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Offline Scooterhead

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 12:57:53 PM »
Thankyou two tired ,when I set the fuel air screws to 7/8 out it idles to fast and I can't slow it down but the plugs look more tanned like I'm getting closer
How do I adjust the pilot jet or is that not possible
Also what does that little brass screw do with little flat screwdriver
If I open throttle from 0 to half it sometimes stall
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2017, 02:16:56 PM »
Lecture deleted by request..

Nobody is going to lecture me
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2017, 02:31:09 PM »
Well that's some people I don't care much about that isn't that what this forum is for or I am I missing the point

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2017, 02:45:21 PM »
bench sync your carbs.
clear tube test your bowls.
vacuum sync your carbs.
control your idle speed with the idle set screw
your IMS need to be set based on idle plug chop color.  7/8ths out is just a starting point.
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2017, 03:00:37 PM »
Lecture deleted by request..

Nobody is going to lecture me
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2017, 03:13:49 PM »
What a load of ...". Get a life.  Don't go on this forum if you feel that way.help is very much appreciated arrogance isn't .good day to you sir

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2017, 03:22:02 PM »
Ok , I didn't misread your intentions.

Best of luck to you.
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2017, 03:44:17 PM »
To finish you know nothing of my intentions
Nobody is going to lecture me you don't how much work I have put in,you were assuming
Maybe you are two tired and set in your way

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2017, 01:56:57 AM »
To two tired nobody requested you to delete any messages and putting quotes on is laughable
That was directed at you for unhelpful unnecessary comments on this forum
This is a helpful site not a gripe site if your not the first then don't respond to messages
You continue to be nuisance so stop all correspondence on this please I will get my information elsewhere from someone non embittered

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2017, 05:46:04 AM »
Scooterhead,
Have you done the clear tube test to insure your floats are adjusted and working properly?

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2017, 08:55:56 AM »
To two tired nobody requested you to delete any messages and putting quotes on is laughable
That was directed at you for unhelpful unnecessary comments on this forum
This is a helpful site not a gripe site if your not the first then don't respond to messages
You continue to be nuisance so stop all correspondence on this please I will get my information elsewhere from someone non embittered
A little advice, scoot.  When someone takes the time to give you good information, or instructions for fixing your issue....do it.  Do it well, and report your results.
You're all over the map talking adjusting pilot jets, the bike stalling with throttle, brass screws.....We dont even know if youve bench or vacuum sync'd your carbs.
Did you do a clear tube test of your bowls?  What were the results and did you correct any deficiencies?
Chill dude, and get some of these suggestions done....and report back with your results.
Everyone here is glad to help.  No one here likes having their time wasted.    You're alienating the wrong people.
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2017, 09:35:37 AM »
A little advice fly box are you and this guys pals by any chance he doesn't need anyone else joining in and by the way neither do I
I very much appreciate good advice as this is my first bike complete restoration it is now in showroom condition
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2017, 09:44:39 AM »
A little advice fly box are you and this guys pals by any chance he doesn't need anyone else joining in and by the way neither do I
You? telling TT what he needs?
thats a good one.  ;D

later JJW.  ::)
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2017, 09:46:13 AM »
I came into this one late so I missed twotired's replies. I have no doubt they were his usual careful and detailed responses. Responses that take more than a little time to write. Time is something we don't get more of, so his generousity with his is admirable. He understandably would prefer that his time and effort isn't wasted. You might consider that.

Sorry Lloyd, I know you don't need me to stick up for you but I couldn't resist. ;)
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2017, 09:50:03 AM »
Oh another one
I wasn't wasting anybody time you should see my bike it fabulous it just needs to run right but nobody knows much about older bikes were I live
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2017, 01:36:50 PM »
Oh another one
I wasn't wasting anybody time you should see my bike it fabulous it just needs to run right but nobody knows much about older bikes were I live
Forgive me, where is "were I live" exactly? If Cumbria (as listed din your profile), then you might fare better using the UK Sister site of SOHC. If you register with the same avatar, its quite easy for them to recognize you.

Shame you've sent 2 incredibly knowledgeable and helpful people down the road. Keep at your bike, you're bound to get there with somebody's help.
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2017, 03:06:39 PM »
Oh another one
I wasn't wasting anybody time you should see my bike it fabulous it just needs to run right but nobody knows much about older bikes were I live

Agreed. Nobody knows about older bikes over here. You're much better off persevering with the US site.  ;D
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2017, 03:26:07 PM »

...you should see my bike it fabulous

Wound like to, post up a couple pics
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2017, 04:53:37 PM »

...you should see my bike it fabulous

Would like to, post up a couple pics
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2017, 04:02:26 AM »
Yes it is a shame but such is life I will get there another way

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2017, 07:27:15 AM »
This my bike resto my first one
I recond the engine myself new she'll bearings ,new cam chain piston rings guide an pins etc
Frame is powder coated and everything else was either cleaned up or recromed
I set the valves the points and the timing and I have just stripped the carbs because of a lean condition that's puzzled me which I think might be my fault
It is all stock apart from aftermarket straight through exhausts which have got some sort of push in sound killers that don't work
78 mains 38 pilots floats set to about 23 mm
Questions
1 how do I adjust the slide height
2 the air screw and the air/fuel screws are different yes so I set the air screw for tan sparks at idle then sync with the air fuel screws
3 is the air screw the little brass screw on the side of the carb flat blade screwdriver
I think setting the carbs is a bit of a dark art
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2017, 08:13:33 AM »
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78 mains 38 pilots floats set to about 23 mm
Originally they came with #75 and #35 respectively. Floats according to my documentation should be at 21mm. Hope you didn't change it.
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1 how do I adjust the slide height
You may consult the Honda Shop Manual for your model, pages 6-7 in https://www.classiccycles.org/media//DIR_1653304/DIR_1653404/DIR_1653504/d28e7d12b0a2c4d3ffff8754ffffe417.pdf and from p.35 on in https://www.classiccycles.org/media//DIR_1653304/DIR_1653404/DIR_1653504/d28e7d12b0a2c4d3ffff8755ffffe417.pdf
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2 the air screw and the air/fuel screws are different yes so I set the air screw for tan sparks at idle then sync with the air fuel screws
I don't know if I can follow you here. The airscrews should be at 7/8 ± 3/8 of a turn, so I'd start at 7/8. To my knowledge there are no other adjustment screws, not for mixture.
Mixture and syncing are two different things.
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3 is the air screw the little brass screw on the side of the carb flat blade screwdriver
Yes, the little ones, not the big ones, they're drain screws.
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2017, 12:53:12 PM »
I took the carbs off again to clean them
Put them back on and and started bike,I had black sooty spark plugs and the sync was way out
I sync the carbs but the spark plugs are still sooty.i set the little brass screws on the side to 1 1/4 turns out but I dont know what they do
Do I adjust these screws out as well as the sync screws out to make it leaner
I haven't taken it for a run yet as I have been doing this whilst idling
The spark plugs stay sooty for a while when just idling I am trying to aim for tan looking plugs
I have set the foam floats to about 23 mm

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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2017, 01:00:02 PM »
Anything blocking the air intake?
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Re: Speedo not accurate
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2017, 01:08:08 PM »
Nothing blocking the air intake is it just a case of persevering ,am I going about this the right way?