Author Topic: Early Sandcast Found...... (Read 93376 times)

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #475 on:** December 29, 2021, 12:04:28 PM »

Don, I have never seen any where you actually can draw the d washers tight. If they are captured, you have way over-torqued. That is why I never understood what the big deal with these has become. What was Honda's purpose of installing them?

RAFster122s · « **Reply #476 on:** December 29, 2021, 01:54:57 PM »

I think it wasHonda’s attempt to prevent a ham fisted mechanic of over torquing the pinch bolts leading to cracked triple tree clamps from fatigue from the jolts if they could torque them closed to begin with….

Don R · « **Reply #477 on:** December 29, 2021, 02:55:57 PM »

Agreed. I have several broken ones, a couple done by myself, believing you were supposed to draw them tight.

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #478 on:** December 29, 2021, 03:03:20 PM »

Quote from: Don R on December 29, 2021, 08:35:26 AM

My replacement K0 fork tubes seem a bit oversize. Watch out for that when tightening the top triple. I can't draw the D washers up tight.

Don…. I found the same thing last time I used a set! Where did you get yours? I think I went to CycleEx. My originals are not bad, I may reuse them.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #479 on:** December 30, 2021, 01:55:25 AM »

I've actually had a "Rhino" top triple that wasn't busted, but the gap was so tight with no bolt in it that I couldn't fit a D washer in it!

PeWe · « **Reply #480 on:** December 30, 2021, 03:46:23 AM »

I had to check my K2 with US rhino. Yes, the D washers sit loose, rattling.
I doubt the fork tubes are too wide. They should be tricky to fit the trees then. I put a screwdriver in each opening open them a little more to ensure no scratches in the chrome when assembled it.

It has tubes from cyclex 2013. I later ordered a set from davidsilver uk that had same wrapping around them. I think it was a Korean company. I see same wrapping from German sellers too.

Can the earlier stock tubes be thinner at the upper part?
I measured old Honda tubes from 1974-75. Same diameter.

That washer must be a stopper for muscular truck mecanics?
The later version has a thinner bolt here, M6, not M8 as the earlier. Probably to stop the guys with 1/2" socket wrenches.

69cb750 · « **Reply #481 on:** December 30, 2021, 06:40:37 AM »

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Don, I have never seen any where you actually can draw the d washers tight. If they are captured, you have way over-torqued. That is why I never understood what the big deal with these has become. What was Honda's purpose of installing them?

The purpose was to protect the clamp, the D washers are to thin.
Two bikes came with D washers and broken clamps.

Don R · « **Reply #482 on:** January 04, 2022, 10:41:29 AM »

I'm thinking my fork tubes were from 4-1 or one of the other ebay suppliers. Probably china made. Forks by Frank were not shipping back then.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #483 on:** January 04, 2022, 05:01:24 PM »

Is "Forking by Frank" still in operation? I bought some 2" over tubes from them 20 years ago, was very impressed.

Don R · « **Reply #484 on:** January 04, 2022, 05:15:58 PM »

https://www.franksforks.com/ I think the original frank is no longer with us.

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #485 on:** January 04, 2022, 05:40:02 PM »

Quote from: Don R on January 04, 2022, 05:15:58 PM

https://www.franksforks.com/ I think the original frank is no longer with us.

Don… thanks for the link! I sent for a quote and will try Franks.

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #486 on:** January 05, 2022, 07:09:34 AM »

Yesterday I was looking at my fuel tank. It’s a true wrinkle tank, with four clear indents for the carb tops, in the bottom panel. Somewhere here (years ago) I remember reading about wrinkle tanks without the recesses.....

Anyone have more details? Thanks!

69cb750 · « **Reply #487 on:** January 05, 2022, 08:05:27 AM »

Early sandcast tanks do not have indent
Later sandcast tanks have the indent, the change gave throttle cables more room.

Prospect · « **Reply #488 on:** January 05, 2022, 03:44:56 PM »

Correct. Also, the early ones had larger capacity by two litres. Apparently there is a 2 dimple tank version as well. So Honda went from no diplme to two dimples to four dimples.

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #489 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:24:24 AM »

Quote from: 69cb750 on January 05, 2022, 08:05:27 AM

Early sandcast tanks do not have indent
Later sandcast tanks have the indent, the change gave throttle cables more room.

Interesting...... mines’s pretty early, #1250. It clearly has the 4 dimples.

atm cycles · « **Reply #490 on:** January 06, 2022, 04:45:56 PM »

Quote from: BenelliSEI on January 06, 2022, 06:24:24 AM

Quote from: 69cb750 on January 05, 2022, 08:05:27 AM
Early sandcast tanks do not have indent
Later sandcast tanks have the indent, the change gave throttle cables more room.

Interesting...... mines’s pretty early, #1250. It clearly has the 4 dimples.

What’s the date code? Yours should be double wrinkle tank like the red one

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #491 on:** January 06, 2022, 05:47:15 PM »

Quote from: atm cycles on January 06, 2022, 04:45:56 PM

Quote from: BenelliSEI on January 06, 2022, 06:24:24 AM
Quote from: 69cb750 on January 05, 2022, 08:05:27 AM
Early sandcast tanks do not have indent
Later sandcast tanks have the indent, the change gave throttle cables more room.

Interesting...... mines’s pretty early, #1250. It clearly has the 4 dimples.
What’s the date code? Yours should be double wrinkle tank like the red one

It’s too early for a VIN plate or date code. Tank looks identical to the red one. I’ll take a picture next time.

atm cycles · « **Reply #492 on:** January 06, 2022, 05:56:19 PM »

Date code on the tank

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #493 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:02:38 PM »

Quote from: atm cycles on January 06, 2022, 05:56:19 PM

Date code on the tank

Where? Thanks!

atm cycles · « **Reply #494 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:03:52 PM »

I’m trying. Says file too large

atm cycles · « **Reply #495 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:08:11 PM »

Underside. Where rear rubber holder is

Prospect · « **Reply #496 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:10:18 PM »

The date code is underneath by where the rubber absorber attaches. Near the side closer to the seat. Where you see all those little indentations.

Prospect · « **Reply #497 on:** January 06, 2022, 06:16:00 PM »

Usually starts with a 4 followed by some other numbers which relate to the anniversary of the swearing in of the Japanese emperor.

atm cycles · « **Reply #498 on:** January 07, 2022, 01:19:24 PM »

4 3 then something between 1-31 ?

BenelliSEI · « **Reply #499 on:** January 07, 2022, 04:37:45 PM »

Looked today, but may have missed them. Definitely “double wrinkle”.....

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