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Offline captaincrash80

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2010, 03:13:09 PM »
I've got a picture similar to the first one in your last post, my '71 sitting new to a friend's CBR600. I love pictures like that  ;D

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #101 on: October 16, 2010, 09:16:25 PM »
Bike is in the shop .. had to order some new intake manifold boots for it .. was part of the rough running for sure ..

Was also thinking of replacing the clutch plates .. the bike always wants to lurch forward .. slams in gear and won't go into neutral while stopped. .. . I've found a ton of sites that have aftermarket clutch plates but none that carry honda ones ..

Called the stealership and they wanted like 200$ for the set or something ridiculous.. You guys have another source for these or do you know a comparable aftermarket?

Before you spend $$ on new plates, go into the Thoughts of Hondaman and look up the clutch hub mods for these 750s. It makes them work much better. Also, synthetic oils, like Mobil 1 15w50 Diesel, really smooth out the gearbox and clutch, especially if the bike was sitting a long time before you got it running.

Did you install a new O-ring in the countershaft bearing holder when you had it apart? those get brittle and shrink, reducing oil flow to the mainshaft in the tranny: this makes for stiff shifting, too.
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #102 on: October 17, 2010, 01:04:14 AM »
I haven't done either of those things but after some research as usual you're advice seems fantastic.

Is the o ring in question the one in this diagram under number 16?



Also when you do your hub mod do you drill every level of the steel plates ? can only see a few levels of plates in this picture ..



Thanks.

I'll try and post more pic's tomorrow of the bike .. its has a new tail light and 1k more miles on it !
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2010, 09:32:17 PM »
That's the right O-ring.  :D  They are typically rock-hard and flat, leaking quite a bit.

The holes: you only need to add 4 new holes. Also chamfer the holes that are already there (on the inside of the hub). The new holes should go into the deep part of the spline so a clutch plate's tooth does not rest against a weakened rib at the site.

On the Pre-K4 bikes, the existing holes were a bit smaller and rough inside, so they plugged easily with crud over time. Although the K4-later holes were smoother in the bores, the ones at the back wall of the hub often were too high, well above the oil level in the spinning hub. If yours are like either of these, smooth the holes with a fast drill bit, and cut down the "wall" that prevents oil from entering the ones at the back wall of the hub. I also cut little oil-capturing grooves in front of each hole (from having roadrace tracks starve the plates from too much RPM), but you'd have to look in my book to see a picture of that trick.  ;)
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #104 on: October 17, 2010, 10:41:23 PM »
Drilled it today .. Haven't ridden it much since but can already tell the difference ... the plates looked fine .. I'm so glad I didn't order new ones .. Thanks Hondaman for the $120 savings !

How do you recommend do it your self hole chamfering?

Here is a sample pattern of how I drilled it .. its not exact but seems right ? I made sure to drill where the steel disc where.



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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #105 on: October 17, 2010, 10:56:47 PM »
picture time .. here's some pictures of my new tail light .. its a honda 1000rr aftermarket light off ebay trimmed some and hung under the seat. You'll notice that I trimmed the fender bolt holes from the end of the frame and capped it to smooth things over. Just welded shut and painted with a rattle can.











This is a track stand I made with some scraps I had and some  $3 harbor freight wheels.



 Was thinking about getting a new tattoo .. :)

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2010, 12:58:30 AM »
This is a audio clip of the bike from 0 to indicated 100mph .. probably more like 80mph real life ... ... This is carpy's yosh replica exhaust.. I like.


had to put pictures to it to make it work as a video on youtube.
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« Reply #107 on: October 18, 2010, 12:51:03 PM »
finally got the video added .. its just pictures with the audio of the exhaust but there it is ! ..

was thinking of pulling the baffle material out of it and doing another run to see the noise difference.
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #108 on: October 18, 2010, 12:56:05 PM »
finally got the video added .. its just pictures with the audio of the exhaust but there it is ! ..

was thinking of pulling the baffle material out of it and doing another run to see the noise difference.
Sounded damn good to me man
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #109 on: October 18, 2010, 01:21:25 PM »
sounds eggcellent!!

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #110 on: October 20, 2010, 08:00:36 PM »
so today I replaced the o-rings in the oil pump and in the countershaft oiler. the difference is night and day. The shifting is smoother than ever. It goes right into neutral with no fighting at stop lights .. And my oil pressure is steady around 65lbs even at idle where it was close to 10lbs at idle before.

I'm going to do a full write up in the tips and tricks section on what all went down.
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #111 on: October 20, 2010, 08:35:41 PM »
Very cool glad u got that fixed
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #112 on: October 20, 2010, 08:57:33 PM »
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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2010, 09:22:53 PM »
so today I replaced the o-rings in the oil pump and in the countershaft oiler. the difference is night and day. The shifting is smoother than ever. It goes right into neutral with no fighting at stop lights .. And my oil pressure is steady around 65lbs even at idle where it was close to 10lbs at idle before.

I'm going to do a full write up in the tips and tricks section on what all went down.

Good job!
Don't you love it when a plan actually comes together?  :)
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2010, 06:12:13 AM »
Love the tattoo idea.  I'm going to get new ink next sat. 

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Re: 72 CB750 Cafe build
« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2010, 07:09:21 PM »
so today I replaced the o-rings in the oil pump and in the countershaft oiler. the difference is night and day. The shifting is smoother than ever. It goes right into neutral with no fighting at stop lights .. And my oil pressure is steady around 65lbs even at idle where it was close to 10lbs at idle before.

I'm going to do a full write up in the tips and tricks section on what all went down.

Wow thats good info. I am looking forward to reading about your experience in the tips section. Now I gotta order some o-rings before I put my oil pump back in.