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Re: First CB750
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2014, 05:31:47 AM »
I put motobatt batteries in all my bikes no chance of them leaking.The one in my Trophy 1200 is even mounted on its side
Why risk broken chains or acid stains.

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Re: First CB750
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2014, 06:09:33 AM »
So do you think I'll need to strip the engine back down to search for broken pieces in the crank case? Also it seems like aluminum and jb weld work as a quick fix for this. It's this something you guys would do or should I just start searching for a new case?
This is a customary approach to fixing it while in the frame. I would encourage you to drop the oil pan and confirm no contamination of shredded or chipped aluminum is running around in the engine.
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Re: First CB750
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2014, 06:52:00 AM »
I think Kev's concern is that the chunk of crankcase had to go somewhere.  And one possible trajectory for at least a bit of it was inside the crankcase. 
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Re: First CB750
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2014, 01:47:19 PM »
Thanks guys. So I guess I'll do an oil change and pull the oil pan to check for metal shards. If I find any I'm guessing the next recommended step is ripping that engine back out. At least I'm getting some hands on experience haha.

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Re: First CB750
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2014, 01:54:40 PM »
Count yourself lucky.  Throwing a chain is no joke.  The chain can whip and rip parts of your leg off and/or bind on the wheel hub, seize and down you go. 

I had one go while canyon riding on my sportbike -- thankfully with no crash.
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Re: First CB750
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2014, 02:35:53 PM »
Count yourself lucky.  Throwing a chain is no joke.  The chain can whip and rip parts of your leg off and/or bind on the wheel hub, seize and down you go. 

I had one go while canyon riding on my sportbike -- thankfully with no crash.

You know I was thinking I got pretty lucky after I saw what it did to the crank case. I had never heard of that happening before though so I wasn't too sure how common or how dangerous it was.

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Re: First CB750
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2014, 03:02:13 PM »
After you resolve the case damage, replace both front and rear sprocket and chain. Then adjust the tension properly. Make certain the adjuster is restricted also. Could easily have been a case where the axle adjuster let loose, over stretched the chain, then SNAP!

Driveline components on bikes need regular looking after. Especially "new to you" bikes.
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Re: First CB750
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2014, 04:17:40 PM »
Count yourself lucky.  Throwing a chain is no joke.  The chain can whip and rip parts of your leg off and/or bind on the wheel hub, seize and down you go. 

I had one go while canyon riding on my sportbike -- thankfully with no crash.

You know I was thinking I got pretty lucky after I saw what it did to the crank case. I had never heard of that happening before though so I wasn't too sure how common or how dangerous it was.

Sometimes it's not taking up excess slack in the chain; sometimes it's a worn, damaged or compromised chain; sometimes it's a worn out sprocket or one that breaks.  On mine, the teeth of my rear sprocket broke under load (throttling out of a turn) and the chain was thrown off. 

Cal's advice is good about replacing both sprockets and the chain once you sort out the case damage.  You can run a search on the upper left as to case damage or repair.  A good welder should be able to repair the damage.  Unfortunately, you will be splitting the case to get there, so you will have an opportunity to inspect the lower end.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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