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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2010, 02:22:27 pm »
yes, you know it!
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« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2010, 07:11:40 pm »
Well, I disassembled the motor today to replace the lower O rings and found another issue on the way. The head gasket had a fair bit of oil on especially between 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 at the front of the engine. I think this means the head and cylinders were not mating up properly. I put in slightly shorter dowels, made sure the head and cylinders would touch without the gasket, reinstalled the gasket and torqued it to 175 inch pounds or about 14.5 foot pounds, right in between what the manual says. We tried a compression tester but that didn't work too well and found I had to use a thread chaser in a couple of spark plug holes to clean the threads. I called my friendly Honda expert and he suggested a leak down test so I asked/begged him to do it since I have no knowledge on this test. This may happen on Wednesday. This is aging me rapidly. Further updates as they occur.
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2010, 07:15:14 pm »
didn't you have the head and jugs planed so they mate up cleanly?
  I also remember reading some info about the valve cover mating surfaces being planed because they weren't perfectly flat from the factory.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2010, 07:18:56 pm »
I had the head planed but not the cylinders. I'm just going to cover it up and back away slowly for now until the test on Wednesday. I'm getting grumpy.
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2010, 07:21:04 pm »
ah... some wine and a suspense/drama film does it for me.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2010, 07:23:31 pm »
Wine - yes! 24 is on in about 37 minutes, that should help.
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2010, 07:24:30 pm »
I'm getting grumpy.
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God, do I know that feeling. I could tell you how I burned up 500 plus dollars in NOS parts over Christmas vacation. The SO has never seen me rant a rave ever! Doors were slamming and I had to sit in my garage for time out.  ::)
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2010, 08:43:51 pm »
I used the throw things and hit things with a hammer! When I broke some bones in my hand punching a wall I finally figured out that it was an expensive way to vent. I'm a slow learner. Now I cover it up, put my tools down carefully and back away. Then I go sit in a corner of the yard. When my wife sees this she knows not to ask 'What's wrong honey?"
Time outs aren't as long anymore but it took a long to get this far.  :-[ ::)
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2010, 10:53:18 pm »
Simpson, what DID you do to those NOS parts?
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« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2010, 09:17:55 am »
Simpson, what DID you do to those NOS parts?
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Hurts to discuss, but here I go
1.) NOS Sprocket Cover (Index 040) - While modifying the the back side supports to accommodate a larger counter shaft sprocket, I broke a piece off it. It fit back together fine with a small noticeable crack in the front. Would not have been to bad if I had just JB welded it. Instead I took to have it Tig welded. I tried to explain the circumstances but the guy burnt right through it making a mess. Luckily, I found another that day on Ebay for a Buy It Now price of 69USD.
2.) New Yamiya Lens for my Instruments. This one hurts bad. But the bottom line is I destroyed by getting adhesive on the front. So, I am using the originals.

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« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2010, 10:12:47 am »
Ouch! As someone said "I feel your pain!"
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2010, 12:29:43 pm »
Simpson,

If they are palstic lenses for your K0, the ruined finish can be sanded and buffed back to new.  All it takes is time and wet/dry grades of sandpaper.  Finish with the Novus platic pollishes.  I know how much those lenses are, thay can be saved!

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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2010, 07:50:07 pm »
Did a leak down test on my engine and #4 seemed to leak a bit more than perhaps it should but the mechanic that did it said it should be ok. At least the head gasket was not leaking. Whew! He did recommend to torque the head to about 18 pounds and  that he regularly torqued the 750 motors to 20 foot pounds. This is with a motor that has been run yet and quite oily. The best bet would be to run it for awhile and then do another test when things have settled in. So, back to putting the valve gear on and waiting for the polishing to come back.
Cheers,
Cliff,

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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2010, 08:07:55 pm »
And so it begins. the frame is back from the painter's and looks good. So good I'm going to get him to do some stuff I've done myself. Now it's a matter of emptying tubs of stuff I've been preparing for this day.
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So darn organized- i wanna be like you when i grow up ;D.

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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2010, 08:10:29 pm »
And so it begins. the frame is back from the painter's and looks good. So good I'm going to get him to do some stuff I've done myself. Now it's a matter of emptying tubs of stuff I've been preparing for this day.
Cheers,
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2010, 09:17:33 pm »
Well, I am a lot older than you guys and my memory is fading. I have 2 of some parts in shiny new Honda packages. Not that organized but thanks for the compliments. ;D
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2010, 05:35:30 pm »
Took the Goldwing and 750's outside to show them that there is a sun out there. The wife said it may be time to insure the Goldwing! Suuny/cloudy and around 10C.
Set the tappet clearance on the project motor, installed the oil pump and oil pan. As soon as the valve cover comes back from the polishers it can go in the frame.
Need some more flat 6 mm washers.
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2010, 08:37:42 pm »
Took the Goldwing and 750's outside to show them that there is a sun out there. The wife said it may be time to insure the Goldwing! Suuny/cloudy and around 10C.
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The significant other says I can have a Goldwing in about 5 years. Ahhhh, I can't wait. :)
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Re: Magpie/Cliff's K0 Project
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2010, 11:13:12 pm »
Take her for a ride on one "just to show her what it's like". If it's a cool day make sure her seat heater is on. Find a radio station she likes. Just roll the throttle on and you may get the bike sooner than you think. It's amazing what a nice bike it is for a friggin' bemoth. And, it's pretty fast and quiet - you can hear the fuel injectors at work.
Good luck!
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« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2010, 10:06:40 am »
Take her for a ride on one "just to show her what it's like". If it's a cool day make sure her seat heater is on. Find a radio station she likes. Just roll the throttle on and you may get the bike sooner than you think. It's amazing what a nice bike it is for a friggin' bemoth. And, it's pretty fast and quiet - you can hear the fuel injectors at work.
Good luck!
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Not to break up your thread even more, but we are taking a motorcycle trip through California this spring. She selected the ST1300 in light of the curves and wanting to still have fun in the corners. Plus it was cheaper to rent. Perhaps we should test drive one at the local dealer.
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« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2010, 04:02:34 pm »
The ST1300 is a nice bike. We had an ST1100 for a couple of years and felt it was a bit tight for us. I'm 6"3, 210 pounds, my wife 5'3 and about 120 pounds. There was no shortage of power and the 1300 is lighter and more horsepower. The Goldwing will handle the twisties too and she will be more comfortable on the Wing but the 1300 will be a lot of fun. They do give off a lot of heat I've heard.
Have you seen Yellow Wolf at the Gap on a Wing? Amazing! Cheers,
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« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2010, 04:59:51 pm »
Wow that rider on the yellow wing sure is flying.. Wow that's just crazy..

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« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2010, 05:37:27 pm »
Yes, he's quite a legend in the Goldwing forum. The cameraman was on a wing too. I'll try to find a crazy still shot of the two of them and post it. He rode like that once with a car tire on the back, they call it going to the Darkside. I've pushed our Wing fairly hard but not a good enough rider for that. Guys regularly drag the pegs and other parts.
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I think I just turned this into a GL1800 thread! :o

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« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2010, 05:43:04 pm »
Wow that is just Amazing.. and yea I think you did!  :o ;D
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« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2010, 06:28:16 pm »
Finally got my engine covers back back from the polishers so I can get going on the motor again. The valve cover is not great because of the age of the stains I guess. The road rash on the dyno cover is gone so the motor will look much better. I know the cases are TOO shiny but I like the look off highly polished alum. So, some progress today. of course after installing the starter motor I decided to take off some electricians tape on the wire to the solenoid and what should I find? Bare wire -dammit.
Some before and after pics.