Author Topic: My New Bike...a 1970 CL90 Scrambler (Read 9889 times)

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **on:** January 21, 2009, 07:15:14 AM »

Hey Everyone,
Just wanted to say i'm going to post some progress pix of my clean up of my New to me 1970 CL90, originally the Previous Owner listed it as a 1969 in the craigslist ad but after some research it was a 1970 model, which does not matter really, anyways does anybody know where i could find info on how many units honda produced of this model? I'm very excited to learn as much as i can about this bike as i always wanted one when younger and it finally happened.
ANY info would be greatly appreciated.
DWYJ
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fuzzybutt · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2009, 09:49:26 AM »

sweet looking motorcycle dougy, i love the look of the smaller hondas.

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2009, 10:03:40 AM »

ah, Me too Fuzzy
brings back some cool childhood memories
all i have to do is charge the battery now and clean the carb, i'm planning Saturday morning with some pix!
i'll post in the afternoon
Thanks,
Dougy/DWYJ

bill440cars · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2009, 10:24:00 AM »

Uh oh!

Just wait til Gordon (Ilbikes) sees this one!

He's into the smaller ones like that too!

Cool bike you've picked up on.

tbpmusic · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2009, 10:33:21 AM »

Quote from: Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy on January 21, 2009, 07:15:14 AM

Hey Everyone,
Just wanted to say i'm going to post some progress pix of my clean up of my New to me 1970 CL90, originally the Previous Owner listed it as a 1969 in the craigslist ad but after some research it was a 1970 model, which does not matter really, anyways does anybody know where i could find info on how many units honda produced of this model? I'm very excited to learn as much as i can about this bike as i always wanted one when younger and it finally happened.
ANY info would be greatly appreciated.
DWYJ

Bill -

Sweeeet !!!

I have contacted Honda directly about ths issue, and have been firmly told that all sales/production figures are strictly proprietary info - nothing I could say swayed them.
It didn't matter that I was asking about 40-50 year old models, same answer form them.

Go figure......

bill2

Artfrombama · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2009, 10:38:09 AM »

I thought the CL100 took the place of the CL90 in 1970?

But WTF do I know?

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:06:22 AM »

Artfrombama,
Me thought that too but my title says otherwise!?!? the guy who sold it said it was a 1969 also?? i do not think he knew what he had?
There was a bike just like it and what he was selling it for floored me, i've always wanted a CL90 but nEVER saw any and was hoping for an S90 when i spotted this one.
He sold it to me for $300 which i feel was fair as it is very clean and original for the year bike it was. Here is the AD for the other guys bike:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/999693249.html

I'm super anxious to get her running Saturday morning!!
Thanks,
DWYJ/Dougy

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:53:16 AM »

Artfrombama,
You might be right about the CL90 being a 1969 as in researching on www.cmsnl.com , it said they were made until the end of 1969, granted my title is a duplicate from the DMV but i was trying to research WHEN this model was made from and until so i knew a little bit more about it..i'll keep researching, and i saw your post(s) on Vintage Tumper Talk, which i will check out from time to time
Thanks Bama
D

tbpmusic · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2009, 11:54:34 AM »

Quote from: Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy on January 21, 2009, 11:06:22 AM

Me thought that too but my title says otherwise!?!? the guy who sold it said it was a 1969 also??

Doug -

You can't go by the title on these old bikes - typically, they were titled as the year they sold, not the year they were produced.
What does the VIN on the bike frame say??

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:02:39 PM »

tbpmusic,
I'll check as soon as i get home @ 3:30 p.m. Pacific time...hey Thanks for Helping
i think it is indeed a 1969 as i found some info stating that they were made in 1967 thru 1969
but i'll find out and post.
Doug

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2009, 06:33:40 AM »

tbpmusic,
so i was checking the vin and trying to do some research, why is it so hard to find out stuff about this bike?
it IS a honda...here is the vin if you can tell me what or anything by it would be appreciated
Vin # CL90-222787
Thanks for any help!
DWYJ/Doug

kirkn · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2009, 07:21:14 AM »

Judging by that VIN#, and per this site, it's a '69.

http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0090/scramb90/scramb90.htm

Kirk

tbpmusic · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2009, 08:55:51 AM »

It's a situation similar to the CB450 4-speed (Bomber), where the production run covered several years, with no "K" series designated, and no deliniation between years/serial numbers.
So I'll have to go with Kirk, it's probably a 1969.
Since Honda will not release production or sales numbers on any of their bikes, no matter the age, that's as far as I could take it.

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2009, 11:30:03 AM »

You guys ever seen any of those old ads floating around? i remember seeing them as a kid but now??
Thanks Kirk & tbpmusic for all your help thus far...heh heh i'm gonna get some pix asap of the bike
so i can post progress shots..it won't be a bunch but hey it's all good
Thanks Again
DWYJ

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2009, 06:06:11 PM »

Bill wrote: Uh oh! Just wait til Gordon (Ilbikes) sees this one! He's into the smaller ones like that too! Cool bike you've picked up on.

Sorry I missed this one earlier. I've been down with the cold - pretty rough this time too.

Bill, I've gained a lot of weight since I could "into" one of those. Now it's more like "on them - all over them".

Yep, I do have a sweet spot for those. I do remember being 11 and thinking my S90 was about as good as life could get....

I would have guessed 1968/69 based on the tank and round badges. It looks a lot like my old CL175.

Gordon

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:21:31 PM »

Gordon..do you have any pictures to share of the Old Singles?? I've been out cleaning the rims and fenders with WD & 3M scotchbrite real lightly and the battery is on the charger & i dug into one of my old parts boxes and found some rear pegs i kept...for whatever reason and fit them up along with a license plate frame..ah it feels great just cleaning her up and Saturday i'll clean the carb and add some gas, put the battery in and see if it fires! It has great compression and shifted thru the gears smoothly
Thanks
DWYJ
p.s. my whole family just got rid of the crud

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:43:18 PM »

Doug, I really don't have but that 1 single - the 1966 S90. My 1973 DT3 Yamaha Enduro is single, but probably not what you were looking for. Bill knows I have a soft spot for the old Hondas. I've managed to find exact copies of the S90, CL175, CB350, CB500 Four, of those I had growing up. I've restored and collected several more since, but those will always have a special place.

Good luck this weekend on getting it started.

Regards,
Gordon

bill440cars · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:33:32 PM »

Gordon, sure hate to hear that you'd been down for a bit. We've had some of that "crud" going around here too. I've been lucky enough to have missed most of it. You take care of yourself.

Yeah, I knew you'd like to pop in here and check this one out.

Take care, Bill

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2009, 08:51:00 AM »

Thanks Gordon,
I'm going out to the garage in a bit and snap some pix and work on it
i'll post later this afternoon
Doug

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2009, 12:23:33 PM »

Well i went out to the garage and pulled the battery i had charged overnite and it won't hold a charge, so i'm going to have to run out and get one later, It did clean up rather nice and i still need to clean the carb so i'm posting some pix in the mean time, it has very nice compression but all the reciepts show small items like clutch cable, seal, gaskets etc. so i think it might be stock bore?!? The guy who sold it to me said it was his girlfriends bike and she must have been a gearhead somewhat because all the reciepts are signed by her and she kept a folder for the bike with research on tires(I don't know if i'm boring you guys but i like a lil history) and she was the 2nd owner, it came with a smudged shop manual(she must have wrenched too!) and the orignal owners manual, the only thing it doesn't have is the tool kit which i'm going to try and find. So overall i'm really happy and i'll update after i get the battery and clean the carb. Oh yeah, i found an old set of rear pegs which fit but arent exact factory units..but hey..they are on ebay. I have the original air box and filter set aside.
Good thing i'm not superstitious because the license plate is unique and I LIKE James Bond movies.
Doug/DWYJ
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Artfrombama · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2009, 03:24:44 PM »

Drag a piece of sandpaper through the points, then set them to .014" (at the highest point). Put a dab of white grease on the point cam.
Cool bike. I lusted after one like it when I was a kid. Be sure to stick a breather on the carb before you do much riding.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2009, 04:57:08 PM »

Doug, get an air filter on there of some kind. It won't be standard bore long and that good compression will leave town in a hurry without filtration.

Regards,
Gordon

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2009, 06:00:25 PM »

Oh i hear ya guys...i would never ride out on the road the way it is...i just knew i'd probably have to pull the carb and didn't run my filter...i just tried to kick it over and see if i had spark, thats all...Thanks for the compliments!
Doug

stay youth · « **Reply #23 on:** January 27, 2009, 10:29:46 PM »

Party Bike!!!!!

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #24 on:** January 29, 2009, 06:42:25 AM »

Yo MK,
I Love taht lil bugger...brings out the "mini" steve mcqueen in me..ha ha
we'll have to go for a ride..i'll get my buddy to truck the bike over and run thru the city on the hills...i want to go
check out Charlies Place for sure
Later,
DWYJ

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2009, 06:36:30 AM »

Well i went to the local dealer and checked on the battery situation. I was still in their database and got reaquaited with my old parts guy, who was happy to see me and was curious to see the CL90 so i said after i got it running i'd run it over for him to check out! the NEW battery cost me $18.95 plus tax! they said they'd fill and charge it and i could get it tuesday as soon as parts dept opened, mike(parts guy) said there is a fellow who is a regular there who restores old Honda singles and he'd LOVE to see the bike and quite possibly have NOS parts or could be helpful in locating them, something to keep in mind!
anyhow, i'll run over today after work to pick up the battery and order a new drive chain...which i tried to soak and revive but 2 links are kinked and will not loosen..i'd feel better with a new chain anyways
til later,
Doug

hoodellyhoo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2009, 08:38:17 AM »

I find it interesting that a small honda like that was so well taken care of and documented. Usually it seems the smaller ones were the most abused, sorta like why original honda cubs are so scarce when they sold millions of them.

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #27 on:** February 03, 2009, 11:24:37 AM »

Hoo,
Yeah...the previous owner was a girl who rode the crap out of it while going to College here in the bay area
would you believe it has 17,897 miles on it also? and the condition of it also! when i aswered the ad i was expecting a rotting shell of a bike, but was pleasantly
surprised, I just checked on my battery and it's ready to go and they have a new 428 chain waiting for me for $20! man i love the prices for the parts on this bike and i will keep the folder documenting all the work done to this bike and add my reciepts! Overall i am very happy, the guy who sold it to me gave me new levers and rubber for the shifter and a new rear brake pedal(the other hardly needs replacing) plus a new air filter and gaskets for the carb...one thing that amazes me was the compression it has for the miles shown?!? i checked the oil(which i'll replace) and it seems like it is new or very clean and i'll take that as a good sign i'm guessing. I haven't done a compression check for cylinder pressure but it has way more than my CT90 with 1/2 the miles, but NO reciept for a new piston in the folder! so i'll assume stock bore. Has anybody heard of a bike with similar mileage holding such good compression?
Thanks for EVERYTHING you guys
Doug

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:13:14 AM »

Anybody ever change out a coil on an s90 or cl90 before?
i have a shop manual and ther is not one picture on the part or how to change one out, not sure if mine is good til i get the bettery hooked up tomorrow
but to me it looks like you have to drop the engine with these frames? totally wierd man
Doug

Dougy Dougy Dune Buggy · « **Reply #29 on:** February 11, 2009, 09:03:19 PM »

Well i got spark and lights...i'll admit i didn't get to the carb as planned but i know that is my problem now, the new chain is on and good to go, removed the uneeded toggle and wires but now i got a cover with a 3/8" hole..i haven't downloaded any pix yet but will after i do the carb. I replaced a missing brake return spring next to the signal switch but i've got 2 wires coming off a factory looking junction on the front brake cable just hanging there and i can't find anything in my manual but a schematic which is not clear and easy to read/interprep and not sure if it's related to the missing speedo cable which is super clear as mud in my 1970 manual...but i'm happy i got spark and lights!! chippin away
Later,
Doug

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