fender, the Yoshimura pipe was rusted thru at the header bends, and later I discovered the frame was bent. This thing had been in the wars.

I dumped the oil and filters and replaced them with new ones, removed the old battery and put in a new one, and hit the button, and "VROOM", away it went. No smoke, no rattles, with 50,000 miles on the clock, the engine was like new, and even the charging system was working!

My personal belief is that the big Kawasaki's and Suzuki's of the 1970's were the best engines built at the time, bar none. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2008, 07:06:56 PM »
As a diehard Honda guy,it pains me to say it but you are right Terry.   Rock On
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Re: Why do people say these bikes are unreliabe
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2008, 07:10:18 PM »
I would certainly agree with Andy - Your gonna spend money, especially if you've aquired the bike from someone who hasn't taken care of it, or it has just been sitting for years.  But once you fumble through the tune-up/resto process, the bike is not going to leave you on the side of the road.  Compared to my old Triumph 750, this CB750 is a dream.  I had nothing but trouble with the Lucas electrics on the Triumph and nearly laid it down as it completely powered off/Died...Dead  around a sharp corner in traffic.  Never had that happen on my Honda.

 
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