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"The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« on: January 01, 2014, 03:25:23 PM »
Well Gentlemen today being the first day of the New Year, i figured would be a good a time as any to start my Project Thread and the get the ball rolling. My name is Tyler, I'm 19 years old and i live in Baltimore Maryland, in College studying Criminal Justice. Theres a few things i love in this world, My Toyota 4x4, Mountain Dew, Camping, The Great Outdoors, and my Honda Cb.  Fairly new to the vintage scene but not to Hondas. I have had this 73 350f since last February and now this winter i want to give her a "FaceLift"   When i first got her she had 20,000 on the clock, which now sits at 23,000.  Bought her running well and in my truck for 1200$


Me and my previous Honda about 2 years Ago


The day i brought her home!


My two favorite things:


And because the sun was hitting her just right


To make a long story short, my parents still own the house i grew up in, up until middle school when we moved 2 miles away. Now being older and needing a place to work they said i could use the cement floor basement and set up a workshop because i just store the bike in my shed and need a place to really do some work indoors.  I have built 2 workbenches, one for working, and one heavy duty bench as a Bike Table because I'm not spending money on a lift.  So far the Basement looks like this:


Nothing spectacular, but when the only other place is a cold driveway, Its absolutely perfect.  I think of it as my "Mini Man-cave"

And this was today, the beginnings of a long winter project, Tank, Seat, Pipes Removed:


Believe it or not, i was lucky enough to purchase this bike with original matching numbers 4 Into 4 exhaust.  They do have some rot but not to bad,  i have a excellent welder who says he thinks he can fix it for me!   She also has new Avon Road Tires and a new Oil Pressure Sending Unit.  It came with a extra Speedo, so now with the purchase of a good looking set, i have 3 extras to work with, ( We will get to that later)

My hopes are to have this bike finished by about April or May.
Here are my plans-Which are Likely to Change along the way:

Tank and Side covers Repainted( i have 2 sets of side covers)
3000 mile Tune Up
New NGk plug wires
New Points and Coils ( Honda Tune-Up Kit )
Cb 400f Handlebars for a more "Sporty Look"
Paint some parts black-Rocker Cover, Levers, Valve Covers,  Maybe a few more??
New Cables all around
I will be sending the carbs to a member on here to do a number on them, should i get bigger jets installed?
Polish Basically Everything
I already have a new chain and front and rear sprocket to put on, Gear Ratio for highway riding ( Baltimore Beltway 60-70 mph) But undecided on Changing The Gear Ratio as some have told me its a bad idea.
Took off front turn signals, so i would like some smaller good looking Rear Signals-Confused on if LEDs work or not??
New Air Filter ( what is a good brand?? K and N?? )
Purchased new Tach and Speedo from a member here in great condition because mine were way to wobbly and sun faded
Different style Mirrors that do not Vibrate
Hopefully find a smaller taillight and bracket, because i don't think the stock one flows very well honestly.

Thats it for now, my winter class starts tomorrow but i will be SURE to update as this progresses.  This will be my first "Complete Restoration" so I'm sure i will be asking many questions along the way.  I have basically been living on a few of the great 350f builds on here such as HoodellyHoo, and Matt350f and its been a great inspiration.

PLEASE give Input, Ideas, Helpful Links, Thoughts or anything you have to say, because i honestly wouldn't  have the guts to do this without being a member on this site, and would appreciate ANY input you all might have!
« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 12:09:06 PM by 2strokeTRush »
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 08:12:00 PM »
Good looking bike, Tyler.  I wish my 16-year-old nephew was as in to motorcycles as you are.  I think you have a very reasonable facelift goal. 

I'm not sure about sprocket changes for the 350F, since I've never owned one.  I know that stock 350's a quite buzzy at freeway/highway speeds, so changing sprockets might give you more high end (overdrive).
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 08:45:00 PM »
Good looking bike, Tyler.  I wish my 16-year-old nephew was as in to motorcycles as you are.  I think you have a very reasonable facelift goal. 

I'm not sure about sprocket changes for the 350F, since I've never owned one.  I know that stock 350's a quite buzzy at freeway/highway speeds, so changing sprockets might give you more high end (overdrive).
Thank You!  The gear ratio change would supposedly bring my Rpm down to 5k at 60mph, as apposed to 6k at 60mph.  But with a ( Overdrive ) gear ratio change there would be much left on tap if i needed to get out and go i assume.
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 11:14:25 PM »
Good looking bike, Tyler.  I wish my 16-year-old nephew was as in to motorcycles as you are.  I think you have a very reasonable facelift goal. 

I'm not sure about sprocket changes for the 350F, since I've never owned one.  I know that stock 350's a quite buzzy at freeway/highway speeds, so changing sprockets might give you more high end (overdrive).
Thank You!  The gear ratio change would supposedly bring my Rpm down to 5k at 60mph, as apposed to 6k at 60mph.  But with a ( Overdrive ) gear ratio change there would be much left on tap if i needed to get out and go i assume.
Changing the actual gears versus the sprocket is beyond my knowledge. I'll let someone else weigh in.
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2014, 02:10:15 PM »
Good looking bike, Tyler.  I wish my 16-year-old nephew was as in to motorcycles as you are.  I think you have a very reasonable facelift goal. 

I'm not sure about sprocket changes for the 350F, since I've never owned one.  I know that stock 350's a quite buzzy at freeway/highway speeds, so changing sprockets might give you more high end (overdrive).
Thank You!  The gear ratio change would supposedly bring my Rpm down to 5k at 60mph, as apposed to 6k at 60mph.  But with a ( Overdrive ) gear ratio change there would be much left on tap if i needed to get out and go i assume.
Changing the actual gears versus the sprocket is beyond my knowledge. I'll let someone else weigh in.
Thats what i am considering changing, the front and rear sprocket
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2014, 02:40:07 PM »
unless you plan on swapping the tranny out for a 400f tranny, leave the guts alone. i dropped 4 teeth on my rear sprocket in order to help with the high rpms on main roads. you will find that it drops down about a thousand rpm at 60 mph but the power reduces alot. it basically turns your bike into a 4 speed with an overdrive that accelerates like a snail in top gear. granted, i was 6'2 and 200 lbs, and you look smaller than that so the power issue may not be a problem for you.

either drop some teeth on the rear or add one on the front
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2014, 02:43:42 PM »
sell off those 4 into 4 pipes to someone and get a 4 into 1 and some pod filters and re-jet it. that will help offset the gearing change a little and look sportier which seems like you are doing

if those are original pipes and are in good shape, it would be a shame to ruin them and the right person will buy them at a price that will help you fund your other ideas for the bike
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2014, 02:56:45 PM »
Nice Ride.  '72 350F was my first CB....  and those pipes, if not rusted can bring a pretty penny.     
Shorter bars, like euro or 400F bars, really increase leverage, and dont sacrifice riding position too much.  a good upgrade.
 


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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 07:07:03 AM »
sell off those 4 into 4 pipes to someone and get a 4 into 1 and some pod filters and re-jet it. that will help offset the gearing change a little and look sportier which seems like you are doing

if those are original pipes and are in good shape, it would be a shame to ruin them and the right person will buy them at a price that will help you fund your other ideas for the bike
i have thought about selling them, but i still think i will hold on to them, As far as the pods go i have heard week long horror stories about getting them set up just right.
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2014, 07:07:43 AM »
Nice Ride.  '72 350F was my first CB....  and those pipes, if not rusted can bring a pretty penny.     
Shorter bars, like euro or 400F bars, really increase leverage, and dont sacrifice riding position too much.  a good upgrade.

And thank you, i hope it all comes together nicely
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2014, 07:12:08 AM »
k&n recomended a 10% increase in main jet size, raising the needle one position, adjusting the air screw a little and getting it re-synced. i never had issues with mine
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2014, 07:37:24 AM »
k&n recomended a 10% increase in main jet size, raising the needle one position, adjusting the air screw a little and getting it re-synced. i never had issues with mine

Thank you finally some Information! And have you noticed any power increase?
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2014, 08:40:06 AM »
like i said, it helped compensate for the gearing change
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2014, 09:31:03 PM »
like i said, it helped compensate for the gearing change
Thanks for the info!
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 06:24:42 AM »
Well i had a little bit of time free so i went down to the Man-Cave and started fooling around with my new gauges a little bit.  I don't have the bike downstairs yet so right now i have to keep myself busy with little tasks.  I just got these gauges from a member here for steal and they look great, However i have noticed one of the mounting threads is missing.  so i have no way to attach it to the bracket on the bike.

My question is, could i simply open the gauges up and solder a piece of thread to the back?  I do have 2 working gauges i can use for parts, as well as one already disassembled.  Any ideas??
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2014, 08:17:45 AM »
If the 350 gauges are similar to the 750, those are bolts that are used to mount to the bracket.
Simply disassemble the backing of your old gauge and use that bolt on the "new one". 
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2014, 08:51:28 AM »
If the 350 gauges are similar to the 750, those are bolts that are used to mount to the bracket.
Simply disassemble the backing of your old gauge and use that bolt on the "new one".
Thank you Sir! I was hoping I would hear from you on here sometime!  Seems like everywhere I look on here you have some great knowledge to be told!
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 10:17:16 AM »
If the 350 gauges are similar to the 750, those are bolts that are used to mount to the bracket.
Simply disassemble the backing of your old gauge and use that bolt on the "new one".
Thank you Sir! I was hoping I would hear from you on here sometime!  Seems like everywhere I look on here you have some great knowledge to be told!


I found you.  I've never had a 350F, so don't know how much I can add to your build.

I do have a 350, but it's a two stroke twin RD350....a world of difference than your bike. 
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 11:31:27 AM »
If the 350 gauges are similar to the 750, those are bolts that are used to mount to the bracket.
Simply disassemble the backing of your old gauge and use that bolt on the "new one".
Thank you Sir! I was hoping I would hear from you on here sometime!  Seems like everywhere I look on here you have some great knowledge to be told!


I found you.  I've never had a 350F, so don't know how much I can add to your build.

I do have a 350, but it's a two stroke twin RD350....a world of difference than your bike.

IM sure i will find something for you to help with!
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2014, 11:33:17 AM »
And I forgot to put this in before, but heres a video i made when i first got her and "Didn't Know Nothin "
Then i discovered this site:)

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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 11:06:54 AM »
Well i had a little bit of time free so i went down to the Man-Cave and started fooling around with my new gauges a little bit.  I don't have the bike downstairs yet so right now i have to keep myself busy with little tasks.  I just got these gauges from a member here for steal and they look great, However i have noticed one of the mounting threads is missing.  so i have no way to attach it to the bracket on the bike.

My question is, could i simply open the gauges up and solder a piece of thread to the back?  I do have 2 working gauges i can use for parts, as well as one already disassembled.  Any ideas??


Haha oops sorry ya had to cannibalize the bolt for another project.

Glad they are working out for you.
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 08:05:14 PM »
Well i had a little bit of time free so i went down to the Man-Cave and started fooling around with my new gauges a little bit.  I don't have the bike downstairs yet so right now i have to keep myself busy with little tasks.  I just got these gauges from a member here for steal and they look great, However i have noticed one of the mounting threads is missing.  so i have no way to attach it to the bracket on the bike.

My question is, could i simply open the gauges up and solder a piece of thread to the back?  I do have 2 working gauges i can use for parts, as well as one already disassembled.  Any ideas??


Haha oops sorry ya had to cannibalize the bolt for another project.

Glad they are working out for you.

Not a problem lol  Easy fix right?? While i have them open should I Oil the moving parts or something?
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2014, 04:06:40 PM »
Ugh well i had planned to bring the bike down today, but Baltimore was 10 Degrees today so i told some guys who had planned to help me we could wait.  But i did do some organizing around the workplace in preparation for when we actually can bring her down!


Here are some pictures of the rot on my pipes, guess its worse then i thought:(




Cant wait to bring the bike down and begin to tear into it even more!  Keep the helpful hints coming!
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2014, 11:34:36 AM »
Those pipes look a little "worse for wear" than when they were on the bike... :o
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Re: "The Basement Build!" 1973 Cb350F
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2014, 09:06:12 PM »
Those pipes look a little "worse for wear" than when they were on the bike... :o
Honestly the pictures make them look worse. But I'm still going to try and salvage them.
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