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Re: FBI got there most wanted
« Reply #100 on: May 05, 2011, 08:27:13 AM »
I think the Seal team should get to split the reward that we offered.  What was it 25 million?  Small price to pay for that S.O.B. to be eradicated from this earth.

I think John Stewart had the perfect reaction to both 9/11 and bin laden's death. 

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Re: FBI got there most wanted
« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2011, 09:27:17 AM »
^^ thanks for that.

I actually missed that episode. John has certainly aged a bit in 10 years.
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« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2011, 10:05:27 AM »
Seal team 6's response to that would most likely be "Fidel, could you move a little to the right in front of the window and right behind that red dot?"

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« Reply #103 on: May 05, 2011, 03:20:32 PM »
From what I have seen on the news and read on msnbc, he wasnt actually bed ridden. Reports of him needing dialysis were overinflated. Apparently he only had the occasional kidney stone. He had his wife as a human shield and simply responded that he would not surrender, so she got one to the knee and when she dropped he got the ol chest head combo. There were weapons within arms reach. I dont think I would take a chance with someone like this. Especially with their baggy dress, or whatever, they wear. Just think about the number of times a police officer has shot an unarmed person because they suspected they might be armed. Err on the side of caution, etc.

Plus official reports are not released yet. So far all we really have are hearsay from officials and politicians. They probably wont be releasing any first hand reports for a while.

Its only been a few days, I dont think its wise to jump to conclusions yet. In my opinion it would be too dangerous to keep him alive. Just imagine the number of terrorist attacks that would going on once the terror cells found out he was being held.

And I agree with the administration that releasing photos of a high level target that has such a strong following is unwise until things have cooled off.
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Re: FBI got there most wanted
« Reply #104 on: May 05, 2011, 06:07:16 PM »
I have no problem with what was done. I have a feeling the fellow gut shot him first to give him some time to reflect on what was happening, and then the mercy shot. It was not justice, it was payback for the thousands of innocent people killed on 9/11 including the brave people who fought back and died fighting in Pa, and the people at the Pentagon. As one who saw the towers burn, I have no sympathy. Obama said we would kill him, we kept our promise. We have more important things to attend to then how some garbage was disposed of.

I agree, it is best to release no photographs, videos that would give people something to rally around. He is dead sitting at the bottom of the Ocean. Say Amen and close the door. 
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« Reply #105 on: May 05, 2011, 06:35:34 PM »
I have no problem with what was done. I have a feeling the fellow gut shot him first to give him some time to reflect on what was happening, and then the mercy shot. It was not justice, it was payback for the thousands of innocent people killed on 9/11 including the brave people who fought back and died fighting in Pa, and the people at the Pentagon. As one who saw the towers burn, I have no sympathy. Obama said we would kill him, we kept our promise. We have more important things to attend to then how some garbage was disposed of.

I agree, it is best to release no photographs, videos that would give people something to rally around. He is dead sitting at the bottom of the Ocean. Say Amen and close the door.

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« Reply #106 on: May 05, 2011, 06:37:21 PM »
This is good enough for me.

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« Reply #107 on: May 05, 2011, 07:17:03 PM »
Did Osama stop making threats against us or recant his roll in 9/11??  I see nothing wrong with what went down or how!  I wanted to see the pics but I dont now. Lets move on and Old School some more! Its war not sports. Rules have to be broken if this is to be controlled.
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« Reply #108 on: May 05, 2011, 09:31:53 PM »
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I have no problem with what was done. I have a feeling the fellow gut shot him first to give him some time to reflect on what was happening, and then the mercy shot. It was not justice, it was payback for the thousands of innocent people killed on 9/11

Lets not forget that this bloke and his cohorts have killed thousands world wide including the Bali Bombings, embassy bombings and plenty more vile deeds in the name of his extremist beliefs....
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Re: FBI got there most wanted
« Reply #109 on: May 06, 2011, 04:52:13 AM »
We didn't start all of this, Bin Laden did. When I think of the thousands who have lost their lives I don't see how anything different would've been done. I am proud of our guys.
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« Reply #110 on: May 06, 2011, 05:00:41 AM »
We didn't start all of this, Bin Laden did. When I think of the thousands who have lost their lives I don't see how anything different would've been done. I am proud of our guys.
The whole world is proud of these guys mate, and also your President who had the intestinal fortitude to follow it through.
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« Reply #111 on: May 06, 2011, 06:24:17 AM »
Also, in case someone does not really believe he is dead, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201
So, he is either dead...OR Al Qaeda is a smoke screen.
I think we can assume he is a gonner.

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« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2011, 07:12:22 AM »
Yep, looks like everyone's agreeing that he's dead, so that's a good thing. Interesting reasoning for killing him in that article too, I hadn't thought about it, but they're probably right that it would be hard to prove that Osama had any direct involvement in 9/11, apart from the fact that he was the spiritual leader of the organisation that claimed responsibility for the attacks.

That might seem incredible, but I can understand their reasoning, after the Bali bombing, the spritual leader of that terrorist organisation wasn't tried as it was considered that there was insufficient evidence to convict him.

Also I thought it was interesting that Pakistan supposedly were kept out of the loop that the op was going down, but someone in Pakistan definitely knew, because they "called off the dogs" when the Pakistan Air Force jets were scrambled to intercept the 2 Blackhawks (one of which crashed during the insertion) before they were shot down. Interesting stuff, I wonder who'll play the lead roles in the movie?  ;D
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« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2011, 07:35:21 AM »
Not a movie exactly, but found it ironic that the series "West Wing," which has been off the air for a number of years now, had a segment very much like the Bin Laden exercise, stealth helos, real-time viewing in Washington, etc. I guess it wasn't "fiction" after all.  ;)
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« Reply #114 on: May 06, 2011, 07:47:13 AM »
What part wasn't fiction Bob? Ha ha, just kidding, but it's that "Art imitates life - life imitates art" thing, did the government get any ideas for those publicity pics of Obama and Hillary et al sitting in the "situation room" watching the live feeds from the Seal's helmet cams, from watching that episode, do you think? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #115 on: May 06, 2011, 07:50:57 AM »
Don't know, but Hillary really needs someone to do something with her hairdo. She seems to be trying to relive her college days.  ;D
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« Reply #116 on: May 06, 2011, 07:53:43 AM »
And Obammy looks positively haggard, if he loses any more weight I reckon he could play Osama in the movie!  ;D
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« Reply #117 on: May 06, 2011, 08:41:49 AM »
Also I thought it was interesting that Pakistan supposedly were kept out of the loop that the op was going down, but someone in Pakistan definitely knew, because they "called off the dogs" when the Pakistan Air Force jets were scrambled to intercept the 2 Blackhawks (one of which crashed during the insertion) before they were shot down.
Terry, there were American F-16s flying high overhead in case everything went sour. The Pakistani Pilots are too smart for that. It could also be they figured he was not worth the potential problems interfering would cause. They could stand aside and denounce later.
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« Reply #118 on: May 06, 2011, 09:15:01 AM »
Terry, to your point about proving his involvement....they sure got it to stick for ol' Charlie Manson!

As for video (mentioned a couple of pages ago), there definitely was. Infact they have reported that in the situation room the inner circle watched the whole thing unfold.

From a societal stand point it was the wrong thing to do...having said that I don't mourn it for a second.

I guess it all depends from which side you view the argument....it's all about perspective.

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« Reply #119 on: May 06, 2011, 10:33:47 AM »

From a societal stand point it was the wrong thing to do

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« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2011, 01:41:48 PM »

From a societal stand point it was the wrong thing to do

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So was running two planes into the WTC towers...
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« Reply #121 on: May 06, 2011, 02:12:54 PM »
And bombing embassies.

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« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2011, 02:20:21 PM »
And gruesomely sawing off Daniel Pearl's head (in Karachi Pakistan).

Someone refresh my memory... did the Pakistani's get all up in arms and stage public protests when that happened?


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« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2011, 03:01:42 PM »

From a societal stand point it was the wrong thing to do

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So was running two planes into the WTC towers...

Agreed, but that wasn't done by any Government....Big difference....
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« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2011, 03:08:47 PM »
Terry, to your point about proving his involvement....they sure got it to stick for ol' Charlie Manson!

As for video (mentioned a couple of pages ago), there definitely was. Infact they have reported that in the situation room the inner circle watched the whole thing unfold.

From a societal stand point it was the wrong thing to do...having said that I don't mourn it for a second.

I guess it all depends from which side you view the argument....it's all about perspective.

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G'Day Dennis, you're right about Manson, but he was tried "back in the day" when the rules of evidence often bowed to public opinion, and society was happy not to ask questions as long as the government kept the streets safe. Nowadays it would be a lot tougher to convict him using the argument that he incited his followers to commit murder.

We'll have to assume that there was a live video feed of the op going down, as none of us here will ever see it, not that they couldn't just edit out the footage of Osama and his son getting iced in front of his other children, and his body being examined to determine that it was the real deal before being loaded on to the Blackhawk etc. Of course, the shocked looks on the faces of Obama and Hillary might have been just file footage of them looking at their personal ratings over the last two years, before this political godsend, of course.

As far as being "The wrong thing to do", I disagree. Osama had it coming and killing him was justified, considering what he'd done. He wouldn't have been too unhappy either, he was suffering from a debilitating disease which took him out of the front line and his relevance in the organisation was little more than that of spiritual leader, not field general. To die in combat would have been a dream come true for him, and he's now officially a martyr, which kicks arse in the muslim suburbs in heaven, apparently.

While I think the op was more slapstick than surgical, and the seal team 6 boys were lucky they didn't get their arses handed to them after losing any initiative that they might have had once their helicopter crashed on insertion, (what is it with helicopters failing on special operations missions anyway, remember the Iran Embassy fiasco?) there was more good news than there was bad, so for the US government's "spin doctors", it was a complete success.

It probably won't make much difference in the overall scheme of world terrorism, and I wouldn't be planning an overseas vacation for awhile, but it was a moral victory for the families of the victims of all of Osama's attacks, so that's a good thing. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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