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Offline BPellerine

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replacement vin tags
« on: September 03, 2017, 05:30:53 PM »
where do you buy replacement vin tags for the cb 750s with all the info already on them?bill
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 07:46:15 PM »
On ebay, he even makes them for AMEN frames that never had them! Makes them for everything in Switzerland.
 I think in some cases  it's not a good thing.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 07:52:06 PM by 754 »
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 05:50:59 AM »
yes I could see where someone could use them to fool someone,but my frame is legit,thanks bill
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 06:39:42 AM »
My understanding is that they are not exact replicas. It seems from his description  the VIN# is printed and not embossed. I tried to correspond with him thru ebay questions and got no response.

Isn't your VIN# stamped on the opposite side from the tag??

Not in Switzerland.....Indiana............Link below Just FYI...not endorsing him in any way
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Motorcycle-CB450-CB650-CB750-VIN-NUMBER-ID-Plate-Emblem-TAG-Engraved-/162569054868?epid=690051243&hash=item25d9deea94:g:HsEAAOSwImRYPKiK&vxp=mtr
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 07:06:00 AM »
 I bought from one guy on ebay after the sandblaster ruined my tag. It looks good but is a decal. I put it on a piece of aluminum made from a car show dash plaque. Read carefully.  The original tag is stamped with a reverse stamp from behind if I remember correctly.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 07:37:05 AM »
Yes...OEM tags were embossed from the rear, that is raised stamped letters and numbers.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 08:06:20 AM »
yes vin no is stamped on the frame,it is a 69 frame so want the tag on there to look correct,mine was taken off to blast by po,thanks.bill
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 08:16:51 AM »
I have bought  a couple from the Switzerland Seller and have found them to be of pretty good quality. They are Aluminum and come with the rivets.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 08:25:32 AM »
does he engrave?bill
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 08:35:06 AM »
It's not engraving but he puts the numbers you tell him on it. As far as VIN Tags go his are the best reproductions I have found. They come with adhesive and the rivets. A trick I did was to take a piece of PVC pipe cut in half and using another piece form the tag a bit to get it more circular as it comes flat. Probably an anal move but just something to make it conform to the neck a bit better.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 08:40:08 AM »
Here is what I worry about,
A guy has say an Amen  frame, puts his stock frame numbers in, and runs it.
Sells the bike, goes to another state, (needs Inspection  to register) or simply at one point gets pulled over by a cop that knows bikes well, and gets pulled off the road,  for running stock numbers.
 That and you have a bogus number tag, that was NEVER available from that frame manufacturer.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 08:43:10 AM »
Here is what I worry about,
A guy has say an Amen  frame, puts his stock frame numbers in, and runs it.
Sells the bike, goes to another state, (needs Inspection  to register) or simply at one point gets pulled over by a cop that knows bikes well, and gets pulled off the road,  for running stock numbers.
 That and you have a bogus number tag, that was NEVER available from that frame manufacturer.
The Amen frames have numbers right? As long as the tag numbers match the frame numbers it's not a problem.
If there's no frame number use the engine number. (yeah, I know the engine might get changed later.)
« Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 08:46:17 AM by CycleRanger »
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 08:47:41 AM »
Yes those look properly embossed. As far as potential problems I don't see much trouble if you have a legitimate title with legitimate VIN.

Here in Wisconsin we have a different issue. The frame numbers never match the VIN on the title/registration because the original titles were issued with the engine numbers as the VIN (up until early 80"s).
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 08:49:08 AM »
On the first page of a 750F resto I did is a pic of the Switzerland Guy's tag if you want to see one on a bike.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,152712.0.html
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2017, 09:16:28 AM »
At this point , not sure if Amen had numbers, but they should have had, and they would be unique to them.

What I am talking about is people using their Honda numbers as a frame number, which opens a big can of worms.
The only legit way out of that mess. . if the bike cops notice the irregularity....Maybe... is if you happen to have the old neck with you at the time, or Notarized proof it was destroyed.
 Stamping numbers from one manufacturer, onto a frame built by someone else, is still a numbers job, which often leads to confiscation.
 We had a bike squad here that followed around certain club members and certain events, when we went there,  we were scrutinised,  by them guys, photographed m sometimes numbers checked, things like that.
 At Sturgis they had checkstops and were checking numbers and I know a local here who lost his frame, which was actually legit.. so it happens.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 09:46:17 AM by 754 »
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2017, 09:38:41 AM »
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 09:46:51 AM »
 Well said Peter,well said---   (slow clap)   ;)

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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 05:24:18 PM »
Bill, if it is a '69, it may not have had a tag originally. I'm not sure when Honda started using the tag on the 750s but it was sometime after frame number 1800 and before 3000.
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 04:18:34 AM »
I will check the neck for traces of one having been there,thanks bill
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 08:54:35 AM »
I got mine from here

http://www.khneisser.ch/

Now i got mine about 2 years ago and at the time the VIN was engraved rather than the outward embossing on the original. I doubt it will ever be an issue but i still have the original mutilated tag if there ever is an issue. maybe he has changed his method to be more accurate in the last few years???
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 09:10:41 AM »
These look embossed.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CT70-SL-CB-CL-125-250-450-750-Z50A-VIN-NUMBER-ID-Plate-DATA-PLATE-TAG/282426202342
I'm wondering how to communicate the date and number, it says, engraved or embossed for additional cost. I'd buy one or two
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Re: replacement vin tags
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 12:48:19 PM »
I bought this one to my K2 that did not have a frame number plate. Now it has, I'll drill the covered holes in frame and rivet it into place.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB750-registered-type-name-plate-identification-/361613697610?hash=item5431db224a

I stamped the numbers with similar stamp number height as Honda. I did it better, I flattened the plate after punching all numbers. Honda did not do that on my K6 plate.
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