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Offline T1m32sh1n3

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Ape rods
« on: October 07, 2020, 04:13:52 AM »
Does anyone know why ape doesnt sell their rods anymore?
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 05:30:18 AM »
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 07:14:37 AM »
In the past they did small batches with probably 90% of them presold. It is expensive inventory to just have sit there. The rods were made by Crower. Check out the CycleX Super Rod with the ARP bolts.
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 09:06:19 AM »
I bought a set of the Ape rods a few years ago i guess, man time flies! Trying to gather other odds and ends now so i can start the build.
 I do have another question...... regarding rod bolt stretch. Instructions say to tighten the rod bolts to .0055 stretch. How do you measure stretch on the rod bolt? Micrometer?
 Also as far as plastiguage goes. What would i torque the rod bolts too while plastiguaging?
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 10:29:41 AM »
Quote from: MRieck on October 07, 2020, 07:14:37 AM
In the past they did small batches with probably 90% of them presold. It is expensive inventory to just have sit there. The rods were made by Crower. Check out the CycleX Super Rod with the ARP bolts.

That batch had to have 8 sets sold to be ordered. Same with his first 1000 kits.
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2020, 12:44:40 PM »
Quote from: T1m32sh1n3 on October 07, 2020, 09:06:19 AM
I bought a set of the Ape rods a few years ago i guess, man time flies! Trying to gather other odds and ends now so i can start the build.
 I do have another question...... regarding rod bolt stretch. Instructions say to tighten the rod bolts to .0055 stretch. How do you measure stretch on the rod bolt? Micrometer?
 Also as far as plastiguage goes. What would i torque the rod bolts too while plastiguaging?
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2020, 12:59:43 PM »
Thanks.
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2020, 04:57:42 PM »
Well that is 2 sets not in use yet..
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2020, 05:58:46 PM »
Quote from: T1m32sh1n3 on October 07, 2020, 12:59:43 PM
Thanks.

Sometimes especially with new rods and bolts  there are special instructions included for torquing.
I would follow those instructions if included. Sometimes the instructions call for torquing to a specific torque, backing it off, retorquing again sometimes to a higher torque, backing it off, and finally torquing to the specified stretch to achieve the proper mating/ seating of the bolt/nut to the new rod cap...some oem rod bolts call for special lubricant to be used during torquing....other specify engine oil...I like to use Loctite and bolt stretch when I can...
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2020, 10:09:29 AM »
 Some rod bolts need 3 tightenings to break in to proper torque and spec. a total number before replacement. Moral of the story, don't wear them out with the plastigauge.
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Re: Ape rods
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2020, 06:59:07 AM »
The APE rods are torque to stretch. They recommend 0.0055” stretch, worked out to about 33ft/lbs for me. You have to use the special lube that they include.
 You can re-use the ARP 2000 bolts as many times as you like, long as they haven’t stretched more than 0.001 of an inch.
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