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gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« on: March 26, 2013, 09:39:12 pm »
Hi everyone,

I started this thread to post about my project CB750. It all started with this thread, http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=118999.0

As of today the bike is on my rack and I'm getting ready to evaluate what it needs and what to do with it. Ideally I would like to make it as stock as possible with maybe some tasteful mods that do not radically change the classic look of a CB750.

I have to be honest this bike is not in good shape. I don't think it's the best example to start with but I got a good deal on it so I'm going to attempt to set it right.

Here's some more pictures. Please feel free to make comments on what you see or don't see. Hopefully this is a start to something good!





Didn't notice this until it was on the lift but at least 2 spokes on the rear wheel are broken. Anyone know if the hub is original or Harley?




Pretty Jenky wiring here. I have a new repro harness but it doesn't look exactly the same on the plugs/terminals. Anyone run into this?

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2013, 09:48:13 pm »
Looks like 16 inch rim laced to stock hub.
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2013, 09:48:13 pm »



Is this airbox off an "F" model CB750? Maybe that's why it doesn't want to fit on the carbs?


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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2013, 10:27:17 pm »






I have no clue what this is

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2013, 10:32:46 pm »



This oil gauge has no lens...Not sure if that can be fixed. It does work though




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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2013, 10:42:13 pm »





Is this tail light correct for a KO??

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2013, 10:52:10 pm »


These gauges correct for a KO?




Data plate is odd as it has no VIN# stamped on it. Also has something covering the right top corner so I can't see the month/year


The vin# looks low though

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2013, 10:57:16 pm »


What's broken here on the lower triple tree?




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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 11:20:12 pm »


What's broken here on the lower triple tree?



That's the steering lock.
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 05:31:01 am »
Well the frame is from a sandcast.  What is the engine number?  Also the vin plate is correct.  The early K0/sandcast did not have a vin number or date of manufacture. 

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 05:48:38 am »
This should be interesting. Is it running or locked up ?........Gary
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 07:19:30 am »

I have no clue what this is

That would be your speedo cable. Hooks up  to a little gearbox on the front axle.

...either than or tach drive. There is a raised section on the right side of the valve cover where it hooks in.

*edit* I saw your pics in the main gallery and it is definitely your tach drive. *edit*

You've got a real mess on your hands there. ha

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 07:43:50 am »
Ooh looks like a fun basket case to bring back to life! I'll be watching! :D
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 07:57:54 am »
Be prepared to spend a hefty amount of coin on this project. Especially if you are going for a restoration. If its more of a rat bike survivor look, or cobbling different year parts together, that's much less financially draining. Sandcast parts are pricey.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 08:16:01 am »
Dont get discouraged just take your time and do what finances will allow. You can always improve after it becomes rideable.........Gary
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 09:34:58 am »
I would be interested in an opinion from the sandcast guys. Since this frame is inside the sandcast range, might it not be worth while to sell the frame to someone with a sandcast engine (I know there are a couple of people here that have them).

Given the premium that the very early bikes fetch I would think that the frame alone is worth more than he paid for the who bike.
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2013, 05:30:14 pm »
So is it titled wrong as a  70?
Engine number is early die cast for those that didn't see my first thread.

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2013, 06:17:36 pm »
Isn't the cutoff for the 69 year around mid 7000 so it would be a sandcast 70'

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2013, 10:55:20 pm »
Isn't the cutoff for the 69 year around mid 7000 so it would be a sandcast 70'

Frame or engine?

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 02:02:50 am »
This should be interesting. Is it running or locked up ?........Gary

Not locked up. It fired up for a second already but the wiring is screwed up bad. The starter stays on too only way to turn it off is with the key. Need to figure that out next then start again.

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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 07:36:27 am »
Disconect starter and kick it. You can bypass all electrical,by wiring from battery to coils, to s if the motor runs ok..
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2013, 10:04:28 am »
I think back in the day some states titled based on when the title was first issued vs when the vehicle was built. Once the title showed 1970 it stuck.
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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2013, 11:08:17 am »
Okay so that's good news I guess thanks

As far as the back wheel goes do I just need a NOS wheel, clean up the hub and relace?
The steering lock on that triple tree. Is it broken? How hard are those to find are they specific to KO bikes and sandcasts?


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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2013, 02:27:04 pm »
Since your original wiring has been *compromised* by the PO, perhaps using a temporary or shortcut wiring diagram will help get you up and running a bit sooner.
   http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/simple_wiring_diagram/simple_wiring_diagram.html
 
Later on, you can install your new repro wiring harness after getting sorted out and evaluated.


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Re: gravygrabber's 70 CB750 project
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2013, 02:57:22 pm »
You may be able to use your hub,check if it is a2 hole hub, if it is you may want to weld theareas wornby the spokes. To check, pull off brake plate look inside you will see two or four holes.. Approx 7/8 inch diameter..
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