Author Topic: Slow-mo abandoned NYC bike death watch (Read 25211 times)

dagersh · « **Reply #75 on:** February 24, 2010, 08:53:44 AM »

Vames,

I live just south of Union Square, but I keep the bikes Upstate - especially in the winter. BUt if you need any help, I will see what I can do.

Gersh

hoodellyhoo · « **Reply #76 on:** February 24, 2010, 09:28:01 AM »

As far as ITS is concerened, there is a fellow on another forum from WI and he just went though them. He says he payed $235 and got a Vermont plate and registration, but no title. He's peeved cause that's not good enough to get a title in WI so he basically wasted his money.

patricke9 · « **Reply #77 on:** February 24, 2010, 09:35:38 AM »

I used ITS for a '77 kawi I had. Took about a month & I got a Maryland plate & registration, sold the bike so I don't know what the new owner had to do to get it registered here in wa. state. The trick is to use them for bikes older than '73 or '74- that way it is old enough you will get a title & Bill of Sale, no plate. You can then take the title to the DMV to register it.

vames · « **Reply #78 on:** February 24, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »

Yeah for older than 73 or 74 they don't issue titles in NY -- just "transferrable registrations" so for my 1975 400f, I have a title, but my 1972 Dodge Dart has no title. If the CB350F has a build date of 11/72, would it be considered a 72 or a 73 model? There may be a big difference there from the DMV point of view.

mcpuffett · « **Reply #79 on:** February 24, 2010, 11:11:12 AM »

Good luck with the bike Vames, i would say its a 72 model

cheers Mick.

754 · « **Reply #80 on:** February 24, 2010, 09:30:25 PM »

73

dagersh · « **Reply #81 on:** February 24, 2010, 09:33:40 PM »

Its probably a '73. Which is a big PITA. Keep at it. This bike WILL be saved!

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #82 on:** February 24, 2010, 10:59:23 PM »

Most places i have taken bikes too over the years to register had no clue about bikes at all, tell them that the build date is the year model and the 73's were different and you will probably get away with it...

Mick

vames · « **Reply #83 on:** February 25, 2010, 04:26:59 AM »

The key here will be to stay away from the DMV branches here in the city and go to a little branch office upstate. The people there are actually nice and want to help.

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #84 on:** February 25, 2010, 05:34:37 AM »

Sorry to run in your parade buddy. By the pictures, it looks pretty much like my CB350twin did when I bought it. It ended up becoming a moneypit. There was a "point of no return" in which I had spent so much time and money, that the only way out was finishing the restoration.

If I were you, I would do the minimum -spend the minimum- to make it roadworthy and ride it like you stole it.

vames · « **Reply #85 on:** February 25, 2010, 06:57:05 AM »

It's actually snowing heavily on my parade today, so bundle up if you're gonna run in it.

Nobody said I was looking to restore this thing to new condition. All the parts are there and it's luckily not very rusty. It's a nice bike that sat directly in the elements for about four or five years in a parking lot under a tree. If there's no internal engine trauma (or even if there is) it probably won't take much to get it running. I believe in riding stock(ish) bikes that look obviously used and run very well -- I appreciate all the shiny cafes and choppers and restorations, but that's not me. (Maybe one day when I have a garage and don't live in a grimy city.)

It all depends on the title, of course. I heard some encouraging words from a guy who got an abandoned 1971 dodge and ended up with a clear conscience that it wasn't stolen and a current registration.

laser145 · « **Reply #86 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:22:45 AM »

One of my CB450's has no title. My father lives in Mississippi and I've heard getting a title is pretty easy there, I'm about to find out.

From what I understand you call an insurance agent, give them the bill of sale and VIN, then they do a search and issue a bonded title...

I can't find much official mention of this process on and MS gov. websites...but I'm going to send the documents down there and cross my fingers.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #87 on:** February 25, 2010, 09:29:18 AM »

I think his title stuff needs to go to something more like the 9/10th's rule. Nobody has titls for these old bikes it seems.

The one I have agreed to purchase was last tagged in NH. The owner is the original owner. He has no title. It is inoperable condition.

Simple, apply for a new title , right?

Forms on intenet, simple.
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/forms.html#title

Application for lost title , cool, perfect!.
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/forms/tdmv18.pdf

Instruction 3:
If the vehicle is 15 years old or older, it is exempt and noduplicate title can be issued.

WTF?

Grnrngr · « **Reply #88 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:00:07 PM »

That's kinda intreresting...will they give you a plate and registration without a title? or are you totally exempt from ever having to register it again???

faux fiddy · « **Reply #89 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »

I wish knew. I am trying to title it in another state. They tell me to to dothe abandoned property route, or get a court order from a judge.

This is something the legislatures need to be working on instead of whatever they are doing. I'm tired of things being so beauraucratic so as to be nearly impossible.

I have had an idea that you could purposely assemble a bike with the worst parts rusty forks, leaky tank,etc. whatever you can make to like a whole bike. Get it impounded, lt them do the title paperwork Then go buy it at auction for $10 bucks and get the $150 worth of paperwork an a title for the frame. Then re-assemble your running bike with title with correct frame numbers.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #90 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:00:04 PM »

AHA!

Maybe this is what it takes for New Hamshire. A report of sale or transfer of non-titled vehicle form.

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/forms/tdmv22a.pdf

i_m_jon · « **Reply #91 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Raul CB750K1 on February 25, 2010, 05:34:37 AM

If I were you, I would do the minimum -spend the minimum- to make it roadworthy and ride it like you stole it.

He kind of did

vames · « **Reply #92 on:** February 25, 2010, 03:10:26 PM »

Not going to argue. Taking stuff out of the trash is technically stealing, I suppose. But I'm clearing my conscience by knowing that I saved it from the trash man and that I'm going to great lengths to determine whether the person that abandoned it wants it back or whether it was stolen and the original owner wants it back.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #93 on:** February 25, 2010, 03:58:23 PM »

From one dope bust case:

Although Greenwood had hidden the trash from view by putting in opaque plastic bags and expected it to be on the street only a short time before it would be taken to the dump, the Court believed it to be “common knowledge” that garbage at the side of the street is “readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public.” Moreover, Greenwood had left the trash there expressly so that the trash collector, a stranger, could take it. Quoting Katz v. United States, the court concluded that "[w]hat a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection."

OldSchool_IsCool · « **Reply #94 on:** February 25, 2010, 06:10:11 PM »

I don't know, you have a rare opportunity here in that you have a vehicle that can't be traced back to you. Maybe you could get yourself a black cape and cowl and live out your Batman fantasies as you rid Gothem of crime!

Or you could use it to commit your own crimes. Even go so far as to paint one side red and the other green for conflicting eyewitness reports.

Seriously though, I hope the burocrazies are kind to you as you get it legal.

ksmith0034 · « **Reply #95 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:40:21 PM »

Quote from: vames on February 25, 2010, 03:10:26 PM

Not going to argue. Taking stuff out of the trash is technically stealing, I suppose. But I'm clearing my conscience by knowing that I saved it from the trash man and that I'm going to great lengths to determine whether the person that abandoned it wants it back or whether it was stolen and the original owner wants it back.

I applaud your honesty! You could probably put a price on the bike's value. Your integrity, however, is priceless.

JBMorse · « **Reply #96 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:45:08 PM »

Quote from: grnrngr on February 25, 2010, 01:00:07 PM

That's kinda intreresting...will they give you a plate and registration without a title? or are you totally exempt from ever having to register it again???

New Hampshire doesn't require titles for stuff that old. IMO, that's how it should be. A bill of sale will get you new registration and plate, which have to be renewed every year. We need inspections every year too.

Hush · « **Reply #97 on:** February 25, 2010, 09:29:20 PM »

Why can't you just drive over the border and reg your vehicles then drive back?
New Zealand being an island we have no borders with anyone so the same rules apply all over.
So if you reg your vehicle in another state, it doesn't count in your area?

MasterChief750 · « **Reply #98 on:** February 25, 2010, 10:25:26 PM »

thats a good point, we have a few boats registered in michigan where we live in ohio. might be worth looking into.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #99 on:** February 25, 2010, 10:30:05 PM »

In OZ you have to live in the state you register it in, it may be similar in the States.

Mick

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Author Topic: Slow-mo abandoned NYC bike death watch (Read 25211 times)