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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #375 on: March 20, 2020, 12:01:28 PM »
  I finally got a chance to read the entire thread. I'm impressed! Lots of nice work going on in your garage! What fun!
The " catch and release "method ,wow, I think I like the idea. Is there much seller's remorse? Does it hurt all the time or just when you think about it? How many machines have you bought back? Can anybody do this? I'm thinking maybe I should try this. maybe once and see. Thanks for the idea, never thought of it like that.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #376 on: March 29, 2020, 01:27:00 PM »
Today was fire up day!

 At first, #1 was silly hot and #4 was cold-ish; and it was hard to get a nice idle. Some investigation found a diaphragm that wasn't seated properly on #4 and the intake manifold was crazy loose on #1. I guess I just forgot to tighten it up when I put it together. We fought it for a while, then just pulled the carbs and oil lines and tighten all of the manifolds while we were at it.

 Seems to run pretty damn good now!

 As a reminder: 2000 GSX750F engine, Yoshimura slip -on, BST-36 carbs with DynoJet kit, RamAir filters and a slotted timing advancer (stock, for now. I plan on going to a dyno soon).

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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #377 on: March 29, 2020, 01:32:07 PM »
Got some pics, then took it apart again. I pulled the tach signal wire loose installing the tank, so that had to come off. Then I noticed some gas weeping around the petcock screws. I need to see if they use fiber washers. I also need some rubber grommets for the side covers. The clutch could use some adjusting and I want some pin stripes on the tail cowl.
 But, overall, I'm pretty happy with it.









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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #378 on: March 29, 2020, 05:21:19 PM »
That pipe sounds fantastic when reved.  The engine sounds like it has some "extra Zippy" too!

Congrats!  The two-tone brake disks are cool and the duel front are nice.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #379 on: March 29, 2020, 06:04:04 PM »
I really want to ride that!
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #380 on: March 29, 2020, 07:45:06 PM »
I really want to ride that!

I bet for a fair price you can ride it everyday!   ;)
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #381 on: March 30, 2020, 06:43:46 PM »
Got some pics, then took it apart again. I pulled the tach signal wire loose installing the tank, so that had to come off. Then I noticed some gas weeping around the petcock screws. I need to see if they use fiber washers. I also need some rubber grommets for the side covers. The clutch could use some adjusting and I want some pin stripes on the tail cowl.
 But, overall, I'm pretty happy with it.











I wish we could nominate this bike for BOTM. It looks so damn good. I bet it's a hoot to ride.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #382 on: June 29, 2020, 03:42:53 PM »
Still have this Suzuki, still not on the road.

 I definitely have some carb tuning/fuel delivery work ahead of me.
 When riding at normal speeds, part throttle, I could feel a sort of surging. I figured the pilot jets and/or mixture screws needed tuning. It pulls like a banshee up top, but will sometimes stall after a WOT run. Running out of gas, maybe?

 I was starting it weekly until I could get to the dyno, and now it won't start. I have spark, so I suspect the vacuum petcock may have failed. There is no PRIME position on this one. I know how to check it....just need to do it. I got really burned out.

 I used a DynoJet Stage III kit and went with their 140 main jets (which they measure differently that Mikuni does), their needles and set the mixture screws to 2.5 turns out. I DID NOT drill and tap the slides for the plugs they use. I'm told that's only to slow down the rate of the slides raising.
 Knowing what I know now, I would have gone with an assortment of Mikuni jets or the Factory Pro kit.

 Plus, the choke cable came loose from the carbs. I need to have one made that is about 2-3" longer. Who does that? Motion Pro?

 Any suggestions for a low profile, non vacuum petcock?
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #383 on: July 06, 2020, 06:48:03 AM »
Dug into the GS/Kat today. The petcock seems fine, fuel flowed like crazy when I sucked on the vacuum line. Plus, the petcock is actually a pretty good size, with a 6.5mm I.D. My guess is that it will flow just fine for the 750 engine. When I cross reference the Suzuki part number, the same cock was used on the GS1000.



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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #384 on: July 06, 2020, 06:51:37 AM »
 I got the choke cable back in place. That's a fiddly little sucker, and I don't know what is gonna keep it from popping out again. It could stand to be about two inches longer, so it isn't so tight when it exits at the front of the tank and goes up to the handlebars. I looked at a Bandit 1200 cable, but I don't know if it's any longer, and it doesn't have the spring. I would REALLY be concerned with it coming loose without the spring.


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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #385 on: July 06, 2020, 06:55:26 AM »
I was about to hook up my IV fuel bottle and see if she'd start but decided to pull a plug real quick. They're basically impossible to pull with the tank in place. Last time, I checked for spark by taking a spare plug and laying it on the head.
 Pulling the #4 plug revealed the cause of my issues.



 Fouled all to crap. I will clean these and double check that it will run on the fuel bottle, but I've already ordered a set of 4 new plugs. At this point, I'm just going to leave the bodywork off until I can schedule some dyno time and carb tuning.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #386 on: May 26, 2021, 03:13:26 AM »
 Here we are, nearly a year later, and I'm finally getting this thing on the dyno for some tuning. It's just been sitting ever since my last post. I really hope it won't take much to dial it in.



 Any guesses on the numbers she puts down?



 2000 GSX-750F

BST 36 carbs, DynoJet stage 3, RamAir filters

Stock header with a Yoshimura exhaust

Timing advancer slotted (currently stock US timing, will experiment with + 3-5 degrees)
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #387 on: May 26, 2021, 06:30:25 AM »
Guessing right around 100hp
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #388 on: May 05, 2022, 09:51:50 AM »
Well what was it at?
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #389 on: May 08, 2022, 05:32:03 PM »
 Hah!
 My buddy that owns the shop was in a bad motorcycle accident right after I dropped it off. Nearly lost his foot.
 It's still sitting in his shop, gathering dust.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #390 on: May 08, 2022, 06:49:50 PM »
Oh wow. Sorry to hear that.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #391 on: May 08, 2022, 09:12:16 PM »
Scott,how is your buddy who had the accident doing physically ?
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #392 on: May 09, 2022, 02:35:34 AM »
Bad bike wrecks do more than just physically hurt you they can cause you to have difficulty mentally getting back on the bike when they can do so.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #393 on: May 23, 2022, 02:51:44 PM »
Scott,how is your buddy who had the accident doing physically ?

 He's doing well. Healing, but slowly. He's expressed some interest in buying the Suzuki.

Bad bike wrecks do more than just physically hurt you they can cause you to have difficulty mentally getting back on the bike when they can do so.
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 You're not kidding. He's a tough dude and his business is doing awesome, so he has that going for him.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #394 on: May 24, 2022, 07:22:49 AM »
Glad to hear he is going well!
If he buys it you should so another Sweep the floor type thread!
Still one of my fav builds on this forum.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #395 on: May 26, 2022, 07:27:20 AM »
Glad to hear he is going well!
If he buys it you should so another Sweep the floor type thread!
Still one of my fav builds on this forum.

 I was taking a break from working on bikes for a while, but when they sort of fall in your lap.... well, if I do another project, it will probably be this '71 CB500:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190071.0.html

 I also have a couple more bikes incoming. Sort of the same story: wasn't looking, but someone reached out to me with deals too good to pass up. I'll have to decide what to keep and what to pass on.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #396 on: May 26, 2022, 09:48:37 AM »
I totally understand that.
Maybe just pick the extras up as well if you have the funding and resale. Make a few bucks.
I wish I could take a break from working on things sometimes but the goal is to be a old dude with cool stuff. So I've got years to go before I get there. Lol.


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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #397 on: June 04, 2022, 12:44:37 PM »
 So much for "No more old bikes for a while".
 A friend is moving to Costa Rica and offered me a screaming deal on his 1981 XS650 cafe/tracker, plus a truckload of other stuff.
 A quick trip to the low country (and a blow out on I-95) later, and this cool thing is in my garage. Titled, and about a weekend's worth of work away from being back on the road.

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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #398 on: June 04, 2022, 12:54:13 PM »
Scott,it looks fairly stripped-down,plus that's the first XS650 I've seen with a 2into1 exhaust.
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Re: The Lost Socket Garage
« Reply #399 on: June 04, 2022, 01:44:26 PM »
Sweet.
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