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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2009, 04:39:05 am »
 I can say from experience that the nippon's chains are very nice pieces. I'm looking forward to seeing the final tensioner unit.
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #76 on: May 06, 2009, 05:31:09 pm »
Is there enough room to run a tensioner on both chains?

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2009, 07:05:20 pm »
I can say from experience that the nippon's chains are very nice pieces. I'm looking forward to seeing the final tensioner unit.

Mike, I'm putting this thread of yours into the sticky Daytona CR750 thread to make it easier to find.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #78 on: May 06, 2009, 08:34:08 pm »
I can say from experience that the nippon's chains are very nice pieces. I'm looking forward to seeing the final tensioner unit.

Mike, I'm putting this thread of yours into the sticky Daytona CR750 thread to make it easier to find.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #79 on: May 07, 2009, 09:50:20 am »
Can't wait to see the movie - SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS is good!  ;D
Will you have pics of the roller tensioner?
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2009, 12:08:09 am »
Do you have to split the case to change the primary chains?
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2009, 12:18:39 am »
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2009, 03:18:04 am »
did anyone know from what sportscar the chains are??
im very intersted about these chains but if the car manufacture has the chain he always has the chain wheel so you can easily build a justable tensioner.
some member from german sohc club knows that porsche has this chainwheel. otherwise you must kill a defective crankshaft for getting the wheel.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2009, 05:38:21 am »
Hi,
it is not as easy as you think.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2009, 06:01:15 am »
Hi,
it is not as easy as you think.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2009, 06:59:18 am »
yes its not so easy for beginners but i think it can be easy if you have enough good ideas  ;)
so what is with this?? can it work with little modification in cb engine??
http://www.sohotbikes.com/ or you use two of them uper side and downside of chain with other nylons.
later i will scan some fotos from selfmade chain tensioner from clubmember.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2009, 04:21:47 pm »
Didn't I see pics on this board somewhere where someone had done a hydraulyc primary tensioner?  I remember being especially impressed with pictures of the mods to the crankcase that were done.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2009, 04:37:59 pm »
Oh, geeze, now I'm feeling all down.

Searches led me back to a recent post by Axl.  :'(


wow, i think i just started something...lol  :P

well, to redeem myself, i think i may have scored another hondamatic crank about an hour away from me. this time i'll hold onto it for when i come around to building this hi-po engine.

if you buy a bunch of small stuff through yamiya, their primary chains are cheaper than anywhere here in america. it's the shipping that kills me. they have the best deal on DID rims but it was an extra $160 in shippping.
M3 used those A cranks. The tensioner is the interesting part.

In 10 words or less, what's the benefit of the "A" crank? News to me but I certainly don't know everything. Quite a bit less. TIA
A better primary drive, a hi-vo chain instead of the two simplex chains.  Oops, that was more than 10 already  :o

While I'm over the limit anyway, here you go: You will of course need a matching primary sprocket on the clutch drive. The early (GL 1000) Gold Wing will work as a donor, their sprocket can be riveted on the 750 cush drive.

As MRieck said, the funny part is the tensioner. Some people just run without one, some use sliders off a Gold Wing, some (as M3) use the hydraulic tensioner and sliders from a 750/900 DOHC model. Needs an oil feed to pressurise the tensioner, easiest off the oil gallery.

Primary chains from a 750/900/1100 DOHC or Gold Wing are all too short, you will need two of them to make one. For those interested, Egli-Racing in Germany has new primary chains with exact length.

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Also, the pics I was thinking of were by Lordmoonpie, in his Ultimate Motor thread.

can only find pics of the modded oil pump right now.



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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2009, 10:35:23 pm »
When Rickey Racer was in the shop a few weeks ago, he had some high strength primary chains with him. Something they were selling.

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2009, 04:21:00 am »
Yes I think I posted pics of my hydraulic tensioner for the hy-vo primary. The pic above shows the oil feed to the pin to create the additional upward pressure and help the standard (now pre-loaded) spring....of course I don't know if it's quiet yet as I'm a month or so from running it up....ooooh! Now that's getting close!!
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2009, 04:34:58 am »
Yes I think I posted pics of my hydraulic tensioner for the hy-vo primary. The pic above shows the oil feed to the pin to create the additional upward pressure and help the standard (now pre-loaded) spring....of course I don't know if it's quiet yet as I'm a month or so from running it up....ooooh! Now that's getting close!!
Will you fire that thing up and get it over with.....I can only hold my breath for about 2 years Lord. ;) ;) ;D
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2009, 12:21:40 pm »
I can't Mike - not until I get some brakes or I might start and never stop :D
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2009, 11:59:54 am »
Hey Heffay - here's a pic of the tensioner welded into my cases - note plate welded in at the left to make a platform for it. The oil pump picture you posted is the underside of this...
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2010, 10:14:00 am »
seems to me if we could determin the exact size of the primary chains we could buy a length of heavey duty chain like Tsubaki and make up our own for a considerably cheaper price I think that  over $300 is  a bit over priced for the heavey duty german made chain come on a drive chain is 3 times the size and twice the length and a 1/3 the price. I've got a primary chai in my hand  and measure .375 pitch and .250 roller having a little trouble finding the correct width though how bout some help on this ?

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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #94 on: July 17, 2010, 01:19:03 pm »
If it was easily available, it would be out there..cheap.

So I am guessong its not that easy to get, made up in custom lengths..
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Re: Heavy Duty primary chains from M3...
« Reply #95 on: July 17, 2010, 04:38:09 pm »
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come on a drive chain is 3 times the size and twice the length and a 1/3 the price.

Completely different type of chain. I have the German chains and knowing that i will probably never have to replace them in the life of my bike makes them easily worth the money..

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