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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2009, 07:38:32 AM »
If these are successful is there any chance you'll do others? Like the 400? How many do you need to run to make it worth it?

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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2009, 10:05:40 AM »


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[/quote] Yes Mick.....I'm saving cash up. Start up isn't cheap.
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Are you going to have a prototype made up first so all of us can view the finished piece ?  If your friend is going to
make these, can't he help in the cost factor sense he's going to profit on the one's made in the future ?
  I know it's tuff to get started. I've tried a couple of custom projects myself and failed. I guess the demand for
these cb big blocks is low because MTC, APE, and WEISCO would be making them other wise.  I'm really interested
in what the finished piece will look like !  What would a unfinished bore block cost ?  I want to install my own sleeves.
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2009, 06:24:51 PM »
Thanks Mike, once i see what it is going to look like i would be prepared to put down a deposit if that will help at all.

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« Reply #103 on: June 13, 2009, 07:10:38 PM »
Thanks Mike, once i see what it is going to look like i would be prepared to put down a deposit if that will help at all.

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This project will be going forward in 4 to 6 weeks as funds allow. I realize people want to "see" a product and I completely understand that position. What people have to realize it takes a good bit of start up money.....we are not not talking "Third World" CAD designs. 3 or 4 blocks/heads plus 3 engine cases to measure. I am working on it and it will happen.
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2009, 05:17:04 AM »
In my best Mr Burns voice........eeeeeeeeexcellent..... ;D

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« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2009, 08:19:43 AM »
Can you do a wax prototype (painted black or silver) or a virtual rendering so we can see how big the finning is, etc..

I am thinking the right toolpaths on the base of the cylinders, could help gasket retention.. ie circular pattern sorta like a record..
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« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2009, 08:17:47 PM »
 I'm sure there will be at least 2 proto's
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #107 on: June 21, 2009, 12:18:01 AM »
Just wondering how your project is comming along. I'm really curious as to what the block will look like.  ;D
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #108 on: July 06, 2009, 03:18:18 AM »
Any news Mike, i was also wondering if you would be able to have the blocks nikasil coated to suit Jays pistons?

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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2009, 11:55:01 AM »
I'm really looking forward to seeing one of these. I don't have the $$$, but that doesn't mean I can't ogle with speed lust.
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« Reply #110 on: July 17, 2009, 09:39:28 AM »
Please keep us posted,Does this mean watch out CR750's,I know we can out handle you,@ Daytona you might rule but Roebling Road might be different.I would love to throw a leg over a 550 with close to 700ccs!!! Bill
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« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2009, 08:18:28 PM »
We get started Friday on this.
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« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2009, 08:23:55 PM »
Cool,what type of fin design are you using? RC's big block sure didn't have enough for street use.Similar to stock? more,Less? Inquiring minds want to know!Good Luck and let me know when available.Bill
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« Reply #113 on: July 22, 2009, 08:33:54 PM »
Cool,what type of fin design are you using? RC's big block sure didn't have enough for street use.Similar to stock? more,Less? Inquiring minds want to know!Good Luck and let me know when available.Bill
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« Reply #114 on: July 22, 2009, 08:37:56 PM »
I knew that just from reading your posts!!Bill,Look forward to it!
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #115 on: July 22, 2009, 09:07:40 PM »
obviously there's a business motivation here, but from an enthusiast's point of view, i wanna say thanks to mike and all involved for this deal. i see bunches of stuff for the kawasaki and it's heartening to see more investment into the sohc's.



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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #116 on: July 22, 2009, 09:22:03 PM »
Excellent, can't wait. Any pics or cad drawings Mike? And what are the chances of nikasil coated bores?

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« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2009, 05:51:30 AM »
Excellent, can't wait. Any pics or cad drawings Mike? And what are the chances of nikasil coated bores?

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  I'm bringing the cases, cylinders, heads to my friend Friday to start the measuring/designing....I'm not quite sure how much time that will take but it shouldn't be to long. And yes...I want nikasil bores. I figure we can get the bore to + .001 of the piston OD and send it to Millenium for the final hone and plating. I'll take some pics as things progress that's for sure.
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« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2009, 06:00:09 PM »
Way Cool!Pops would approve,Nikasil,Man I can hardly wait,MR,Thanks,Bill
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« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2009, 06:24:45 PM »
Well....everything is in place. We are looking at captured o rings around the return galleys, o ringed deck, running sleeves as opposed to Nickasil and other details. This will be very nicely done guys. Fin width, depth and spacing will be similar to the 750 head. I'll keep you fellas up to date with pics etc. I have to admit I'm a bit excited and I don't get excited about old bike stuff much anymore. ;) NOT!!!! ;) ;) ;D
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #120 on: July 25, 2009, 06:12:59 AM »
MR,you the man,another era of big bore 750's,with a proper cylinder,put that MR prominent,you deserve it,wow now i am getting excited   also Got to build CB500/550 race bike and powerful street bike.Nikasil propiretary or too pricey?Bill
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #121 on: July 25, 2009, 06:14:06 PM »
I have sleeves but i would love to know what the problem is with nikasil bores. Was it too expensive? Please let me know as this is still the way i would like to go.

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« Reply #122 on: July 25, 2009, 08:07:39 PM »
I have sleeves but i would love to know what the problem is with nikasil bores. Was it too expensive? Please let me know as this is still the way i would like to go.

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Mick....the sleeves comment was if someone wants to run them can it be built into the design. I want Nickasil and it that is that. ;) It is about expanding the design parameters as it is far easier building latitude into the design now as opposed to changing things later.
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Re: Billet blocks....who will pay
« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2009, 03:05:29 AM »
Thanks mate, thats good to hear, it was late when i read your post and thought you were only going to make them for sleeves, thanks for clearing that up mate....
From what you have described they should look killer.... ;D

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« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2009, 06:59:06 AM »
SO, whats the story here? Is there a line forming? How close are we to having the 5 people that are needed. Its hard to tell from the thread who is really in and who is just interested.
Is there a time frame goal? I'm interested at this point and would probably be a certain "yes" as the prototype shows up. Been watching the thread as it develops. Just thought it was time to let you know I'd be willing to cough up the $1200.

The "no sleeve" option seems most appealing to me as I'd like to actually ride with the motor built from this block and cooling might be key.