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Re: The Ducati I don't know what to call it
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2017, 02:06:48 PM »
Or maybe.......a custom gas cap? Top fork adjusters?

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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2017, 02:21:13 PM »
Or maybe.......a custom gas cap? Top fork adjusters?

 ;D ;D

This is only round one, trying to keep it cheap til the winter so i have to hold of  on anything but necessities . The screen was painted, I sanded it down, and I can sand it all the way back to clear, but it will take forever.

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Re: The Ducati I don't know what to call it
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2017, 02:24:40 PM »
Or maybe.......a custom gas cap? Top fork adjusters?

 ;D ;D

This is only round one, trying to keep it cheap til the winter so i have to hold of  on anything but necessities . The screen was painted, I sanded it down, and I can sand it all the way back to clear, but it will take forever.

Completely understand, no worries. I know from the Ducati forums the front fly screens are hard to find. Finding a windscreen not so much.

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Re: The Ducati I don't know what to call it
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2017, 03:00:35 PM »
Or maybe.......a custom gas cap? Top fork adjusters?

 ;D ;D

This is only round one, trying to keep it cheap til the winter so i have to hold of  on anything but necessities . The screen was painted, I sanded it down, and I can sand it all the way back to clear, but it will take forever.

Completely understand, no worries. I know from the Ducati forums the front fly screens are hard to find. Finding a windscreen not so much.

I found it on the Omaha site but it's crazy money, that'll wait til the winter as well!

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2017, 04:35:56 PM »
Plenty on flea bay.




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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2017, 08:23:28 AM »
I was looking at your pictures. Do you have the frame covers that run across the bottom of seat?
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2017, 04:49:46 PM »
I was looking at your pictures. Do you have the frame covers that run across the bottom of seat?

I think I am going to run sans covers for now.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2017, 04:55:07 PM »
The front end is more or less done for now, other than needing to cut 19mm off each bar. Now I impatiently wait for exhaust materials.

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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2017, 04:55:46 PM »
No worries. Going to throw some stuff up on flea bay so ran it by you.

Getting your fender mounts ready to ship.

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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2017, 04:57:01 PM »
The front end is more or less done for now, other than needing to cut 19mm off each bar. Now I impatiently wait for exhaust materials.

Nice looking Duc.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2017, 05:14:46 PM »
Parts ship via "fast mail" tomorrow.  ;)

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2017, 05:08:27 AM »
Only some minor things to report. Mufflers came, and I came up with a possible idea for placement, routing the exhaust is a pain for this guy! I also sand blasted the windshield, and it came out awesome, albeit took forever to get it nice and even. I also blasted the levers, and am now polishing them. Since I am trying to cut money wherever possible, rather than replace items that show wear, lots of things are going to get blasted and polished. Also theres so many aftermarket parts on this bike that none of the blacks are the same, and some things have blue accents, otheres red, it really does not look good. At least this way it'll fit the bike better. The factory header is coming today, I may start chopping it, or just wait until Friday when the rest of my tubing arrives. And just to make is that much better, I need the exhaust done by Saturday morning, no pressure!

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2017, 06:36:27 AM »
Would like to see how the wind screen turned out. I have one that I wish to make a little better if possible.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2017, 05:36:10 AM »
Exhaust and screen

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2017, 06:43:46 AM »
Subscribed.

I have a lot of exhaust parts you might need so I'll follow along. The buyer of mine has sent a huge down but it's been over two weeks since I've heard anything.

Not sure if the buyer wants the old exhaust at this time.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2017, 07:02:44 AM »
Haha building the exhaust from scratch tomorrow gonna be a thing of beauty.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2017, 08:29:34 PM »
I like those mufflers mate, where'd you get them? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2017, 02:59:09 AM »
I like those mufflers mate, where'd you get them? Cheers, Terry. ;D

Dime city sells them, they're cone enginering 12 inch cones. I'm not quite sure they even qualify as mufflers lol. Still going to be very loud, hopefully not as bad as it was. My tubing is on vehicle for delivery  ;D ;D

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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2017, 03:51:16 AM »
Nice! Thanks mate! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2017, 10:08:14 AM »
Started on the exhaust, and man what a pain making that rear header. 5 different pieces to go from the exhaust port to just past the monoshock, maybe 15 inches, while the front header was extremely simple. The front pipe will be 1 piece, but due to the crazy bends and how it has to be spun into position, the rear pipe it be sleeved and bolt together. I figure 2-3 hours to have the full thing tacked up, 2 more to fully weld it, then another 7-8 to grind it all down and polish it.

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2017, 05:29:49 AM »
Parts arrive? I never tracked them.

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« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2017, 06:08:29 PM »
Parts arrive? I never tracked them.

Yes thanks!

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« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2017, 06:13:45 PM »
Here's take 1. I'm not sold, but I did somethIng different with it, not sure I am going to keep it this way. Im certainly open to opinions. I rode it for a while this morning, and for me at least, the bike has a lot more cons than pros. Unless I build a custom frame, there's no way I will get to a point where I am happy with it.  The biggest issue is I'm short, the bike is not, and I feel like it's in control and i'm along for the ride. That being said, cracking the throttle open is a lot of fun!

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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2017, 10:36:50 PM »
That looks pretty good mate, well done. I'm tall (6'4") but my Honda VTR1000's seat cowl is still pretty high for me to throw a leg over so I bought a lowering kit for it, which consisted of an adjustable turnbuckle that goes from the shocks linkage to the frame, so it can be dropped 3 inches. I had to buy an adjustable side stand as well, and of course I haven't installed it as I scored my RC51 and forgot about the VTR. You can buy a similar kit for your Duck, so maybe that's the solution? Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: The Ducati Demon
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2017, 11:46:55 PM »
Jag, what does an Italian mutt, being of various bikes, not a single model year or even model, sell for?  Send me a PM, since even if you were to be willing to share that number, I doubt you would want it public knowledge.
I think I personally would have opted for the 16" Cone Engr mufflers.  A long baffled can before the reverse cone  would change the exhaust note and quieten it down.  I had used a Dynamax Super Turbo muffler under the passenger compartment of an old  4 cylinder street rod I had, it had uprated motor and was already light and additional lightening and suspension mods made it very entertaining, not expected.  Anyway, back on point, that was a 2" exhaust on a normally 1.5-1.75" exhaust in stock...the short free flowing muffler gave it a very deep and throaty exhaust and the increase in pipesize allowed the motor to pump more air out easier without dropping backpressure too much.  Many thought it a v8 with its overlap on the cam giving it the typical v8 rumble.
Point is the placement of that muffler made the interior of the car resonate like a big bass drum and at 65-70 mph highway speeds it was intolerable  as the muffler was beneath the rear seat area right at the rear axle allowing that resonating to occur both inside and out.  To solve this I had two options, move the muffler further back below the trunk or insert a
 16" glasspack muffler a few feet ahead of that muffler.  I did the later and it changed the frequency of the exhaust to kill the resonating but inside the car would never be very quiet, the car was too old and it would have required a few thousand in sound deadening mastic panels all over the interior and the outer skin accessible where the rear seat side panels opened up into the quarter panels behind the doors.  This car was from the 60 s.

So what?  I think your exhaust could be easier on the ears if you put a pair of glass packs below the motor and then tied into your exhaust work.
 Nice work by the way.  I wish I had those skills.
Changing your cones to 16 inch versions would really quieten it further without removing the snarl and it would still have that meaty high strung italian charm.
I know, too late now for this...
You could sell the cone rev megaphones here if you were to say fit them with an extension that would give them a nice line for a 550 with the Delvevic ?spelling.?  Header or another of the popular headers.

I need to have a set of 4 individual 550 header pipes be paired up to mate into a pair of Kerker 550 open megaphones I picked up a while back.  I think they would sound nice...  not sure if the muffler guys at a custom shop could do it, they are very good but I never see them do collector work welding pipes together after cutting them to join...  beyond their typical work.  You have that skill.  They will be a back burner project until those intermediate pipes are fabricated.

I think Terry's suggestion is the way to go installing a lowering kit to get the bike to a comfortable height.  I have seen very petite women ride Goldwings, that is a huge and heavy machine.  Part of it is going to be psychological and experience.  But, gravity and physics will take over from the psychological and smack you upside the head...so see if a lowering kit would be affordable and determine if this fiesty Italian will keep your interest while not breaking your bank account or marriage...or kill you.

It is pretty, the monster and scrambler are the two Ducati models I like and might consider buying.  Finding a former one that isn't flogged or beaten to death might be a challenge if I am in the market for one.  They tend to be well exercised.

Ask FunJimmy about his 916 or 919, forget which he has, it been eating very expensive crackers since last winter...I think all the parts made it to the Ducati mechanics/shop this week.  The repair bill is more than a MC for how I would typically buy them...
I think part of this bike is going to be it will not be "perfect" and if you can accept its character, then you will get along with it.  I have seen guys learn how to rebuild plastic body work and there are good how-to s on youtube and out on the web if you choose to do that for the front flyscreen plastics.  Sanding back that screen I would pick up a good quality random orbit sander w/ dust collection to help speed things along and use one where you can usewet dry paper and rig a slow drip feed for a couple jets attached to keep the screen and paper wet.  A small screw shutoff valve (maybe an air shutoff valve from an aquarium) could be used to throttle the flow of water in small tubes hot glued to the sander to apply the water while you work.  Plastic needs to be sanded or buffed at slow speeds, less that 1500and probably more like 500-800 so, using a drill powered buffer is going to be better than trying to use a traditional buffer.  Keep your heat down on the plastic or you will get deformation you may and probably will not be able to remove.  Distortions fromleaving the buffing or sanding block/sander in one spot is another thing to avoid with plastics.

Buy high quality sandpaper that does not load up or fracture away, cheaper in the long run.  Do not use below 600 and I would see what 800 would do...  you are going to have to go through many steps from 800, 1000, 1200, 1500, 2000.  For better results you will need to go to 2500 and 3000.  3M makes some expensive film based abrasives, call 3M's auto distributor or specialists, ask a paint supply for autobody for a regional rep #.  They can guide you on what is going to be best for this (acrylic most likely) windscreen.  Weigh the cost of materials against the cost of an aftermarket windscreen.

Novus and Meguiars make good plastic polishes once you get it sanded back to start returning to clear...  Novus makes a deep scratch remover that you should probably use one you have the screen sanded to 2000 level....

I know plastic modelers who go to 4000 and 6000 when doing clear plastics.  Technique is important and you will be Daniel-san level of wax on and wax off from Mr Miyagi ?spelling?  for car and painting techniques.
Expect 15-20 hours if it does not go well and maybe if it does, that is a lot of time.
Time is the one resource which is limited for us all.
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