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Offline Cuts Crooked

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 12:54:22 PM »
Cuts Crooked, that is a Prestolite ignition.

Thanx David. That's what I thought, and others, but no one was positive. I know nothing about the prestolite ignition, or how it works, but I know it does what I need it too in spades! ;D leaving me to wonder why it's no longer around ???
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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2010, 01:51:59 PM »
I didn't realize this topic would cause such a fuss. I replied to a post about Accel coils the responce I gave was what I did to my bike and my results. I do not claim to be a wizard at mechanics or electronics. All I know is that my bike is running fine so far. I can't say enough about the great information I have gotten on this forum even after asking some pretty stupid questions. Mabe it would run better with a different setup but I am happy with what I have got going now.

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 04:58:26 PM »
I have to go with TwoTired on this one - even if he does live in Milpitas - and add that after you read a forum for a while, you get to know who actually knows something and who just sounds like they know something. It does seem like human nature to justify a decision by puffing up its results.
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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2010, 08:26:24 PM »
heres my boyer set up,i think this model is discontinued now mk III, im using the stock coils,it has an electronic box that does the advance curve,i like it 

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2010, 09:13:30 PM »
So Gordon, Mike Rieck, ofreen, Andy, and others sure seem to know what they are talking about lloyd. Are you sure you want to disparage them?
After all, you really have no proof either that points are better, just your opinion. So you can dismiss me if you want but you have no better leg to stand on either when it comes down to it.
I am trying to have a level conversation but you sure seem to want to talk down to me without even knowing me and really having no solid foundation. Do you have scientific that could be backed up by an independent lab?
But you know what, it does not really matter. You like points no matter what anything might tell you, others like electronic be it Magnetic or optical. So hey, use your points and be happy. Both work and both do the same essential thing and ultimately it is not worth pissing over like a couple of school kids. So why don't we just do the high road thing and just leave it as it simple disagreement of opinion.

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2010, 09:49:58 PM »
First it was the "stock boxers VS the pod-people", now it's the "electro's VS the point-heads"! Popcorn time!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2010, 10:33:54 PM »
I don't think anyone is disparaging anyone else, but I do know that if 'one' makes claims about an aftermarket ' upgrade' without the scientific evidence ( and a certain person happens to see your post  ;) ) you will be taken to task for your claims/opinion  ;D..... the very best I can glean from Dyna owners is an advantage in not having to fool with points ever again and if that gives you some 'jollies' then that's great.
Maybe it's about how your mind works......'points people' would say " I take pride in setting my points and getting the bike to fire spot-on ' ( and maintain the factory advance curve... oops, a whole other kettle of worms )... whereas Dyna guys are all about ' Great, no more points, I hate messing with them "......
B.T.W..... if I had a Dyna or other system, you can be sure I'd be checking it's op. with a strobe light every 1,000 miles anyway  ;D as there is nothing 'set and forget' about our old SOHC's .... IMO.
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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2010, 12:41:04 AM »
the point replacement systems stay put,i converted my car in 92 with a bosch unit,it stays exactly the same year after year,iv had the dizzy out over the years to remove the inlet manifold,and change a cam and what not,these units stay put,unless you can measure by eye the wear occurring at the drive gear,thus retarding it.

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2010, 06:47:24 AM »
B.T.W..... if I had a Dyna or other system, you can be sure I'd be checking it's op. with a strobe light every 1,000 miles anyway  ;D as there is nothing 'set and forget' about our old SOHC's .... IMO.

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 If you won't check the dwell/timing then what about: the cam chain, valve lash, check the spark plugs, clean lube and adjust the drive chain, do a carb synch, check the tire pressure, check the oil level, inspect the air filter, monitor the brake fluid, do an occasional caliper adjustment, do a rear drum adjustment, check the water in the battery,  change the engine oil, change the fork oil, grease the swingarm...
It is a proven fact that modifying a SOHC Honda in any way will bring on the apocalypse.

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2010, 07:26:19 AM »
B.T.W..... if I had a Dyna or other system, you can be sure I'd be checking it's op. with a strobe light every 1,000 miles anyway  ;D as there is nothing 'set and forget' about our old SOHC's .... IMO.

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 If you won't check the dwell/timing then what about: the cam chain, valve lash, check the spark plugs, clean lube and adjust the drive chain, do a carb synch, check the tire pressure, check the oil level, inspect the air filter, monitor the brake fluid, do an occasional caliper adjustment, do a rear drum adjustment, check the water in the battery,  change the engine oil, change the fork oil, grease the swingarm...

I do that all stuff, well  except fer the checking the water in the battery (I'm using a sealed battery) and of course I'm running pods, making checks of them easy....but I don't have to mess with points and condensers 8)

I'll get back to y'all in about 6000 more miles and let you know if the timing changed :D

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2010, 10:21:30 AM »
Well spanner, I wasnt making scientific claims, just stating what other members have said. Besides, tt didn't have any scientific proof either, he just yells louder :)
The other issue I brought up is that what hondaman's tests show and what people experience do not seem to mesh. Now I am certainly not saying he is wrong but it may be that testing applications do not show what is happening in a running engine but I am not going to worry about it. It seems this issue is more about what one prefers, not which is better. Both have pros and cons and neither is a perfect ignition anyways. :)

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Re: Need More Juice Due To Accel Coils
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2010, 02:34:10 AM »
That's basically what I was saying both have pros and cons.
I like my dyna some like their points so be it I think it was said best they both work use what you like and what u are willing to maintain!
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