Author Topic: Center Stand vs Side Stand  (Read 22410 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lone*X

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,126
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #100 on: June 27, 2012, 11:59:17 AM »
PC is definitely more durable than paint but I doubt it would make a lot of difference on the pads of the CS.  Just look at the surface damage done to the steel by the concrete surfaces.  PC is not harder than the steel.  It would abrade just like the paint would, maybe just a little slower.  Now to PC the CS is a good idea for long term appearance sake, it just wouldn't hold up on the bottom of the pads.
Lone*X  ( Don )

75 CB550K1  
VTX1800C for two up cruisin.
Several others have come and gone but whose keeping track.
52 years on two wheels and counting.....
"The best safety feature of any motorcycle is the one God put between your ears.  It's also the least utilized"

Offline 74750k4

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 459
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2012, 06:38:26 PM »
Anyone install the spring on the 750 Center Stand lately???  Yeah???  How?

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2012, 06:42:48 PM »
Anyone install the spring on the 750 Center Stand lately???  Yeah???  How?
Yeah. I struggled, then it came to me. Piece of cake. Not necessary but hlps if you shove a shim in between each spring coil, like a dime, or slivers of flashing. This will extend the length of the spring.

Then put the hook and spring on. Then feed in the pivot pin, I prefer from the left. As you feed it in, lever the stand up into position. Still a struggle but it works.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline fmctm1sw

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,042
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #103 on: September 24, 2012, 07:00:18 AM »
Anyone install the spring on the 750 Center Stand lately???  Yeah???  How?
Yeah. I struggled, then it came to me. Piece of cake. Not necessary but hlps if you shove a shim in between each spring coil, like a dime, or slivers of flashing. This will extend the length of the spring.

Then put the hook and spring on. Then feed in the pivot pin, I prefer from the left. As you feed it in, lever the stand up into position. Still a struggle but it works.

+1 on putting something between the coils.  I put a cheap Home Depot spring inside the centerstand spring.  Worked great.

Edit:  Oh and side stand for me unless I'm...

1]  Checking the oil
2]  Tightening the chain
3]  Doing other maintenance
4]  Saving space in the garage
« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 07:01:57 AM by fmctm1sw »
Quote from: 754
Dude is that a tire ? or an O-ring..??

Quote from: inkscars
This is not a pod thread
This is not a #$%* on my vacuum gauges thread
This is a help or GTFO thread.

1973 CB350F
1973 CB350G
1975 CB550K
1983 GL650I
1973 CB750K3 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92888.0)
1984 Kawasaki KLT-250 (AKA 3 wheeler of death)
1994 Honda TRX300
1999 Honda TRX250

Offline liPPy

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 253
  • 1978 cb750k
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #104 on: September 24, 2012, 07:13:56 AM »
Anyone install the spring on the 750 Center Stand lately???  Yeah???  How?

I fannied about for an hour bending a spring on a vice & slotting coins between the coils without success. I could never get the spring long enough and trying to balance the coins on either side of the spring to keep the whole straight was not easy.

I eventually went to Autozone, bought a brake spring installer like this and had the job done in about 90 seconds: http://www.amazon.com/JEGS-Performance-Products-Spring-Installer/dp/B007VR6ZUO

Offline seanbarney41

  • not really that much younger than an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,845
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #105 on: September 24, 2012, 06:50:11 PM »
Centerstand?  nope, I keep it on the tool shelf.  It gets put on when the tools come out.  Why are you guys doing all this parking anyway?...I just keep riding ;D
If it works good, it looks good...

Offline trueblue

  • A person who has had many interesting experiences, some of which are true, is known as an
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,124
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #106 on: September 25, 2012, 12:41:07 AM »
I hook the spring up before I install the pivot tube, it slips straight in ;)
1979 CB650Z
Nothing can be idiot proofed, the world keeps producing better idiots.
Electronic Guages for your SOHC 4

Offline faux fiddy

  • Just becaus I'm the second post on the pissed off thread doesn't mean I'm an
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,812
  • bike in a box
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #107 on: September 25, 2012, 01:02:05 AM »
I didn't read but the first couple pages so if this is redundant It's because of that.

Center stand is more stable. Center stand takes up less room to park, in or outside.

And if you ever had a tank with pin holes in it, they   develop way  more often where the water settles on the low (kickstand) side.
^^^^^^^/l^^^^^^^^^^^^^^/l^^^
. . ______/ l_________________/  l
<'  '  '   '  o .  . . . . . . .................(
 ' VVVVV'   ')))))____>-''''''''''''''''''\  l
' . vvvv_   -              -                 \/

Offline Deltarider

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,132
  • ... but some animals are more equal than others.
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #108 on: September 25, 2012, 05:31:57 AM »
Geee, this is an interesting thread.
Now, not to guide it into the mother of all debates, but didn't Honda built the heads so that at least some oil remains near the camshaft when parked on the CS to reduce cold start wear? I remember having read that the 350 Four head was designed that way.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 05:33:36 AM by Deltarider »
CB500K2-ED Excel black
"There is enough for everyone's need but not enough for anybody's greed."

Offline fmctm1sw

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,042
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #109 on: September 25, 2012, 06:00:00 AM »
Geee, this is an interesting thread.
Now, not to guide it into the mother of all debates, but didn't Honda built the heads so that at least some oil remains near the camshaft when parked on the CS to reduce cold start wear? I remember having read that the 350 Four head was designed that way.

Yes sir.  Last picture in this post:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=55856.msg601603#msg601603  It's a 400f head but the 350 is the same way.
Quote from: 754
Dude is that a tire ? or an O-ring..??

Quote from: inkscars
This is not a pod thread
This is not a #$%* on my vacuum gauges thread
This is a help or GTFO thread.

1973 CB350F
1973 CB350G
1975 CB550K
1983 GL650I
1973 CB750K3 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92888.0)
1984 Kawasaki KLT-250 (AKA 3 wheeler of death)
1994 Honda TRX300
1999 Honda TRX250

Offline mono

  • Definitely no
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,271
  • 1975 Honda CB550, 1978 CB750K (in progress)
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #110 on: September 25, 2012, 07:37:16 AM »
i removed my center stand when i went with a right-side 4-1 exhaust.  kinda had to, since the center stand stop was connected to the left side exhaust.  works fine that way, and when it's going to be parked for a while i just burn off the fuel in the carbs. 

in the winter i am going to drain/rinse my tank and store it inside.  last winter i put a bunch of silica packets in it, sealed it in a big plastic bag, and kept it in the basement to avoid temp fluctuations causing condensation.

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #111 on: September 25, 2012, 08:33:08 AM »
i removed my center stand when i went with a right-side 4-1 exhaust.  kinda had to, since the center stand stop was connected to the left side exhaust.  works fine that way, and when it's going to be parked for a while i just burn off the fuel in the carbs. 

in the winter i am going to drain/rinse my tank and store it inside.  last winter i put a bunch of silica packets in it, sealed it in a big plastic bag, and kept it in the basement to avoid temp fluctuations causing condensation.
Most 4-1s provide a centerstand stop bracket. They usually get lost when the pipe changes hands.  A simple "L" shaped bracket hanging from a rear footpeg mount, often on the right side with the pipe.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline mono

  • Definitely no
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,271
  • 1975 Honda CB550, 1978 CB750K (in progress)
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #112 on: September 25, 2012, 04:21:05 PM »
i bought a new MAC 4-1, all it came with was a hanger bracket  :'(  it's OK though because i'm not heavy enough to get it to rock back on the center by myself....  yeah yeah i'm a wuss... lol

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #113 on: September 25, 2012, 04:49:05 PM »
i bought a new MAC 4-1, all it came with was a hanger bracket  :'(  it's OK though because i'm not heavy enough to get it to rock back on the center by myself....  yeah yeah i'm a wuss... lol
Curious. I'd a thunk the MAC would've had the CS stop.

AS to raising it on the CS, its all technique, several threads on the issue. Very little strength or weight involved.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline HonderCB

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 411
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #114 on: September 25, 2012, 04:56:16 PM »
I didn't read but the first couple pages so if this is redundant It's because of that.

Center stand is more stable. Center stand takes up less room to park, in or outside.

And if you ever had a tank with pin holes in it, they   develop way  more often where the water settles on the low (kickstand) side.

true.  a PO of my bike must have not liked the CS because my tank developed many pin holes on the kick stand side at the bottom, nothing a caswell kit couldnt fix
-Scott, just a F'er from Illinois-

77' CB750F
81' CB650C - SOLD

Offline JimS63

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 57
Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #115 on: September 25, 2012, 09:45:37 PM »
I use the SS most of time during the summer months, and the CS during the rainy season or when I know it will be parked for a while.
1977 Honda CB750a Hondamatic