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Re: Build 201
« Reply #125 on: July 03, 2018, 05:35:15 am »
With a 160 rear tire, you’ll be running offset sprockets, yes? Bear in mind, the left bottom clevis on the Fox is bound to obstruct the chain fitment. The body of the shock is a few MM wide and thus you need to “shim” the clevis outboard to Clear the chain travel. That’s the big downside to those Fox shocks, they’re just not quite the right body size for these bikes.

But the fix is easy enough.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #126 on: July 03, 2018, 02:12:42 pm »
Daggless would you be willing to offload some parts that you no longer require??

looking for a good condition front fender or the mount/brace as a minimum and also a centre stand. mine are both in a pretty poor state..

Any help appreciated!

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #127 on: July 03, 2018, 04:41:38 pm »
With a 160 rear tire, you’ll be running offset sprockets, yes? Bear in mind, the left bottom clevis on the Fox is bound to obstruct the chain fitment. The body of the shock is a few MM wide and thus you need to “shim” the clevis outboard to Clear the chain travel. That’s the big downside to those Fox shocks, they’re just not quite the right body size for these bikes.

But the fix is easy enough.
Yes i have the offset sprockets and have also changed the sprockets over to 520. this has given a few precious millimeters of gap. as you have mentioned I made spacers to pull the clevis outwards. although it is still tight everything is clear and not touching. It would be nice to find decent suspension that can be fitted to the rear and still clear everything. Will have to keep looking.

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« Reply #128 on: July 03, 2018, 06:05:35 pm »
Try Wilbers shocks. Slimmer body, excellent quality. Or works Performance.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #129 on: July 04, 2018, 12:17:02 am »
Cheers cal. Will check them out.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #130 on: July 04, 2018, 12:21:49 am »
Time to fix all the small gremlins. The speedo isn't reading. I fitted the sensor to read off the front sprocket. It looks like it's a couple of mm out so will move it over a bit and see if that picks it up. Got the rear wheel back on and is now perfect. Lines up exactly as it should. Will get the tire on and then bolt it back on one last time. Rear brake line to fit and a bit of bleeding and that should be done.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #131 on: July 05, 2018, 10:09:12 am »
I've always wondered, what are the springs on the headers for?
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« Reply #132 on: July 05, 2018, 01:49:47 pm »
I've always wondered, what are the springs on the headers for?
That’s how the header tubes are connected to the spigots.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #133 on: July 05, 2018, 07:10:15 pm »
Much easier to remove/re-install headers and not have to use new crush washers.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #134 on: August 01, 2018, 01:07:00 am »
In holding pattern while we wait for new cr carbies to arrive. Tank is away being painted. Have been spending too much time looking at the seat trying to get the lines right and just wouldn't sit low enough at the back. Have been playing around with a buell rear cowl but still not sure so have decided to make a new seat pan and keep it simple. Not ideal to be fibreglassing at this stage but have sealed everything up as tight as. Just need to get some polish on and will lay down a few layers.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #135 on: August 01, 2018, 01:24:44 am »
Buell cowl.  Found a local company who produces all these lovely Carbon bike parts at really reasonable prices. It's nice to be able to support local. Not convinced on the look so heading down the custom seat pan route.
https://www.carbonworks.co.nz/
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2018, 01:49:19 am »
Just waiting for the cr carbies to arrive so taking the opportunity to fix all the little things. On start up noticed a small weep from the top cover. I previously had this repaired as Po had broken tab off and stuck everything back together with silastic. It looks like when everything is tightened up the rubber gasket isn't squished in 2 small spots. There are 2 small gouges from where the welds were cleaned up. Not big but just enough to take pressure off the gasket and allow a leak. Any ideas on best way to build the galley back up or pack the back side of the gasket?

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« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2018, 02:58:03 am »
Easiest thing would be to apply some JB Weld into the groove, then wipe away to level that surface. Let it harden up. Should be fine from there.

Use a wooden popsicle stick shaped and tapered to the groove, square end to wipe with like a brick layers trowel. Should level it up nicely.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #138 on: October 08, 2018, 08:41:35 pm »
Been busy with a bit of travelling for work so time in the shed has been limited. got stuck into the seat to get it finished off. i stuck the foam down and shaped it but needed the professionals to do the leather cover. came up a treat and looks real sharp on the bike. still waiting for carbies. only been 4 months since i ordered them   :'(. tank is still away getting painted but should have it back next week. push is on to get this one done.

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« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2018, 10:23:25 pm »
Arrived home today with a lovely surprise on the front doorstep. Getting close now.  :)

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« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2018, 03:34:14 am »
The Postman left a roller project in the letterbox? Dang, I only ever get solicitations and bills  >:(
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #141 on: October 22, 2018, 10:07:14 am »
The Postman left a roller project in the letterbox? Dang, I only ever get solicitations and bills  >:(


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« Reply #142 on: October 22, 2018, 11:04:30 am »
Daggles,

I can't recall what you have in store for your petrol tank?
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #143 on: October 22, 2018, 06:33:35 pm »
The Postman left a roller project in the letterbox? Dang, I only ever get solicitations and bills  >:(

And all i get are letters from the customs department stating i owe them large amounts of cash as i havent paid enough taxes on all the shiny motorcycle parts i buy from the USA.. ::) ;D

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #144 on: October 22, 2018, 06:36:44 pm »
Daggles,

I can't recall what you have in store for your petrol tank?

I am fitting a CB650 tank that i recessed a vfr 400 gas cap into. should have it back from the painters this week. 

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2018, 01:25:02 am »
You know a custom tail light that spans the area from the rear of the shocks and wraps completely around and had integrated taillight (red) and amber lenses that would cover the frame would be cool. Getting a large sheet of reflector plastic in Red and a clear Amber sheet would be cool. Then you back light with Eagle Eye 1W led array to have wrap around Amber turn signals beneath that surfboard seat (sorry not a brat fan and I am refraining from calling it a brat seat) with seamless transition to the red reflectorized tail light lense. The only problem is the eagle eye LEDs are long and encapsulated with epoxy (I think) in their aluminum heat sink and threaded body. So, you would fit them pointing outward on the sides tucked up under the seat with some pointed down to light the area that covers the frame. Paint the frame or internal backing/ reflector white or a reflective solve or a highly polished aluminum sheet that has been sprayed with a clear urethane or polyurethane to maintain that gloss...or carefully use aluminum foil. If you make the assembly of the lense and body water and air tight then the aluminum should not corrode or oxidize into white rust or develop dark spots. The Eagle Eyes are very bright in Amber and pretty bright in Red...red being a more difficult color to have high intensity and broad dispersion. They both are blinding my bright and with reflectorized plastic would direct the LED's light into a broader area. With six leds as Running light and an additional six or more serving as the brake light you would have a super bright tail and brake light. A wooden form for your lense and a heat gun is all you need to reshape most of the transparent reflector material. Removing part of the diamond shaped peaks on the back may be needed to form tighter bends than the diamond material would allow. You can block sand the smooth side if you get a spot or two that needs leveled starting with 800 grit and working your way to 1000, 1500, and 2000 followed by a good plastic polish. Plastic polishing cannot be done on a buffer unless you can reduce the buffer speed to around 150 rpm at max. Most buffers are either 1500 or 3500/3600 rpm. 1500 is actually the best speed for a metal buffer. Plastic can be done with a variable speed drill and buffing wheel if you can lock the speed low and you keep the buff wheel moving across the area being buffed, not lingering in one place or you can melt the plastic and ruin your hard work. Buffing by hand will not have this issue.
Your seams between amber and red have to be sanded to eliminate the line. The clear plastic modeling glue in a bottle will melt the plastic to form a nice solid connection between the amber and red and you make your sheet oversized before bending and trim to shape after you  have bent it and flattened any waves or ripples you get.  I am hesitant to suggest you build a frame to capture the plastic and heat it to where it starts to sag as the diamond pattern will most likely be lost or distorted. You would need to heat the solid sheet more. Guess you could make it all from reflectorized plastic that the back has the diamond pattern the difracts the light and the other side is smooth plastic.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #146 on: November 04, 2018, 12:14:53 am »
Thanks for the ideas RAF. I’ve already fitted a generic light but will keep it in mind for future builds. I will also take surfboard seat as wasn’t looking to build a brat. Tank arrived back from painters. It’s a Mercedes Color and has turned out nice. Just trying to fit up a tank strap to give it a bit of old school cool. Carbies arrived and fitted them up. Having trouble fitting the filters. Will need to trim back the manifolds to get some room.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #147 on: November 04, 2018, 12:37:20 am »
Was a beautiful day today so took the bike up the road for 1st shakedown. All feeling pretty good. Just need to balance carbs and tune them up a bit more. Running too rich at the moment. Need to paint up the Honda tank badges and get them fitted. Pretty happy with the look. Off for compliance checks next week so hoping it flies through so I can get it registered.

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« Reply #148 on: November 04, 2018, 04:00:03 am »
Good work and very nice bike!
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« Reply #149 on: November 04, 2018, 01:33:37 pm »
Are those CR26s?
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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html)

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