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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2014, 10:52:08 PM »
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from my experience the amount of wildlife domestic cats kill is greatly exaggerated
they both have bells on their necks and still manage to kill ;D :o

Bells just make them more efficient hunters.
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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2014, 11:29:04 PM »
My grey tabby was feral at one time so if he catches anything it does not survive but the other two seldom kill anything they catch and I have no problem getting the victim free and letting them loose across the street in the woods.

Feral cats I am sure take a larger toll but... killing or trapping does not work as others will just move in to fill the void.
It would seem by your own statements about your domesticated cats, that without your life saving efforts, your friendly cats would kill all their little playmates?

"Killing" feral animals is the only productive measure at reducing their population or the damage they inflict. Look at Texas, Florida and many other southern states and the problem with feral pigs. Look at Australia and the Cane Toad, the Donkey in the Outback, the Rock python in South Florida. You really do need to be better informed on the unrestricted destruction that invasive species do to an environment where there is no natural predator to a species to keep environmental balance.

I could list examples endlessly of land animals, then move to aquatic animals... It's not overstated, it's under-managed.

Exactly, introduced species, we don't have too much trouble with donkeys Cal but Camels are a totally different story, the cane toad is the worst of the lot but the crows have worked out a way of eating out their stomaches by turning them on their backs, anything that tries to eat them from the top dies, you wouldn't believe the amount of dead snakes i used to find on my property up north, they all have a lump in their guts and when cut open, they all have a toad in them..  Steve, i was talking both domestic and feral cats mate, my mates mums cat kills absolutely everything that moves and has made a huge difference to the wildlife in their area, remember, we have NO native felines here and lots and  lots of small wildlife, cats are a huge problem, both domestic and feral....  The sheer size of Australia and its relatively small population makes it hard to do anything about the invasive pest problems we have here...
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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2014, 02:34:42 AM »
My grey tabby was feral at one time so if he catches anything it does not survive but the other two seldom kill anything they catch and I have no problem getting the victim free and letting them loose across the street in the woods.

Feral cats I am sure take a larger toll but... killing or trapping does not work as others will just move in to fill the void.
It would seem by your own statements about your domesticated cats, that without your life saving efforts, your friendly cats would kill all their little playmates?

"Killing" feral animals is the only productive measure at reducing their population or the damage they inflict. Look at Texas, Florida and many other southern states and the problem with feral pigs. Look at Australia and the Cane Toad, the Donkey in the Outback, the Rock python in South Florida. You really do need to be better informed on the unrestricted destruction that invasive species do to an environment where there is no natural predator to a species to keep environmental balance.

I could list examples endlessly of land animals, then move to aquatic animals... It's not overstated, it's under-managed.

Exactly, introduced species, we don't have too much trouble with donkeys Cal but Camels are a totally different story, the cane toad is the worst of the lot but the crows have worked out a way of eating out their stomaches by turning them on their backs, anything that tries to eat them from the top dies, you wouldn't believe the amount of dead snakes i used to find on my property up north, they all have a lump in their guts and when cut open, they all have a toad in them..  Steve, i was talking both domestic and feral cats mate, my mates mums cat kills absolutely everything that moves and has made a huge difference to the wildlife in their area, remember, we have NO native felines here and lots and  lots of small wildlife, cats are a huge problem, both domestic and feral....  The sheer size of Australia and its relatively small population makes it hard to do anything about the invasive pest problems we have here...

Exactly the reason I refuse to get one even with the missus wanting one.  We have a good population of sugar gliders near where I live and I would rather not pick the poor little buggers up after they have been killed by a mongrel cat.  We don't have any cats within half a click of here and I want to keep it that way.

Some cats are just not as social as others, even down right nasty. I think the one that was shot was one of the more sociable ones.

Sad Cat Story brings back a memory of one of my parents friends who had a neighbor's cat crawl up into their nice warm engine compartment. The described the gawd awful noise it made when they started the car. They delivered it back to the neighbors in a black plastic trash bag, and since  infants were around when they delivered it to the door, they spelled out what was in the bag. Here is your C-A-T as they handed them the bag.

When I was an apprentice working at the local council, I had to clean one of them mongrels out of the radiator of a truck.  It was winter time and they had been doing night works the previous night.  The truck had only been sitting for a few hours and the engine was nice and warm.  When the daytime driver hopped in and fired it up there was a horrible thud, splat sound followed by squealing fan belts and one of the most horrible smells I have ever had to smell. 

Seeing as I was the apprentice I had the fun job of cleaning it up.  I won't go into too much detail but it was nearly a full days work and it sure as hell wasn't pretty.
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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 12:26:51 AM »
Some cats are just not as social as others, even down right nasty. I think the one that was shot was one of the more sociable ones.

Sad Cat Story brings back a memory of one of my parents friends who had a neighbor's cat crawl up into their nice warm engine compartment. The described the gawd awful noise it made when they started the car. They delivered it back to the neighbors in a black plastic trash bag, and since  infants were around when they delivered it to the door, they spelled out what was in the bag. Here is your C-A-T as they handed them the bag.



Your first post made me sad fiddy but the second really hurt to read;I'm allergic to cats and always have been but they're animals & they have rights too.I just hope when someone adopts any animal that they make a life long commitment or at least do their 'dead level best' to;I highly respect some folks and they're adoption big hearts. I've seen well cared for animals and met some of their caretaker/owners I've always enjoyed the experience.  8)

There wasn't much left  to do after it hit the fan. There are many cats I like, the first I certainly wouldn't shoot at, but it was kind of exciting to have it wander in the house and have the dog go nuts on it. And it was really friendly and relatively cooperative as we tried to get it out of it's predicament.  I studied a fair bit of life sciences, to me the cat in the  car story was more related to Darwinism. A  Cat that crawls into an engine compartment is just not selected for in this case, the trouble is it probably already reproduced.  The people had a real mess  in their car to clean up, and in some ways the owner shares  blame on both circumstances.
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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2014, 06:49:41 AM »
Fiddy, I've been missing not having a pet;it's been a few years..., my apt. now has a 'no pet' policy so it's been real boring here.
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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2014, 10:38:26 AM »
As matter of fact I grew up with dogs and got used to cats because of friends that had both. I love the animals I am close to, and am responsible to drop in on a friends attention starved whippet as I type. There is practically no better subject matter for photography and I love all the animals I am close to.

The best part is I don't have to commit a lifestyle or find someone to care for them when I want to do a me thing, or much worse neglect them because I know what I do.  If I had pets I could not promise to not disappear for a few days at a time.

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Re: Sad cat story
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2014, 08:22:26 PM »
heres a sad cat story,look whats happened to mine ive squeezed its head off?about 1962 me and my older sister.