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Re: Build 201
« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2018, 08:57:10 AM »
The front GSXR fork looks good.  You may want to consider (down the road, if not now) a new set of triple trees.  The stock offset of the GSXR fork is much smaller than that of the CB550.  Using the smaller offset changes the geometry of the bike and can make the bike both twitchy and feel wants to fall into corners.  Given the amount you've spent on wheels, tires and other upgrades, this may be worth it.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2018, 02:05:29 AM »
Looking good there.....

There are specs in the manual for rear swing arm pivot if you look closer...specs for the collar diameter and internal bush diameter, you need a bore gauge to measure the inside correctly though.

I posted this in someone else's thread a few weeks ago...

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,171903.msg2001361.html#msg2001361

If its tight that's a good thing, you can use a small brake cylinder hone to resize once fitted...they may just be slightly out of round after being pressed in also...clearance ive been told to shoot for 0.01-0.025mm.

I ended up having to buy a new collar which gave me a loose fit with those bronze bushes....resorted to making my own bushes out of bronze...was still a bit of trial and error getting a good fit once pressed in.

Cheers rosewood. Will give them a bit of a hone to get the clearance correct.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2018, 02:15:08 AM »
The front GSXR fork looks good.  You may want to consider (down the road, if not now) a new set of triple trees.  The stock offset of the GSXR fork is much smaller than that of the CB550.  Using the smaller offset changes the geometry of the bike and can make the bike both twitchy and feel wants to fall into corners.  Given the amount you've spent on wheels, tires and other upgrades, this may be worth it.

Will keep that in mind once I get her moving. If there's any nervousness then new triples it is. Shipping and exchange rates can make the eyes water sometimes. I try to keep within a budget but then find lots of new shiny stuff that turns into must haves. :-)

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2018, 07:17:02 AM »
Here's a photo of the Cognitomoto adjustable offset triple trees for your forks.  It allows you to run different offsets, so if you change to 18" or 17" wheels you can adjust the offset accordingly.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2018, 12:28:04 PM »
Swingarm back in. A bit of a hone of the new bushes and pivot pushed in nicely. I was struggling with getting the arm back in with the dust caps on. Measured everything and was only a smidge in it but buggered if it would go back in. A coffee and think time and was just getting the jack out to spread the frame when I turned the whole frame upside down. The swing arm then slid back in with a couple of small persuasive taps to line it up. Almost like the underneath is slightly tapered. Perhaps I'm just lucky or it is ever so slightly worn from the underneath. Either way I will take the win without having to rig up the jack. Don't want any scratches on the finished product.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #80 on: May 25, 2018, 12:34:03 PM »
Milestone reached last night. Motor is finally back in the frame. did the old motor on its side on the floor and lifted frame over the top. Looks so wrong with it on its side but excellent way to get it back in. Couldn't bring myself to take a photo of it laid over. Onto the controls and then the fun part. WIRING !!!!!

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #81 on: May 25, 2018, 08:42:44 PM »
It's starting to look like a motorcycle again!  Great looking motor!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2018, 09:37:05 PM »
Tarozzis fitted with Gcraft reservoir. Keeps everything compact and tidy.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2018, 09:40:17 PM »
It's starting to look like a motorcycle again!  Great looking motor!

Really happy with the look of the motor. was a bit worried with the amount of black but it's looking ok at the moment. Still haven't fully decided on tank color but will put it on soon and see what color combo matches.

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« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2018, 01:42:12 AM »
Momentary switches all wired. I wish I could say they were easy and I really enjoyed doing them but geez they are fiddly. Just have to fit the plugs into end of bars and all sealed up. Blinkers on. Motogadget, solenoid and regulator/ rectifier in place. Steering damper on. A busy but rewarding day.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2018, 09:46:56 AM »
It's starting to look like a motorcycle again!  Great looking motor!

Really happy with the look of the motor. was a bit worried with the amount of black but it's looking ok at the moment. Still haven't fully decided on tank color but will put it on soon and see what color combo matches.

When you murder out a bike, the use of color becomes more important.  Here the eye is going to go to the gold wheels, so you will want some color that will balance/complement the gold.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2018, 02:48:00 AM »
And then the fun starts. Using the new motogadget blue on this one. The basic wiring is fairly easy. It's just the add ons like speedo that confuse the issue. Lots of reading of diagrams and backwards and forwards to the gadget book. A bit of head scratching and more reading. Then another wire goes in. Then more reading. Just takes time.

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« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2018, 05:24:51 PM »
Looks so clean and tight and the stance of that bike is going to be beautiful.  I'm right behind you with my first m.unit Blue install and complete rewiring, so I'll be following along closely. 
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« Reply #88 on: May 30, 2018, 12:26:23 AM »
I find it a LOT easier to work from the push buttons on either side to the M-Unit. Think of it this way: everything on the left side of the M-Unit is a control signal "input". Everything on the right side is "switched power", or a service loom.

I separate the LH and RH input wires into 2 separate looms, routed down the backbone on their opposite side (for lock-lock) length. Then punch them down into the M-Unit.

Coming out of the M-Unit, I break down the FL and FR service looms into their own sheathing. I also run a set of power wires forward to serve the gauges, ignition, and any other needs. I run  a single loom rearward to serve the LR and RR indicators, a single BRAKE/TAIL wire, and you're done.

If you are using your mobile to function as your gauge, that eliminates a few power wires, but replaces those with sensors. I've wired so many of these things up, it takes me now about 5 hours start-to-finish if all components are in place and materials in hand.

Overall, your bike is coming very nicely (again) and looks the teets  8)

5 hours !!!  Geez Cal. It took me that long to read the instructions. Sometimes overthinking it leads to doubts. When you take it back to its basics there's only 5 wires going from front to back and a couple of extras back the other way.  My eyes keep getting diverted to the 25 wires that the speedo is asking for. I might throw a rag over it and get the basics done then tackle it seperately.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2018, 09:44:51 PM »
Getting stuck into the wiring. Rear blinkers and stop light done. Working on front of the bike now. Installed the power arc map switch. Gives the option of 4 different ignition maps. You can rest easy Cal. Your 5 hour record is safe on this build. Burnt that up just on the rear lights :-)

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« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2018, 11:26:55 PM »
Just about there with the wiring. Everything turns on and off, speedo lights up and starter engages when pressed. Will tidy everything up now so it looks organised. Ran out of wiring plugs so hopefully will arrive this week and can then finish off the headlight. Next on the list are the cr carbies. 

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2018, 11:35:18 PM »
Finished the welding of the gas cap. Turned out nice. Need to clean and reline the inside next. A friend recommended Kleen instead of por15. Does anyone have a preference?

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2018, 03:35:50 AM »
Electrolysis on the tank would be a good idea I think, then a Caswell liner...
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2018, 03:20:27 AM »
Finished wiring tonight. Only had to change the hi/Lo beam headlight wires around but everything else seems to be working as it should. Pretty happy that's out of the way. Por15 turns up tomorrow so will attack the tank on the weekend. Just need the carbies to arrive and we can hit the go button. Still have to read the speedo manual to get that set up. The new motogadget is very nice. will have to re read that manual as well. Sooo much reading!!! 

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2018, 04:37:18 AM »
The master cylinder looks like it’s full of engine oil  ??? What brake fluid did you use?

I don't think its filled yet.  The tube below the res isn't full.  Looks like the res might me part black plastic.
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2018, 07:06:56 AM »
The master cylinder looks like it’s full of engine oil  ??? What brake fluid did you use?

I don't think its filled yet.  The tube below the res isn't full.  Looks like the res might me part black plastic.

Anodized billet aluminum -- http://www.rizoma.com/universal/fluid-tanks/ct137-wave/en
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2018, 12:11:02 PM »
Nice work on completing the wiring and congrats. 
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Re: Build 201
« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2018, 11:55:51 PM »
Nice work on completing the wiring and congrats.

Cheers DurangoCB. starting to tick off the small milestones. She's starting to look like a bike again.

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2018, 11:58:43 PM »
The master cylinder looks like it’s full of engine oil  ??? What brake fluid did you use?

I don't think its filled yet.  The tube below the res isn't full.  Looks like the res might me part black plastic.

Anodized billet aluminum -- http://www.rizoma.com/universal/fluid-tanks/ct137-wave/en

Correct. It's the look of the Rizoma wave. Mind you I did have to look at the picture twice. Mmmm engine oil for brake fluid. Bet I wouldn't have been the first to try that one. :-)

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Re: Build 201
« Reply #99 on: June 20, 2018, 12:13:08 AM »
The por15 didn't turn up until today so will attack the tank this week. Going to have to find somewhere warm to do it. It's only hitting about 10 degrees Celsius during the days. Have been fitting throttle cables, brake lines, clutch cable and doing the wheel alignment. Exhaust is being ceramic coated and will be back this week. Should be able to fit the tyres next week and get her standing up by herself :-). Working on the seat upholstery so as soon as carbies arrive should be all ready to hit the start button. Getting close.
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