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Offline friedfish80

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 08:37:28 AM »
NPHLYT that post was not directed to you. I had some famley issues to deal with and have been off the board for a few weeks. I was kinda shocked to see this thread still being discussed. I just wanted to just chime in again on it.

I will check in on the  cb550 stand. I got a friend who's got a 350 come to think about it. I should go over and measure his stand too. Thanks

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2009, 08:41:20 AM »
NPHLYT that post was not directed to you. I had some famley issues to deal with and have been off the board for a few weeks. I was kinda shocked to see this thread still being discussed. I just wanted to just chime in again on it.

I will check in on the  cb550 stand. I got a friend who's got a 350 come to think about it. I should go over and measure his stand too. Thanks
Don't forget to check which side the spring tab is on.

I did this for a Suzuki project one time. Found the perfect shorter stand at a junkyard, got it home and realized the spring tab was on the wrong side.   :(
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2009, 08:53:44 AM »
Noted. Thanks for the tip. But I got a feeling I'm gona be fashioning my own anways. This way I can have how I want it.

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 02:21:41 PM »
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=44457.msg464410#msg464410


Pretty sure this was a CB350 stand.  7.25 inches.




CB450 kickstand, 8.25 inches:




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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2009, 04:24:35 PM »
don't sweat it man....we are one big family here.......... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

hope you have your family thing sorted out .....
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2009, 04:43:54 PM »
The point is, its way easier to find a body shop or someone with a homewelder, than a bike wrecker.. plus you get the foot flat, and less sinking in ASSfault.!

It must have been the presentation, ... I modded my bike, now tell me how to get it working again WITHOUT modding anything.... sorta thing.. ;D

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2009, 05:32:46 PM »

It must have been the presentation, ... I modded my bike, now tell me how to get it working again WITHOUT modding anything.... sorta thing.. ;D


ill admit i can do that in messages sometimes. Im sorry if i did. Its just that the kickstand is a cast piece and i dont want to compromise the strength or integrity of it.

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2009, 05:39:04 PM »
people cut and weld them all the time, its not a connecting rod, it's a kickstand...
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2009, 09:03:23 PM »
ok, then, to follow up on this,
I lowered my 650 and my bike is scary upright, too.  Like, to the point where I have to worry about whether or not I can park in some places.

I'm not opposed to grinding off the bottom of the kickstand

(the point opposite the rubber nubbie)

but I'd also like to look into just shorter stands because a) I don't have a torch etc b) while I know I could grab one end of the stand with an adj. wrench and bend up, I don't want to compromise the mounting bracket on the frame, the stand, etc. if I don't have to.

X and I were just going to take the grinder to the kickstand and take the point down to an angle where the bike leans properly, but the 650 kickstand is just a stupid design that way.

FWIW, I know the spring attachment for the 650 is the same as the 350- that is, in the front, but I haven't actually measured the 650 kickstand to know how long it actually is.
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2009, 09:49:51 PM »
You could park it on a 2x4. I had a bike i would just lean against a tree. makes finding a parking spot a little difficult. I also would not recomend leaving it there to long.


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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2009, 05:02:53 AM »
The problem with grinding off the foot of the kickstand is, the pointy end of the kickstand will sink into soft ground like a hot knife through butter, and will even work it's way through asphalt, particularly on warm days.  Heck, even a stock kickstand can do that which is why you want to carry a kickstand skidplate with you.

Anyhoo, 350 kick stands are around 6.5 or 7 inches.

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2009, 05:40:15 AM »
The problem with grinding off the foot of the kickstand is, the pointy end of the kickstand will sink into soft ground like a hot knife through butter, and will even work it's way through asphalt, particularly on warm days.  Heck, even a stock kickstand can do that which is why you want to carry a kickstand skidplate with you.

Anyhoo, 350 kick stands are around 6.5 or 7 inches.

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2009, 09:25:58 AM »
My K0 leaned too much, the PO just welded the handle end off a crescent wrench to the bottom of the side stand.  :o  Not being helpful, just a funny story.
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2009, 10:02:03 AM »
...funny stories are helpful.

Mystic- we're not planning on grinding the foot OFF, just 'kissing' the bottom of it until it meets the ground at the angle intended.  ...but do you think the 350 kickstands would work since the spring attachment is in front, just like the 650s or should I still worry?

oh and how hard is it to remove that kickstand bolt because it was a pain to try to get a socket around to make sure it was tight. :P
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2009, 12:58:50 PM »
I've found that the kickstand tabs on all the CB's are pretty similar, I'm betting a 350 kickstand would bolt right up.  The kockstand bolt only has a short threaded section, the rest of the length is a shoulder that passes through the kickstand's outer tab and the frame mounting tab.  So long as nothing's bent or rusty it should come out fairly easily.

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2009, 01:12:56 PM »
...funny stories are helpful.

Mystic- we're not planning on grinding the foot OFF, just 'kissing' the bottom of it until it meets the ground at the angle intended.  ...but do you think the 350 kickstands would work since the spring attachment is in front, just like the 650s or should I still worry?

oh and how hard is it to remove that kickstand bolt because it was a pain to try to get a socket around to make sure it was tight. :P
The bolt (not the lock nut) may be difficult to turn if the spring is still connected as it pulls the stand to an angle to bind against the turning of the bolt. Still, it can be done.

But if you are rounding off the head, better to remove the spring first. With the stand in down position, insert shims into the windings of the spring. I use strips of flashing folded over. Then move the stand to the up position and the spring will nearly fall off with no strain. Install is a snap as well.
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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2009, 01:20:51 PM »
The spring should come off first in any case, otherwise once you remove the bolt... Zing!

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Re: Lowered rear of bike. Now what about the kickstand???
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2009, 01:29:03 PM »
The spring should come off first in any case, otherwise once you remove the bolt... Zing!

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Good point!  :D
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