Topic: RE: Video Editing on a Budget?

[chewbacca5000]

Came across this great Premiere Pro "pro" tip for doubling your editing speed.

http://www.leftcoast.co/2015/you-can-double-your-edit-speed-editing-adventure-films/

Cheers

Thanks man.. Some good tips in that video..

.: Scott :.

Can't find the link, but the youtube was all about using shortcuts in premiere to speed things along.  The person giving the talk said all their hot keys are setup on the left hand side of the keyboard so they can be operated on just by the left hand.

[Zaipai]

Can't find the link, but the youtube was all about using shortcuts in premiere to speed things along.  The person giving the talk said all their hot keys are setup on the left hand side of the keyboard so they can be operated on just by the left hand.

Yea, that is a good trick to get to short cut keys quickly. I don't use Windows or Mac so there is little about the video editing software I use however the videos I edit don't need to be done quickly so speed is not an issue for me. However if you need to speed up editing look into those short cuts..

.: Scott :.

[chewbacca5000]

Can't find the link, but the youtube was all about using shortcuts in premiere to speed things along.  The person giving the talk said all their hot keys are setup on the left hand side of the keyboard so they can be operated on just by the left hand.

Yea, that is a good trick to get to short cut keys quickly. I don't use Windows or Mac so there is little about the video editing software I use however the videos I edit don't need to be done quickly so speed is not an issue for me. However if you need to speed up editing look into those short cuts..

.: Scott :.

What video editing software do you use?  I use OpenShot Video Editor on Unbuntu.  It is a basic editing program without any effects or color correction.

[goldarrow]

I find it ironic that many of people on here has all the time in the world working on their project bikes, but no money to spend on the bike, but on the other hand, spending money on fastest PC components on the market. can't you just let it render or whatever it suppose to do then use the time to work on bike and come back check it later?  Silly.

[chewbacca5000]

I find it ironic that many of people on here has all the time in the world working on their project bikes, but no money to spend on the bike, but on the other hand, spending money on fastest PC components on the market. can't you just let it render or whatever it suppose to do then use the time to work on bike and come back check it later?  Silly.

I normally would agree with you on this, but the it just is not that simple.  A faster computer allows you to try out things like color correction and effects in real time are not possible on a 6 year old computer.  Video editing is complicated, and I am hoping having a fast machine will let me try things out and speed up my learning curve.

As for spending money on my the bike or bikes I have done a fair bit of that.  Heck I bought a full powdercoat oven, 185 CFM blaster, and $5k powdercoat gun to do my bikes.  I have recently sold that off as it there is not the market where I live for those services.

After loosing my job of 6 years years and have done IT for a total of 15 years I am looking to reinvent myself so to speak.  I know it sounds cliche, but that is where I am at.  I have found that I really enjoy learning new technologies that add value to peoples lives and sharing what I have learned with others.  That is what I hope to be doing in the future.

As for the video thing I believe it is a useful skill for anyone to have as youtube is growing 40% per year.  As for me personally in the past I have spent 100% of my time wrenching on bikes and building them only to be out sold by younger guys who have their stuff together when it comes to marketing.

For the longest time I would get angry at the hipster craft everything cafe bike builder, and now I admire them for the marketing geniuses they are.  It is not enough to build the best bike you also need an image that matches that.

ie. Darel Dixon Bike by JOHN RYLAND at classifiedmoto.com
http://www.bikeexif.com/daryl-dixon-motorcycle

[chewbacca5000]

Read JOHN RYLAND story, HOW TO BUILD MOTORCYCLES FOR A LIVING http://www.bikeexif.com/build-custom-motorcycles

Before building bikes he put in 80 hour weeks in the advertising industry.

Quote: "GET HELP Once you figure out your style, partner with people who can present you in the best light. Pay them, trade with them, but get them onboard somehow. In my case, I enlisted my good friend Adam Ewing to photograph all my bikes."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Personally I think many of the bikes here are as good or better than classifiedmoto.com, but not everyone here has access to a professional photographer to make their bikes looks like centerfold pinups.

Another guy ESPOs powdercoating is number 1 in Google for powdercoating in NYC and he is only 22 years old, but that is not the interesting part.  The interesting part is how he rocks a DSLR camera and has been using one since 14 years old.  His pictures are the best pictures of powdercoating you will find anywhere.

Check out his picture thread http://powder365.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2571

[chewbacca5000]

If I lived in California, Seattle, Washington, Oregon or TX I probably would not care about taking pictures or video anything else, but living in Syracuse, NY it forces you to be creative and ask questions that you might not otherwise ask.  Hopefully that answers your question.

[chewbacca5000]

                                                                                                                                                                                      Personally I think many of the bikes here are as good or better than classifiedmoto.com, but not everyone here has access to a professional photographer to make their bikes looks like centerfold pinups.

His bikes have a "look" only; they are not well engineered nor are they well built. His skills are limited to some welding (hired) and basic motor mechanicals. Until recently, he outsourced all machining, mechanical, electrical and tuning to nearby shops. What he "has" is the "Hollywood" brand like OCC had with their themed bikes.

His is a story of surface, not substance. Not disparaging him, but illuminating the extensive divide between many bikes on here versus the build quality of his. Look at any of recent BOTY builds. They ALL surpass his builds by miles and fabrication. His motors are stock "replants" and components are mis-matched (semi intentionally) as an urban apocalypse theme. Please, don't compare him to the folks on here...

But you make a valid point on marketing yourself, Chewy. You may discover someone with talent who needs "publicity" to swap photos of your builds for advertisement of his work. Your market location is whats really killing you more than your capabilities.

Thanks Cal!  Did not mean to make any comparisons or offend anyone.  That is a good idea Cal maybe I can find a photog looking to make a name for themselves and can shoot my bikes for me.  A cool old vintage bike would be great in any aspiring photographers portfolio.

I would be interested to know where you are getting your information regarding the his extensive use of outsourcing. 

[chewbacca5000]

Wow!  This is a great post on a Todd Blubaugh, a photographer who teamed up with Twinline. Some cool video too.

http://megadeluxe.com/videos/interview-with-photographer-todd-blubaugh


It turns out that all these guys have professional photographers to take pictures, and shoot video for them.  Anyone know where I can find a Todd Blubaugh in Syracuse, NY. ha,ha,ha

The behind the scenes stuff is really interesting to me.  No one tells you this stuff.  The idea of the lone wolf solo bike builder who makes it big is apparently just a myth.  They have a full image entourage in tow.

[chewbacca5000]

This will blow your mind, this dude has interviews with all kinds of photographers, designers, illustrators, as well as bike builders.

http://megadeluxe.com/category/interviews

[Zaipai]

What video editing software do you use?  I use OpenShot Video Editor on Unbuntu.  It is a basic editing program without any effects or color correction.

Nice, I thought I was the only Linux guy here. I run Linuxmint I removed Windows from my rig many years ago and have not looked back. I use KDENLive because it offers slightly more than Openshot. However neither stable version of Openshot or Kdenlive offer GPU support for rendering and I am hoping the new release of Openshot coming out soon will fix that. I am also hoping that both will offer 4k support, while I don't have a 4k monitor or camera I can see down the road I will likely have both.

I have tried to use Blender because it can do things even the most expensive video editing software on Mac and Windows can't do however you almost have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.

I also have been in IT since the early 90's and have been a Windows Systems Analyst (Funny cause I won't run Windows at work either) at my current job for almost 20 years now. Good company and because its a large pharma company I get to do lots of things I could not do at smaller companies.

.: Scott :.

[chewbacca5000]

What video editing software do you use?  I use OpenShot Video Editor on Unbuntu.  It is a basic editing program without any effects or color correction.

Nice, I thought I was the only Linux guy here. I run Linuxmint I removed Windows from my rig many years ago and have not looked back. I use KDENLive because it offers slightly more than Openshot. However neither stable version of Openshot or Kdenlive offer GPU support for rendering and I am hoping the new release of Openshot coming out soon will fix that. I am also hoping that both will offer 4k support, while I don't have a 4k monitor or camera I can see down the road I will likely have both.

I have tried to use Blender because it can do things even the most expensive video editing software on Mac and Windows can't do however you almost have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.

I also have been in IT since the early 90's and have been a Windows Systems Analyst (Funny cause I won't run Windows at work either) at my current job for almost 20 years now. Good company and because its a large pharma company I get to do lots of things I could not do at smaller companies.

.: Scott :.

I like Ubuntu sure Mint is fine too.  After being on call 24/7 at my last tech job and having to drive 1,000 per week or more I started to get anxiety attacks and decided it was time for a change.  It was SOHC4 therapy for me all the way!  Dream was to be a bike builder, but quickly discovered like anything else there is more to it than being able to turn a wrench.

Anyone interested in upping their marketing game should read the story of Pat Flynn, he was a member of a forum just like us, before he turned internet marketing superstar.  The forum was dedicated to passing the green LEED certification exam for architecture where he became a guru on the topic.  Six months after passing the exam his company laid him off, and he paniced before finding out his green study site was getting lots of traffic.

That is when he made up a study guide and sold up a bunch of them at $19.99 a pop and his first months sales were over $7,000. He has been helping others with marketing their business online ever since.  I am working to learn different marketing techniques and video is just one of those tools.  Even Pat outsources task like podcast editing, and the skill of delegation is an important one I will have to learn as well.

If anyone is interested just check him out at http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/about/

[Zaipai]

If anyone is interested just check him out at http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/about/

Yea, I believe I heard of him. A good story to be sure. Luckily I have never had to be on call for this company in the last 17 years and I work from home while traffic around the bathroom gets hairy I manage well enough. I am sure the company I work for will outsource like a lot of other companies are doing these days. I will deal with that when the time comes heck maybe I can get an early retirement package! Anyway. I started wrenching on bikes right out of school, moved to tool and die then to building kitchens/bathrooms and then sold one of my bikes for an Atari and never looked back.  So I am some what familiar with the whole reinventing yourself thing. However at 52 its a lot harder given how most companies would rather hire some one straight out of school.

Well hope you get it all sorted out sounds like you have it figured out.. That is the hardest part..

.: Scott :.

[chewbacca5000]

If anyone is interested just check him out at http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/about/

Yea, I believe I heard of him. A good story to be sure. Luckily I have never had to be on call for this company in the last 17 years and I work from home while traffic around the bathroom gets hairy I manage well enough. I am sure the company I work for will outsource like a lot of other companies are doing these days. I will deal with that when the time comes heck maybe I can get an early retirement package! Anyway. I started wrenching on bikes right out of school, moved to tool and die then to building kitchens/bathrooms and then sold one of my bikes for an Atari and never looked back.  So I am some what familiar with the whole reinventing yourself thing. However at 52 its a lot harder given how most companies would rather hire some one straight out of school.

Well hope you get it all sorted out sounds like you have it figured out.. That is the hardest part..

.: Scott :.

Your quite the DaVinchi!  That is what I like about this forum, the members are multi-talented and not mono lithic like on Facebook cat, cat, dog, kid, political BS, cat, baby, fart,swear etc...

[CB750R]

So you settle on a build yet? 

[RAFster122s]

Just a data point.... some sites use a tactic where they omly offer you a low price once or twice when looking.  Then you go to buy and the price is higher. That can be bypassed by using your browser and Chrome calls it " incognito", you have an anonymous browsing session using that mode without the cookies and website ability to travk you or identify you from previous visits...
Then, magically the low price reappears. Amazon,airlines, and other businesses use this tactic to manipulate your purchasing. Amazon also charges more for orders on a Friday or Weekend...

I just ran across your thread and was reading it and thought I would pass along a few tips. Worst case, if the incognito page doesn't give you the preferred price go back to your original method.

Good luck!

David

Intel has an incredibly high IPC (instructions per cycle) compared to AMD. High IPC is always better, no question.  In the case of editing more Cores or Threads is better.  Both AMD and Intel have the same instruction sets so the difference in encoding comes down to clock rate and IPC.  If you have 1k as a budget definitely go with Intel.  The 4790K  is a great processor giving you 8 threads to work with. 

The passmark benchmark is an overall performance benchmark of a cpu and a good standard to go off of.  oddly enough I cannot find benchmark  results purely about encoding.  If you can swing it, you should look into a 5820K.  that will give you 12 threads and larger cache, however those boards can be pricey and you'll need DDR4 which is coming down in price but not as cheap as DDR3. 

If you were on a smaller budget AMD would have been the better choice but your budget gives you enough room to go really big with intel.

I am happy with all  the black Friday discounts I was able to get what I believe will be a decent intel rig for the same price or less than the AMD.

Also, I decided against getting the 5820k setup as it would have cost $1,100 for the mobo, ram, and processor.  I got the 4790k  setup for $647.  Maybe in a year or two down the road I will get something different.

I figure I can use the savings to get a decent graphics card.  Also newegg has the Samsung 250 GB EVO for $71.  I think amazon and newegg mointor each others traffic.  I just keep on flipping back and forth until the price dropped to my buy point.  With 3 of these in a RAID I should be pushing close to 1.5 GBs which is fine considering most consumer grade mobo raids  tops out at 4 SSDs.

I will have to sell some parts to pay for all this and get a 980 GTX or other graphics card.

I'll pass that on to my son, I'm glad he could help. He works in IT for phone and internet provider in his area and is familiar with Windows, MAC and Linux operating systems pretty much because he has to be familiar with them in order to do his job. He doesn't have the budget to afford the absolute fastest cpu and mobos either but he overclocks what he has as much as he can get away with and still have a stable setup. When he was still living here he had a comp so overclocked and so many cooling fans on it to keep it cool it would dim the lights momentarily when he'd first boot it up.  He also messes with arduino and raspberry pi boards which I think is really cool.

[chewbacca5000]

Thanks David!  That is a great tip I am struggling with that same problem right now trying to buy my video card.  I see an ad at one price, go to Amazon or NewEgg and it is a difference price.  I will give tip a go.

[chewbacca5000]

So you settle on a build yet?

Yes I did.  Going with the following components:

Gigabyte GA-Z97X-GAMING 5 LGA 1150 Z97 115dB SNR HD Audio with Built-In Rear Audio Amplifier ATX Motherboard

Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB Kit (8GBx4) DDR3 1600 (PC3-12800) 240-pin UDIMM BLS4KIT8G3D1609DS1S00 / BLS4CP8G3D1609DS1S00

Intel Core BX80646I74790K i7-4790K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz)

Samsung EVO 850

The base system is around $700 or so.  I still got to pull the trigger on the GTX 980 Ti video card and that will bring me up to $1,500 and should do everything I want for at least a few years.


Also gonna run Adobe Premier got the whole package for $40 per month black Friday special.

[Zaipai]

Thanks David!  That is a great tip I am struggling with that same problem right now trying to buy my video card.  I see an ad at one price, go to Amazon or NewEgg and it is a difference price.  I will give tip a go.

If you use firefox its called Private Window. All browsers have that now. It works sometimes the problem with that is that once you sign in they have all the info they want on you so the price could go up once signed in. Also the Private or incognito mode does not work on sites using SuperCookies since they can't be easily deleted and the browser can't bypass them Overstock is one such site.

.: Scott  :.

[chewbacca5000]

Zaipai,

After watching this

I learned it might be possible to be a bike builder without having professional videography skills.

Much better than this terrible video

Could it be that telling the story is just as important as building the bike?

[Zaipai]

Zaipai,

After watching this

I learned it might be possible to be a bike builder without having professional videography skills.

Much better than this terrible video

Could it be that telling the story is just as important as building the bike?

So I hang around Jeff from Godffery's Garage and Tony from Analog Cycles and they are in my opinion and many others two of the best custom bike builders in the Midwest, neither are videographers what I have learned from watching both of them (they both have very different styles) is that what it takes to be a bike builder is a vision and the ability to execute on that vision. Also networking is key. Having a good ability to work with a camera or do videos is a nice thing and a bonus if you can do it but won't get you there as much as having a vision. Especially if you have your bike featured in Cafe Racer or other media like they both have since Cafe racer did all the camera work you can leverage that.

Just my opinion and since this is just a hobby for me take it with a grain of salt.. Also you are correct that was a much better video I really liked the busa with the phone app.. very cool.

.: Scott :.