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powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« on: May 25, 2011, 01:36:13 PM »
I'm working on a 76 750 that seems to have a powder coat or anodized dark gray coating on the head cover as well as side engine covers with the exception of the stator cover.  The PO started to remove the coating on the head cover and managed to get down to the aluminum pretty well in a few places so I figured it was just oxidized.  But when I began trying to remove it with a soft wire wheel it won't come off easily at all, and seems to be a purposeful coating. 

Does anyone know what I'm dealing with, and since it's pretty shot what the best way to remove it might be that would still allow polishing of the aluminum? 
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 08:22:14 PM »
Many years ago the clear coating on my 750 aluminum parts was looking pretty ratty but wasn't going to come off easily. I went to an auto paint store and they turned me on to some stuff called "Aircraft Remover". It took that coating off easily without hurting the metal. It might work for you too. I think mechanical removal might be a bit of a chore with all the nooks and crannies and whatnot.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 09:42:30 PM »
I wouldn't Google "Aircraft Remover" as Homeland Security might come knockin' the next day....................but "Aircraft Paint Stripper" might get some results.

The company that makes the stuff that I have been most happy with is "Mar-Hyde Tal Stripper" and is plenty aggressive. Follow the instructions, and see what happens.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 08:43:27 AM »
I'm pretty sure it was called Aircraft remover. Oh wait, some 3-piece suits are at the door.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 09:19:59 AM »
I think Aircraft Paint Stripper is what you are looking for....

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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 10:39:37 AM »
Carnation!! Already!? ;D
Either they're really fast, or you were already being watched.  8)

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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 01:20:38 PM »
Thanks all, I like the idea of a chemical stripper too - might save me a lot of work.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 01:29:06 PM »
When I worked in car shop, we used it to strip 66 Corvette, that stuff is nasty!  It works, though.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 11:27:42 AM »
I am sorry to report that it didn't work on this coating   :-\  It didn't even put a dent into whatever this is - in fact it just made it cleaner.  This has got to be a baked-on material of some sort, it's reasonably thick and about the only thing that removes it is abrasion.  I guess I'm in for some long evenings... 
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2011, 02:43:43 PM »
How about a picture?  Might help us identify the coating. 

They make liquid powder coat and anodize removers.  I've used the liquid powder coat remover and it worked great but I submerged the part in it.  Don't know if you could use it like aircraft stripper because it's less viscous.

Check www.eastwood.com for the removers.

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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2011, 05:46:12 PM »
if its annodizing i believe oven cleaner should take it off. ised to strip rc car parts of the annodizing using the stuff
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 07:29:59 PM »
Good rule of thumb(s) for stripping (not at a club). If aircraft *jumbawumba don't work, then oven cleaner will.


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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 04:32:19 AM »
+1 on oven cleaner for anondizing removal.  I've used it on bicycle parts many times.
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 12:38:39 PM »
Last FYI update - this is definitely a powder coat that will not come off with anything I can get hold of.  I've tried everything from zip-strip to Mal-Hyde Tal to oven cleaner and various organic solvents like acetone and MIBK.  This crap is tough.  I think at this point I'm stuck with roughing the surface and putting on another coat of paint to cover the areas that have been "cleaned". 
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 02:32:32 PM »
Grab a cover off the forum and redo it if you want the OEM look..its easiest...

Last FYI update - this is definitely a powder coat that will not come off with anything I can get hold of.  I've tried everything from zip-strip to Mal-Hyde Tal to oven cleaner and various organic solvents like acetone and MIBK.  This crap is tough.  I think at this point I'm stuck with roughing the surface and putting on another coat of paint to cover the areas that have been "cleaned". 
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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 12:26:19 PM »
If you are dealing with powder coat, then only abrasion will work, and it will require something spinning with some force since sand blasting doesn't do much to powder coat in any reasonable amount of time.  Once caveat is that some powder coat suppliers sell strippers that supposedly take it right off.  I don't have any direct experience with them, so i can't comment on how well they work.

If the surface is anodized, then you are dealing with something more than just a "paint".  Anodizing creates porous aluminum oxide on the surface of the part, and actually slightly down into the base metal.  Once the part has been anodized, it is rinsed and then stained.  The stain will seep into the pores and set.  It then has to be rinsed and sealed.  After that, you have anodized stain through a thin layer of oxidized aluminum on the surface of the material, and even down into the transition zone where there is a mix of oxidized and non-oxidized aluminum.  To take that stuff off, you to remove the entire layer that the stain has penetrated into, which means  you are taking away the surface layer of your part.

If you really to have an anodized coating on your parts, then it might be worth it to talk to an anodizing shop to see if they can strip the old stain, clean it up, and then re-anodize it and stain it to whatever color you want (including aluminum/silver).  I don't think it will cost as much as you think, and it is SUPER tough.  They might also just be able to strip the old stain and give you the piece clean and ready for paint.

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Re: powder coat or anodize on 76 750 covers?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 05:06:36 PM »
If you are dealing with powder coat, then only abrasion will work . . .
Not so (in my experience). I've used spray-on gasket remover. After about 15 mins., most everything has bubbled up and can be washed off with hot water and maybe a small scrub brush to get into smaller areas. Doing it a second time will likely gets most all the other stubborn spots. The underlying surface is not marred in anyways.
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