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Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« on: April 13, 2010, 12:53:42 PM »
I ordered a complete gasket set from parts n more that states use for 1969-1975 product id# 18-0112. They sent me a gasket set for the 1976-1978 CB750 SS Part # 18-0110. I wrote them saying I was returning them in order to get the correct set I ordered. This is what they replied:

"This is the same kit we are in the process of making changes so that theses gaskets are under the same part number."

Is this true? Are the gaskets completely identical or will I have problems down the line???
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 01:55:05 PM »
Well, I just looked at this:
1978 Head Gasket
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1978-honda-motorcycle-cb750k-cylinder-head/o/m9458sch400489
1973 Head Gasket
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1973-honda-motorcycle-cb750k3-cylinder-head-insulator/o/m9234sch399895

and see two different part numbers for the head gasket:
1978 GASKET, CYL HD  3834708-001 
1973 GASKET, CYL HD  3834709-001 

Can I get an Amen?

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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 03:16:28 PM »
So they are lieing to me.. >:(   My original thought of wrong product ID wrong part it correct. I was looking at this timeline but really didn't tell me much.

http://www.sohc4.net/index.php?q=content/cb750-timeline
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 04:32:57 PM »
I'm not familiar with the head gaskets to know what if any major differences there are,but i will say,after 25 or so years selling auto parts,the aftermarket manufacturers often redesign parts to work with more years of the same vehicle in order to lessen part numbers.perhaps this is the case here.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 05:43:30 PM »
I agree with dusterdude that they may have superseded the part and consolidated.  My search was fast and nasty, so they could be shooting you strait.  :-\

Not to get this thread moved to bad sellers, but my last experience with PNM was not so good.  I saw these pod filters  and in my defense I needed to get to the minimum order $.  Now, I know my carbs are 54mm, but when I called tech support they promised they would fit.  Silly rabbit.

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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 06:51:52 PM »
Ordering from Parts-n-More is just something to be avoided.
I ordered a mini speedo and tach from them a month ago. I live in Canada and from their website, secure online order processing is available to about any country, except Canada. There's a "Canadian Orders click here" button, which then generates several emails that ask you to email payment information like credit card #'s and expiry dates in separate emails "for security sake".
A month later my package arrives from a company I've never heard of, Northern Eagle Cycle Supply, and instead of gauges, there's a universal petcock and a set of steering neck bearings.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 06:59:20 PM »
Well im gonna try them out and see if I run into any snags. I am not doing a complete engine rebuild but I will be using a majority of these gaskets. I guess I should be fine.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 07:45:16 AM »
I have used pnm with good results. Everything I have gotten has worked without any mods. Hell, most of the stuff I got such as signal lights looked identical to the stock ones.
swellguy, has ANY place done alright by you? I mean pnm and cyclex you dont like yet many have gotten fair service from pnm and excellent service from cyclex.
Last time I checked, pnm was based IN canada. I am guessing it is something in the web software that requires the order to be emailed. But I have never waited more than 5 days to receive a shipment.

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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 08:41:03 AM »
 I got into the same deal, the set had two stickers one early, one later models, they did fit some what like they should, but not with out some resetting and I only used the side cover gaskets, not any of the internal,     

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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 09:28:41 AM »
Thanks for the heads up Northwestdrew! ;D

Ohh and dusterdude great name! People have been calling me Duster since I was 13 yrs old. Can't really get away from nicknames they stick to people like flys on sh*t.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 10:16:35 AM »
Well im gonna try them out and see if I run into any snags. I am not doing a complete engine rebuild but I will be using a majority of these gaskets. I guess I should be fine.
As far as CB750 head gaskets, the later ones have larger holes on certain studs to accommodate the newer ORings. So a later head gasket can be used on an earlier bike which doesn't have the ORings, the larger holes don't matter. But an early gasket cannot be used on a later engine, unless one is clever enough to enlarge those hole as many here have done. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this.

So as our bikes age, as mentioned, there will be consolidation of things like gasket kits.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010, 11:23:13 AM »
I'm due to receive my latest PnM purchase this afternoon.  My only complaint is with Wachovia charging me an international fee of 3% of my purchase price for having to convert American Dollars into Canuck Dollars.

Other than that, it's been good.  This is my 2nd purchase, shipping is fairly quick and cheap.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 11:29:40 AM »
swellguy, has ANY place done alright by you? I mean pnm and cyclex you dont like yet many have gotten fair service from pnm and excellent service from cyclex.
Parts-N-More won't process web orders from Canada. Must email credit card info in separate messages. I order a speedo and tach weeks and weeks ago. Box finally arrive yesterday from a company I've never heard of with no return address and contains a "universal" petcock that won't fit either Hondas or Harleys and set of neck bearings. I contact this previously unheard of company who says they'll forward my concerns to Parts-N-More.
I want to inquire about carb cleaning with Cycle-X and get a canned "Ken hates typing email" but feel free to call us on your dime. So I do but Ken is on the phone and can I call back in half an a hour which I do three more times. I have a rambling 10 minute conversation with him that sounds like things he must say 50 times a day about carbs, upgrading to electronic ignition, new coils, the Montreal Expos. A week later I decide I want to buy one of his electronic ignition packages. He has two packages and I send a simple email asking which one to specify in my order and I get, two days later, "Ken hates to type email" response.
Where I live there is at least two weeks from ordering something and getting it. When it's wrong, it's another two weeks without any assurance it will be any better.
I've worked in the Harley world for years and have found great service from lots and lots of shops who also now cater to metric, british markets. I started a project and thought enough to support some of the vendors whose names keep popping up here. Can't see anything wrong with posting my experiences with them.
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2010, 11:41:30 AM »
Yeah, as MCRider states, the head gasket has larger holes at the oil returns. Other than that, all you're going to get in the 76-78 gasket kit is maybe some extra seals you don't need. The rest is the same as 70-76 kit. If memory serves, please correct me if I'm forgetting something. :-\
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2010, 11:46:05 AM »
Another thought... If you live in Texas, order from the best in the state. Buzz knows his $#!T and has been doing CB750's since the stone age.

http://www.dynoman.net/engine/gaskets.html
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Re: Parts-n More Gasket screw up. Is this true??
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 01:12:49 PM »
Thanks for the link!
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