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Flying Basics
« on: December 07, 2006, 12:53:28 PM »
    Flying Basics

You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3.  (Paul F.
Crickmore -test pilot)
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  The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
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Blue water Navy truism:

There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky. (From
an old carrier sailor)
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If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a
helicopter-- and therefore, unsafe.
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  When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have
enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.
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Without ammunition, the USAF would be just another expensive flying
club.
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  What is the similarity between air traffic controllers and pilots?

If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies; If ATC screws up, ...the pilot
dies.
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  Never trade luck for skill.
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The three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation
are: "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh #$%*!"
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  Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers.
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Progress in airline flying: now a flight attendant can get a pilot
pregnant.
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Airspeed, altitude and brains. Two are always needed to successfully
complete the flight.
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A smooth landing is mostly luck; two in a row is all luck; three in
a row is prevarication.
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I remember when sex was safe and flying was dangerous.
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Mankind has a perfect record in aviation; we never left one up there!
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Flashlights are tubular metal containers kept in a flight bag for
the purpose of storing dead batteries

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Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a
person on the ground! incapable of understanding or doing anything about
it.
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When a flight is proceeding incredibly well,something was forgotten.
Just remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be
held on a sunny day.
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Advice given to RAF pilots during WWII: When a crash seems
inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the
vicinity as slow and gently as possible.
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The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world; ....it can just
barely kill you. (Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot)
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  A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane
to its maximum. (Jon McBride, astronaut)
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If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the
crash as possible.
   (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot)
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If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it; ride the
bastard down.
    (Ernest K. Gann, author & aviator)
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Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you.
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There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign
over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970).
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  The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm,
and, a good bowel movement The night carrier landing is one of the
few opportunities in life where you get to experience all three at
the same time.  (Author unknown, but surely someone who's been there)
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  If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to.
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   Basic Flying Rules: Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not
go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by
the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees and interstellar
space. It is much more difficult to fly there.

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    You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes
full power to taxi to the terminal.

 

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 08:06:07 PM »
"There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign
over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970)."

We flew a retrieval mission last year that defied that.  I was busy enough in the back of the aircraft, a Lear 35 or C21 as the air force likes to call it.  (Why do they do that, anyway?)

The right seat was occupied by a crusty old Marine named John, and the left by a super-experienced pilot named Mark.  The multi-display for the radar is between them, below the instruments.  Suddenly one hits the other, grabs a little digital camera, points it at the weather radar and says "we gotta get a picture.  They'll never believe we flew through this!"

As you can imagine, the ride got really interesting shortly after that.   :o  The airstrip we had to make it to was completely shut down about one minute after we were wheels down.  The thunderstorm looks better from the ground, even when the lightning is striking right around you.  ;)
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 10:23:03 PM »
The cub qoute was old man Piper.

The last words usually on a cockpit voice recorder are "what the F^ck was that" and Oh Sh!t"

Couple you missed....

In thrust we trust.

Gas is better than brains.

If you key the mike and declare an emergency consider the airplane owned by the insurance company...if you don't bend it great but don't expect a letter of thanks.

A good landing is any you can walk away from...a great landing is one you can use the airplane again.

The aiplane bends before the laws of physics.

Now you lot don't get me started telling flying stories.
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 10:29:16 PM »
Here are my 2
"Whats that sound?"   "What's that smell?"  :-[

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 10:51:35 PM »
Hey Kghost,
 Speaking of flying, do you know who Duggy is?

 

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2006, 05:59:38 AM »

Now you lot don't get me started telling flying stories.

just one...please?  ;D
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2006, 06:38:02 AM »
My favorite, from my Navy days, was always "Why does it take a college education to break an airplane, but only a high school education to fix it?"  ::) ;D
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2006, 12:49:22 PM »
Well I have a bunch of flying stories.....2000 hrs behind radials will do that.

I've shut down 33 engines in flight. 16 Wright 1820's, 8 Pratt 1830's, 2 Pratt JT-8's, 1 Pratt PT-6, 2 lycoming 0-320's, 1 Lycoming TIO-540, and a few I don't remember.

Latest one? Saturday.

Garrett TFE-731.

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2006, 12:53:38 PM »
A couple more interesting pictures......

This is the airplane I had 16 Wright 1820's quit on.

The new owners were not quite as ...shall we say..."fast"?
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2006, 01:00:33 PM »
Gee, thanks guys, I'm really looking forward to my next flight.  :o ::) ;D
We'll all be someone else's PO some day.

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2006, 01:10:08 PM »
kg,

don't know if I should refuse to fly with you...or if it's safer.  After all, you do keep surviving.  Test pilot in a previous life? Lion tamer, maybe?

 ;D
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 01:03:00 AM »
the roof just blew off like that,


I bet it was a al-quida (sp?) terrorist plot


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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2006, 03:40:16 AM »
Stick back, go up, stick further back, go higher up, stick further back, go down........ha ha..

There is nothing as useless to a pilot as gasoline back in the tanker, runway behind him or altitude above him..

Then there was the old story about the pilot calling the control tower trying to get entry into a busy circuit to land..after repeated requests to join and being told to hold clear of the airport he radios in, "I'm comming in on one engine"...The tower controller clears every other aircraft out of his way to give him priority......then the pilot turns up on final approach in his Piper Cub...
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2006, 06:13:07 AM »
haha clever


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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2006, 09:02:25 AM »
What exactly departed the pattern on N531FL??

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2006, 12:52:41 PM »
First stage turbine wheel.

Sucker really shucked parts in a dramatic fashion.
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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2006, 03:20:28 PM »
How many stage compressor and power turbine, and what indications did you get??  Are the blades pressed in and pinned? 

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Re: Flying Basics
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2006, 06:47:35 PM »
Its a TFE-731.

Fan and 3 stage N1

Single centrifugal N2

The indication was a very big bang followed by N1 RPM going immediately to zero.

Its a fan engine so n1 is never zero it always windmills.
No rpm = bad.




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