Author Topic: Painting in cold, cold weather... (Read 4297 times)

SClay115 · « **on:** December 17, 2008, 06:15:30 AM »

Working on a winter project, and I am at a point where I need to paint the tank and fender. It's cold here obviously(upstate NY), and I'm used to painting in Florida weather as this is my first winter here. So I would expect that it would be very difficult to shoot any sort of paint in freezing or below temperatures. So a quick thought I had was to keep the parts to be painted, and the paint, inside, and then move it outside to actually shoot the paint(for ventilation purposes) and then move the parts back inside(basement) to dry...

Any thoughts on this? Unfortunately, I don't have access to a booth. And am not in the position to pay someone to shoot it at a body shop(I do all my own work). So what do you guys think?

Steve

73hutch · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2008, 06:25:39 AM »

hmm. i would think keeping the air temp and surface temp the same would be crucial. you wouldn't want any condensation to form at all and you wouldn't want to compromise the adheson of the paint. especially on major parts like a tank. but then again, i'm not an expert...

greenjeans · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2008, 06:28:15 AM »

73 is right....warm parts, cold air & paint don't mix too well. Is there anyway that you could rig an exhaust fan of some sort
and paint inside ? On e advantage of cold is that paint flows easier...

SClay115 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2008, 06:44:34 AM »

Well, the parts wouldn't be outside but for the amount of time it takes to shoot the color, then back inside...in the warmth. If I didn't clarify that....

Steve

tygrant · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2008, 07:01:18 AM »

I live in NH and thats how i paint my stuff, i heat them up then bring them out spray them and bring them in, the problem is bringing them back it. the metal itself cant get to cold or in condensates when it coems back in to the warm air. i recently painted my tank and side covers this way. i bring the stuf outside to paint and into my garage to dry, the garage is in the 50s so its not ideal but works fine. it also depends on the level of paint job. mines flat black so it doesnt have to be perfect... good luck

Jheart · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2008, 08:53:57 AM »

I use a good charcoal filter mask, and paint in sections, I have a wood stove in my garage. Are you worried about overspray?

UnCrash · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2008, 10:23:28 AM »

I hadn't thought about warming parts up inside, then taking them out to paint and back inside to dry.

There's hope for my winter project yet! So much painting to do.....

tygrant · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2008, 10:37:42 AM »

like i said, it works but you have to be careful when bringing it back in, the paint is still wet and it condensates on the wet paint if its too cold

Spikeybike · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2008, 10:48:43 AM »

i've done this and had good results , you just gotta be as quick as possible

UnCrash · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2008, 10:52:59 AM »

I can be quick with most parts, its the frame which needs painting (fire engine red) that I'm not so sure about.

Spikeybike · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2008, 10:58:58 AM »

for that you might want to invest in a space heater

moham · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2008, 11:01:04 AM »

you guys need ice houses...paint booth doubles as a fish house.

Johnny5 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2008, 11:05:55 AM »

Yep, I've built a little booth in my basement. I live in Michigan and am all too familiar with the winter chill.

Here's a picture of it just before I finished it off. Fully enclosed in plastic. Catches all the overspray and I put a fan/filter in the corner to help clear the tent as I work. I recently sprayed my frame in this setup. Worked well.

dusterdude · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2008, 11:17:29 AM »

florida to new york?hope it was for love or money.

moham · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2008, 11:48:25 AM »

Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 11:05:55 AM

Yep, I've built a little booth in my basement. I live in Michigan and am all too familiar with the winter chill.

Here's a picture of it just before I finished it off. Fully enclosed in plastic. Catches all the overspray and I put a fan/filter in the corner to help clear the tent as I work. I recently sprayed my frame in this setup. Worked well.

Very Nice. Does the fan vent out to the rest of the garage or do you have it directed out somehow?

SClay115 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2008, 11:53:43 AM »

Quote from: dusterdude on December 17, 2008, 11:17:29 AM

florida to new york?hope it was for love or money.

It was for family. And for school to do what I love. So, I suppose that is love on both accounts? And yes, I'm hating not being on the bike right now...

Steve

Johnny5 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2008, 12:06:40 PM »

Quote from: moham on December 17, 2008, 11:48:25 AM

Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
Yep, I've built a little booth in my basement. I live in Michigan and am all too familiar with the winter chill.

Here's a picture of it just before I finished it off. Fully enclosed in plastic. Catches all the overspray and I put a fan/filter in the corner to help clear the tent as I work. I recently sprayed my frame in this setup. Worked well.

Very Nice. Does the fan vent out to the rest of the garage or do you have it directed out somehow?

This is my basement actually. I place a furnace type of filter in front of the fan to catch the majority of spray and just open the window that's just outside the tent on the other side to let in fresh air.

moham · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2008, 02:59:19 PM »

Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 12:06:40 PM

Quote from: moham on December 17, 2008, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
Yep, I've built a little booth in my basement. I live in Michigan and am all too familiar with the winter chill.

Here's a picture of it just before I finished it off. Fully enclosed in plastic. Catches all the overspray and I put a fan/filter in the corner to help clear the tent as I work. I recently sprayed my frame in this setup. Worked well.

Very Nice. Does the fan vent out to the rest of the garage or do you have it directed out somehow?

This is my basement actually. I place a furnace type of filter in front of the fan to catch the majority of spray and just open the window that's just outside the tent on the other side to let in fresh air.

Yea, I suppose the plumbing and all the concrete should have made that apparent. I'm a bit slow.

Tom in Newcastle......Ontario · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2008, 03:53:48 PM »

Quote from: moham on December 17, 2008, 02:59:19 PM

Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: moham on December 17, 2008, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny5 on December 17, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
Yep, I've built a little booth in my basement. I live in Michigan and am all too familiar with the winter chill.

Here's a picture of it just before I finished it off. Fully enclosed in plastic. Catches all the overspray and I put a fan/filter in the corner to help clear the tent as I work. I recently sprayed my frame in this setup. Worked well.

Very Nice. Does the fan vent out to the rest of the garage or do you have it directed out somehow?

This is my basement actually. I place a furnace type of filter in front of the fan to catch the majority of spray and just open the window that's just outside the tent on the other side to let in fresh air.

Yea, I suppose the plumbing and all the concrete should have made that apparent. I'm a bit slow.

I did something quite similar last winter,Ontario Can,but I built my plastic tent around a basement window and put a fan out the window to pull the fumes out of the house and away from the rest of the people /pets in the house,also wore a respirator while painting,I probably lost some heat from the house ,but there were no paint fumes upstairs,,as a side note put some plastic down on the floor or else you will get the overspray stuck to the floor

Johnny5 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2008, 06:35:07 PM »

Yeah, I put plastic over the floor too as that's where most of the overspray lands. And definitely wear a mask.

byron750 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2008, 03:22:46 AM »

build a bender or sweat lodge out of hazel or willow or other bendy wood (ha i said bendy wood!) cover with a tarpaulin, leaving an exit gap, run out an extension to use an oil filled electric radiator,within your "dome" get it hot in there, use a home built jig to hold the tank, out of scrap wood. then make sure you have on a charcoal filter mask, and primar, then leg it out, closing tghe flap of the dome you haVE MADE.......LEAVING THE HEATER ON, OPEN FLAP TO LET IT CLEAR, INSPECT TANK FOR FLAWS, FLAT IT DOWN WITH SCOTCHBRIGHT OR 600S GRADE WT And dry, used wet.....allow to dry completely, then go on with your colour,same again, close flap and allow to dry, apply stripes, then bring in house for twenty four hours in to the heat again, and then go back into pre-heated dome,scotchbright gently including stripes and then apply three TACK COATS OF LAQUER.
THEN WHEN TACKED OFF....A DOUBLE-HEADER OF LAQUER AND BOBS YOUR UNCLE DONE AND DUSTED. I AM A QUALIFIED SPRAYER BY THE WAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBS THEN MAIL OR PM ME.

KingCustomCycles.com · « **Reply #21 on:** December 19, 2008, 03:32:12 AM »

Quote from: byron750 on December 19, 2008, 03:22:46 AM

build a bender or sweat lodge out of hazel or willow or other bendy wood (ha i said bendy wood!) cover with a tarpaulin, leaving an exit gap, run out an extension to use an oil filled electric radiator,within your "dome" get it hot in there, use a home built jig to hold the tank, out of scrap wood. then make sure you have on a charcoal filter mask, and primar, then leg it out, closing tghe flap of the dome you haVE MADE.......LEAVING THE HEATER ON, OPEN FLAP TO LET IT CLEAR, INSPECT TANK FOR FLAWS, FLAT IT DOWN WITH SCOTCHBRIGHT OR 600S GRADE WT And dry, used wet.....allow to dry completely, then go on with your colour,same again, close flap and allow to dry, apply stripes, then bring in house for twenty four hours in to the heat again, and then go back into pre-heated dome,scotchbright gently including stripes and then apply three TACK COATS OF LAQUER.
THEN WHEN TACKED OFF....A DOUBLE-HEADER OF LAQUER AND BOBS YOUR UNCLE DONE AND DUSTED. I AM A QUALIFIED SPRAYER BY THE WAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBS THEN MAIL OR PM ME.

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UnCrash · « **Reply #22 on:** December 19, 2008, 05:32:53 AM »

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BOBS YOUR UNCLE DONE AND DUSTED

tygrant · « **Reply #23 on:** December 19, 2008, 05:56:53 AM »

im a qualified painter too... Krylon certified

Jheart · « **Reply #24 on:** December 26, 2008, 01:50:25 PM »

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Byron I'm just kidding, your post is probably the most complete and enthusiastic of this entire thread. Kickass advice in an epic run-on sentence. Please post in this manner for the rest of your time on the board. BOBS YOUR UNCLE DONE AND DUSTED.

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