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Offline Uncle Ernie

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2006, 04:46:38 AM »
Geeto, I looked at a 350 tank and it didn't look like it would fit without major surgery- didn't look like it was wide enough in the back to fit the 400 frame.  Or is that just the 400?  Sometmes I forget you guys are talking about the 750s...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2006, 06:38:27 AM »
Those tanks from Benji are killer, just kinda pricey for a guy who spent almost the same
amount of $$ for the entire bike... :o

Maybe one day... ;D
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2006, 07:04:33 AM »
I got this one off ebay. Great tank fits almost perfectly. Just weld on some "c" shaped metal to aline with the rubber tank mounts and fit in a petcock and you are ready to roll. I waited till he put one up for auction and got it for 85 or 90 shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wards-Fuel-Tank-260-or-360-Orange-Or-Yellow_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35609QQihZ002QQitemZ4535086465QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

How long is that tank? It looks pretty nice.
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2006, 07:28:57 AM »
here's how mine came out - this pic is from the primer stage - it's painted now, but i'm not running it yet - got to do the seat next/first...

this is a 76 SS tank...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2006, 07:34:46 AM »



       cbj,   
               That really is a tough look you've got going there with the tank. Anxious to see what you're
         doing with the seat too. Keep us posted, okay?

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2006, 07:51:24 AM »
CBJ -->
That tank looks killer.
We will def. be talking over the winter...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2006, 08:02:09 AM »
do you have a tank picked out already - a spare?
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2006, 08:18:25 AM »
I was gonna send you my tank over the winter, but I might try and find
another tank. Can never have too many... ;D
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2006, 08:45:07 AM »
Uncle Ernie:

The 350 and 400 frames are identical except for the exhaust brackets.  I've seen guys put 400 tanks on 350s and vice versa.

I posted a link a while ago where some guy shoehorned a 350F tank onto a 750K8 cafe!!  Looked a bit short, but it seemed to fit ok.

Regarding the 500/550 frame, the 400 has the single "spine" while the 550 has the dual tubes heading back like the 750.  I doubt a 400 tank would fit a 550 by just dropping on, but if someone can make a 350 tank fit a 750, I'm sure it can be done.  Just hammer out the underside to clear the frame tubes, even though the area hammered out for the twin coils already gives a lot of the clearance needed.

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2006, 08:49:32 AM »

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How long is that tank? It looks pretty nice.

The overall; length at the longest part is 22.50" The width at the seat is 7.25 " the width at the widest portion near the pet cock fills is 10.25" the tank is the length through the tunnel "measured upside down at the innermost point in the top to the seat is 19.75" sitting on the table the highest point just at the cap base is 8.50"

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2006, 09:32:11 AM »

The overall; length at the longest part is 22.50" The width at the seat is 7.25 " the width at the widest portion near the pet cock fills is 10.25" the tank is the length through the tunnel "measured upside down at the innermost point in the top to the seat is 19.75" sitting on the table the highest point just at the cap base is 8.50"

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2006, 09:35:51 AM »
here's a series comparing the SS750 with the stock 750 tank - i have others if there is something else you need to see...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2006, 09:36:31 AM »
mo...

you can see that the rear mounting brackets are in the same position reletive to the front mounts - the rear of the SS tank "cowls" over the bracket and a shorter seat is req'd...that's why i don't have mine set up yet - as JP put it fiberglassing is a #$%* - i'm gonna use paulages method when it comes time.

junkie out...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2006, 11:42:48 AM »
Look at Junkie with all the pics.. ;D
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2006, 11:44:43 AM »
 ;D

i figured out how to "compress" them with microsoft's new image viewer...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2006, 08:08:30 PM »
Groovie- Benjie said he can make a tank for a 500. He doesn't have a 400 frame to go from. I have a 400, so I was wondering if a 500 tank might fit on a 400 frame.
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2006, 08:37:42 PM »
Groovie- Benjie said he can make a tank for a 500. He doesn't have a 400 frame to go from. I have a 400, so I was wondering if a 500 tank might fit on a 400 frame.

It should because the 400 frame backbone shoud be narrower.  I would check the clearances of the dual coils though, because they DO stick out.

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2006, 12:32:48 AM »
Just a tip before taking a hammer to the side of a tank-check for bondo first. I hit the right side of mine, and it caved in and curved perfectly. 4 hits, tops. With a little more confidence, I whacked the left side. It had a 3" thick layer of bondo, that caved in the entire side of the tank. Bummer.
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2006, 05:50:34 AM »
Here are some closer shots of my tank after the surgery


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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2006, 08:13:52 AM »
that looks nice, too - one thing that bothers me about the sort of halfway approach a lot of us are taking is that lower seam edge - when you don't get into that seam it remains a mainly cosmetic mod.

i find that as pleased as i am with the outcome of my tank project, i'm still annoyed by the fact that my knees contact that seam edge...

until i'm set up to do a full tank fabrication i don't see any way around this problem...
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2006, 09:29:07 AM »
Don't worry junkie , you will have my tank over the winter to achieve your perfect knee
inserts on... ;D
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2006, 10:13:52 AM »
I left the seams to keep the lines from the seat matching.  The other tanks I have built, I went in to the seam about 1-2 inches on either sides and was not happy with how they lined up.  Or.....I just couldnt find a seat that I liked with that type of tank.

Besides at 5'8" my knees barely make it to the tank!

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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2006, 10:35:17 AM »
i'm gonna build my seat to match or be just under the width...

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Besides at 5'8" my knees barely make it to the tank!

 :D - count your blessings - my the seam hits me right below the side of my kneecap  :-\
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2006, 03:11:29 AM »
Oh oh..... Now you've done it. I want a new tank myself now......

I was thinking to get this tank from an old ducati:
http://www.marktplaats.nl/index.php?url=http%3A//koopjes.marktplaats.nl/motoren_en_brommers/onderdelen_oldtimers/36776036.html%3Freturn%3DeJwlytEKwyAMheF3KbSXOpW1I0VG9yayFRSdhhpYt7F3X6Q3%252Bb8DcaDgG%252BA0V1DmDF1d3Xb3sydCkDIWXLN4ui0SJueoipzk8SLQ43VPVg2Paqn0ZlG9uSU%252ByzhdGjVzUmMjMT8BG3dm6%252FtofHHJ5cguNfDQA1rdzb8%252FvI0ukA%253D%253D%26df%3D1

You think it will look good on a 550f if i change the seat too? I fear it might be a little too narrow in the front .
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Re: Cafe Tanks
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2006, 07:15:05 AM »
Oh oh..... Now you've done it. I want a new tank myself now......

I was thinking to get this tank from an old ducati:
http://www.marktplaats.nl/index.php?url=http%3A//koopjes.marktplaats.nl/motoren_en_brommers/onderdelen_oldtimers/36776036.html%3Freturn%3DeJwlytEKwyAMheF3KbSXOpW1I0VG9yayFRSdhhpYt7F3X6Q3%252Bb8DcaDgG%252BA0V1DmDF1d3Xb3sydCkDIWXLN4ui0SJueoipzk8SLQ43VPVg2Paqn0ZlG9uSU%252ByzhdGjVzUmMjMT8BG3dm6%252FtofHHJ5cguNfDQA1rdzb8%252FvI0ukA%253D%253D%26df%3D1

You think it will look good on a 550f if i change the seat too? I fear it might be a little too narrow in the front .

         That is a sharp looking tank but, how much would it set you back?

          And my next question is "My God, hopw long did it take you to put that link in?"

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