Author Topic: Next generation of petrol head is underway!! (Read 9758 times)

Daggless888 · « **on:** June 20, 2016, 03:04:59 AM »

I was PMing calj737 the other day regarding some problems with the Motogadget V2! and he suggested i should post what im up to. so here goes. With a little trepidation i will throw up a few posts of what im trying to do. A few years back i got the bug for a cafe racer. After months of research i decided upon the Benjies cafe racer "Pinas 550". 2 years and a bucket full of sweat, swear words and absolutely no mechanical knowledge the BCR replica fired up. This was my first ground up build on a bike and im pretty chuffed with the end result. Ive put 350klm on it so far with minor bugs to sort out. 1/2 way through the benji build my then 14yo son started to take an interest. Great bonding time in the shed leads to some pretty serious conversations. all of the worlds problems according to a 14yo were solved in no time flat. One of the more serious questions was "can i have a bike one day?" So after some serious discussions with non bike loving ex no1 son was asked what sort would you like. Cognito Moto CB550 as quick as a flash was the reply. A donor was found sitting in an abandoned chook shed and so started journey number 2.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2016, 03:19:32 AM »

Now where to get a seat and CB500T tank from? not many of those in NZ so off to ebay. I am still amazed at what you can get shipped anywhere in the world. tank and seat arrived before full strip down began. at this stage i was still completing bike 1.

calj737 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2016, 03:26:28 AM »

Off to a great start, Dave.

A quick question on the Bennie's tank from Pinas. Is it fiberglass? If so, confirming you lined the tank with Caswell or other suitable epoxy-based liner. The fuel will delaminate the fiberglass (in case you were unaware).

Daggless888 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2016, 03:34:02 AM »

all good. in keeping with the "vintage" tank and seat are all metal. Benjies do a great job. Cannot recommend highly enough!

Daggless888 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2016, 04:34:23 AM »

Strip down almost complete. one thing i learnt quickly is the need to bag n tag everything that comes off. parts were arriving daily. gsx r front shipped from the states before they become pricey. bargain at $350.

Tews19 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2016, 04:06:03 PM »

Well that's good! You may be one of the few that has had a positive experience with him.... subscribed eitherway!

Daggless888 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2016, 05:25:01 AM »

Tank returned from painters. Cognito Moto hub, clamp and rear set brackets arrived along with bates headlight, new rotors and 2nd hand calipers. Mock up almost complete. Rear sub frame to be rebuilt.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2016, 05:52:23 AM »

About this time had to shift house. Up until here I had the luxury of keeping both bikes seperate which helped in keeping parts from getting mixed up. So onto the trailer and introduced Benji to no2. They liked each other right from the start!!

Daggless888 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2016, 10:57:58 AM »

Was a sunny afternoon so took the bikes out for a photo.. Son trying it on for size..

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2016, 11:24:26 AM »

He looks like a tall spidermonkey. It's a good thing you mounted rear sets.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2016, 03:31:07 PM »

Ha.. just last week he beat me for the first time ever in pushbike wheelstands. 600 mtrs and put it down so he could come back and trash talk me!! my job is almost done :-)

Daggless888 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2016, 03:54:24 PM »

another house move..last one for a while im hoping but when you get a major earthquake going through your town and then houses being rebuilt at a hell of a rate it all becomes the norm. Engine being pieced back together. i just have the head to be returned from machine shop. decided to go with external oil lines and cooler. Internals have some nice goodies. dynoman 592 pistons, new valves, cycle x direct intake, new bearings seals and primary drive and cam chain. slotted cam sprocket. cyclex electronic ignition with 358b cam. still trying to locate some cr26 carbies but everyone seems to be out of them at the moment. And this brings me up to present day. Just starting on the rewire with Motogadget.

calj737 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2016, 03:59:50 PM »

There's a member here, Godferrey who sells a bolt on properly spaced rack of 26s for your bike

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2016, 04:22:27 PM »

Very nice Cast Iron VHT paint on the engine.

What do you mean by a Cycle X direct intake?

As for CR26s, check with Godffery's Garage (http://www.vinmoto.org/gallery/v/VinMoto-Garage/album03/Godfferys-Garage-123/) and Dynoman.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2016, 07:24:00 PM »

http://www.cyclexchange.net/500-550-Hi-Perf.htm

cycle exchange are selling a manifold and carbies package that suits the 550. unfortunately the factory is struggling to supply the carbies correctly spaced. dyno man only have standard spaced and are waiting for their next shipment as well. will try godfreys. thankyou for the tip. I need to get the bike finished for the NZ motorcycle show 13th August. both bikes are entered. first show ever so a bit nervous getting everything done in time. nothing like having a deadline tho!

cheers

Daggless888 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2016, 01:32:47 AM »

wiring of the mtotgadget carries on. starting to understand it a bit as we go. So far we have lights front and rear, blinkers, starter. brakes next. just a question does the unit have a built in horn?? when i hit the horn switch it sounds like its coming from the unit.. is this normal or is it telling me to stop...

Daggless888 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2016, 03:11:14 AM »

Found some triumph led blinkers on a shopping trip to Aussie. Look even nicer fitted

calj737 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 26, 2016, 03:31:32 AM »

The m-unit does not have a built-in horn. It sends power to yours, so the horn itself needs a ground wire to chassis, and the power lead from the m-unit. The handlebar button sends a ground to the left side.

If your battery voltage gets low, the m-unit will beep-beep at you. It can also do this when you trip a circuit and it resets that circuit. Watch the m-unit while you press the horn button. The left light and corresponding right side should both illuminate solid only while the button is depressed. If the left side flashes, you're shorting it out somewhere.

The m-unit does have a built-in ALARM function though. This too uses your horn to sound.

Denver_Larry · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2016, 08:45:39 AM »

I spy a Superchicken in the background ❤️ (Firestorm for you I suppose..)

Nice looking work on the CB, keep it coming!

Daggless888 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2016, 05:19:13 AM »

Thanks cal. After a coffee and a bit of head scratching worked out the horn was in fact working. Threw me as I have it mounted down near the motogadget and it needs a bit of sound adjustment. There's a small bolt on the underside I think I can adjust so that at least sounds like a horn. Don't intend to use it much but need it to get through the registration process. Loving the motogadget but man those buttons are a right pain. A nightmare to wire up. Left side done and working. Right side 3 button tomorrow night..run out of swear words tonight so will regroup and attack it once I empty the swear jar out.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2016, 05:27:59 AM »

Ha I've never heard the vtr's called a superchicken. That's the daily ride. these other two won't see much rain work! We are so spoilt for great rides in the South Island of New Zealand. Twisty roads that are fairly deserted and not a lot of eyes watching.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2016, 06:16:39 AM »

Quote from: Daggless888 on June 27, 2016, 05:27:59 AM

Ha I've never heard the vtr's called a superchicken. That's the daily ride. these other two won't see much rain work! We are so spoilt for great rides in the South Island of New Zealand. Twisty roads that are fairly deserted and not a lot of eyes watching.

That's because it was also branded a Superhawk in some markets. Great bike.

calj737 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2016, 06:46:40 AM »

Quote from: Daggless888 on June 27, 2016, 05:19:13 AM

Thanks cal. After a coffee and a bit of head scratching worked out the horn was in fact working. Threw me as I have it mounted down near the motogadget and it needs a bit of sound adjustment. There's a small bolt on the underside I think I can adjust so that at least sounds like a horn. Don't intend to use it much but need it to get through the registration process. Loving the motogadget but man those buttons are a right pain. A nightmare to wire up. Left side done and working. Right side 3 button tomorrow night..run out of swear words tonight so will regroup and attack it once I empty the swear jar out.

The screw post on the backside of the horn may need to be cleaned, as well, some horn units can be opened and cleaned internally. The "flat" tone is often an indication of poor connection or reduced voltage reaching the unit.

I use those same 3-button switches. A bit tricky to wire indeed, but if you use 22AWG to the posts, and some Blue LocTite on the screws, it goes a bit better. I also use a jig to drill my handlebars and then a round file to ream the holes and de-burr them. Slip a little heat shrink towards the switch to prevent chafing, and them slide them out and through the end cap of the clip-on using a rubber grommet. Everything sheathed in poly braid, and secured at both ends with heat shrink.

Kind of like this:

Daggless888 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 29, 2016, 04:16:09 AM »

Buttons finally installed after a bit of language. Had to exit underneath the clip ons as I have the tarozzis that have the securing bolt right in the end. All sheathed up with braid and heat shrunk on the ends. Love the look of the braid. Testing everything as we go. Lights are good, blinkers work both sides, ace well speedo lights up a beautiful backlit blue, horn works although needs some tuning and then find the original starter solenoid is as dead as. Nothing!!!! Power going to it and nothing coming out...ass! New one on the way. Next we finish the motor.

Daggless888 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2016, 03:48:41 AM »

Home from work this arvo and what should I find on the front doorstep!! Nice wee package containing the goodridge super bike lines. Tea had to wait so I could put them straight onto the bike along with the new ferando master cylinder. Hour later all bled and working a treat. I think I will get no1 son to push me down the road tomorrow while making engine noises. Purely to check they are working ok..

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