Author Topic: 1977 CB550K Cafe Racer project "Shinobi" (Read 13739 times)

jdizon · « **Reply #25 on:** September 02, 2015, 02:10:01 PM »

I thought I answered what you asked in your private email? Well anyways I gave you his contact info as I thought you were interested in getting work done from him.

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on September 02, 2015, 02:07:42 PM

I wasn't sure if you did, but I figured there might be some others (like me) interested in the frame geometry and construction.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #26 on:** September 02, 2015, 03:23:07 PM »

Johann,

Thanks for giving me Jamie's email. I think his price is very fair for a custom frame, but not in my present budget (at least until after next tax season) with the projects I already have going. Plus I'd prefer to see how yours performs. I hope I didn't rub you the wrong way by sharing the geometry info.

I was just sharing the specs because I figured there are others that were curious as well. This is a great looking project!

Don

calj737 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 02, 2015, 03:29:12 PM »

I was interested as well, and hoped sooner or later Johan would share it. Then again, I can understand if it's preferred to be kept private. Nonetheless, it's a great looking foundation by a skilled fabricator!

jdizon · « **Reply #28 on:** September 02, 2015, 03:33:02 PM »

Thanks but I wasn't sure what info people wanted to see? I'll try and provide more detailed specs etc on the parts used moving forward.

Quote from: calj737 on September 02, 2015, 03:29:12 PM

I was interested as well, and hoped sooner or later Johan would share it. Then again, I can understand if it's preferred to be kept private. Nonetheless, it's a great looking foundation by a skilled fabricator!

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #29 on:** September 02, 2015, 04:41:18 PM »

I'm hoping I'm not beating a dead horse. I didn't disclose pricing since I was not sure Johann would want that posted. I presumed that many member are interested in the geometry (rake, trail) on a custom frame as it can affect the handling of the bike, especially as it might compare to the 550 (which many regard as a very-well handling motorcycle). By disseminating geometry information, members can deduce whether or not the custom frame offers a performance improvement as compared to the stock frame.

That's all. End of diatribe!

Thanks for your indulgence, Johann!

jdizon · « **Reply #30 on:** September 03, 2015, 11:52:12 AM »

Final look of the rear cowl before the buck goes out to my buddy for the metal shaping. I'm very happy with the look and will NOT change it

hashvm · « **Reply #31 on:** September 03, 2015, 11:56:03 AM »

This bike is gonna be a killer! Very nice lines on this design

jdizon · « **Reply #32 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:14:26 PM »

Thanks man! Got big plans for this bike

Quote from: hashvm on September 03, 2015, 11:56:03 AM

This bike is gonna be a killer! Very nice lines on this design

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #33 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:32:30 PM »

That cowl looks great -- excellent proportions to the tank.

jdizon · « **Reply #34 on:** September 03, 2015, 12:41:07 PM »

Thanks Don I appreciate it. The cowl is a little shorter to give me some breathing room.

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on September 03, 2015, 12:32:30 PM

That cowl looks great -- excellent proportions to the tank.

Restoration Fan · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:09:40 PM »

Looks really good.
Are you going to leave the exhaust that short or do you plan to put a muffler on it?

jdizon · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:16:12 PM »

Thanks. I'm still not 100% on the exhaust I plan to go with but I'm leaning towards a 4 into 1 with the oil filter accessible paired with a Yoshi style rear setup with baffles.

Quote from: Restoration Fan on September 03, 2015, 01:09:40 PM

Looks really good.
Are you going to leave the exhaust that short or do you plan to put a muffler on it?

calj737 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:45:33 PM »

A comment on exhaust systems if I may; too many get worked up over access to the filter. With a MotoGP/Yoshi, the header unclips in seconds by releasing the springs. It's not worth worrying about because it will take longer to change the oil then remove the header.

My input.

jdizon · « **Reply #38 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:53:36 PM »

Thanks for your input! Never new they unclip the way you mentioned. I may reconsider and actually did call Motogpwerks to inquire about purchasing an exhaust system. It doesn't look like Chris has a long enough list of buyers yet to warrant another batch. He mentioned maybe towards the end of the year but I'd like to get my bike on the road within the 2 months. If you got any leads or want to sell one of yours I'd be definitely interested

Quote from: calj737 on September 03, 2015, 01:45:33 PM

A comment on exhaust systems if I may; too many get worked up over access to the filter. With a MotoGP/Yoshi, the header unclips in seconds by releasing the springs. It's not worth worrying about because it will take longer to change the oil then remove the header.

My input.

calj737 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:56:07 PM »

If you genuinely need a set sooner than he has one ready, I have a new on box set sitting and awaiting the 500 build. It won't be needed until late Spring, so we can swap the order (done it 3 times already). If you decide that's what you need, just PM me and I'll ship them along. They're not going anywhere before then. No rush, no risk.

jdizon · « **Reply #40 on:** September 03, 2015, 02:08:02 PM »

That's very gracious of you

I am on the list for a set but definitely could use one sooner. Let me follow up with Chris to get an exact timeframe of when he expects to make the next batch and get back to you. I would hate to take your set and find out he won't make another by the end of the year.

Quote from: calj737 on September 03, 2015, 01:56:07 PM

If you genuinely need a set sooner than he has one ready, I have a new on box set sitting and awaiting the 500 build. It won't be needed until late Spring, so we can swap the order (done it 3 times already). If you decide that's what you need, just PM me and I'll ship them along. They're not going anywhere before then. No rush, no risk.

jdizon · « **Reply #41 on:** September 03, 2015, 03:56:49 PM »

Got some goodies today! Normally I hate wiring bikes but I'm actually really excited about hooking up this Motogadget M-unit and M button. Got the m-blaze signals and switches also on the way. Planning to tuck a Shorai Lithium battery inside the rear cowl and the rest of the electronics underneath the seatpan. The seat pan will only be about 2" inches deep so it won't be view-able with the exception of the Rick's reg/rec wich I might mount underneath for some additional cooling. I also picked up a pair of Dyna coils I plan to mount underneath the tank.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #42 on:** September 03, 2015, 04:58:12 PM »

Bike porn!

No M-Lock?

jdizon · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2015, 05:04:03 PM »

I'll have to look into that and see what it does and if I can use it. Right now I'm saving up for one of their motoscope pro digital dashes

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on September 03, 2015, 04:58:12 PM

Bike porn!

No M-Lock?

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SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #44 on:** September 03, 2015, 05:07:25 PM »

It acts a master key -- and replaces the need for a physical key turning the ignition switch. It uses RFID technology to switch the bike's electrical system on/off when passed near the sensor. Without it, a thief cannot power on your bike. It makes hotwiring a bike difficult.

You can place it in your jacket or pocket so that it simply turns on the bikes electrical when you get on it.

jdizon · « **Reply #45 on:** September 03, 2015, 05:10:27 PM »

Damn.. That's fancy. I must have one of those

thanks for the info.

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on September 03, 2015, 05:07:25 PM

It acts a master key -- and replaces the need for a physical key turning the ignition switch. It uses RFID technology to switch the bike's electrical system on/off when passed near the sensor. Without it, a thief cannot power on your bike. It makes hotwiring a bike difficult.

You can place it in your jacket or pocket so that it simply turns on the bikes electrical when you get on it.

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calj737 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2015, 06:44:02 PM »

Ditch the M-Button and use that money towards the M-Lock. Using the M-Button with clip on bars is a major pain and doesn't really gain you anything in simplifying the harness. Every wire from the m-switches is a "Ground" and I use 22awg to run straight to the input side of the m-unit. The output of the m-unit is switched 12v, so use 18awg directly to the component. Simple.Done. You also can simplify the alternator 8-way plug. Remove the Oil and Neu wires from it, and consolidate the remaining wires into the female plug provided with the Ricks. The Regulator side RED should be removed from the plug and the loose WHITE goes in its place. The loose RED to battery POS, loose GREEN to chassis Ground, and loose BLACK to LOCK/AUX on the m-unit.

Aren't you done yet?

As for the the MotoScope Pro, very cool. It's supplied with 2 multi plugs. Our bikes can basically only use about 9 of the input/output wires, as most of the others are sensors for more modern bikes. Ditch them!

SF · « **Reply #47 on:** September 03, 2015, 09:17:22 PM »

Great look front to back, nice lines and nice products you picked out. I have the M-lock for my 550 project and it makes for a clean look.

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SF · « **Reply #48 on:** September 03, 2015, 09:18:37 PM »

What are your plans for motor work? Sorry if I missed it somewhere

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jdizon · « **Reply #49 on:** September 03, 2015, 09:22:02 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on September 03, 2015, 06:44:02 PM

Ditch the M-Button and use that money towards the M-Lock. Using the M-Button with clip on bars is a major pain and doesn't really gain you anything in simplifying the harness. Every wire from the m-switches is a "Ground" and I use 22awg to run straight to the input side of the m-unit. The output of the m-unit is switched 12v, so use 18awg directly to the component. Simple.Done. You also can simplify the alternator 8-way plug. Remove the Oil and Neu wires from it, and consolidate the remaining wires into the female plug provided with the Ricks. The Regulator side RED should be removed from the plug and the loose WHITE goes in its place. The loose RED to battery POS, loose GREEN to chassis Ground, and loose BLACK to LOCK/AUX on the m-unit.

Aren't you done yet?

As for the the MotoScope Pro, very cool. It's supplied with 2 multi plugs. Our bikes can basically only use about 9 of the input/output wires, as most of the others are sensors for more modern bikes. Ditch them!

Actually I was thinking about the m-button with the clip-ons. It would be tough as I'm running switches on both sides. I should have thought about this a little more before pulling the trigger. I'll be referring to your notes when I begin wiring. Appreciate the feedback. Also in terms of the motoscope pro, do you mean I should ditch this altogether?

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Author Topic: 1977 CB550K Cafe Racer project "Shinobi" (Read 13739 times)