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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #300 on: June 23, 2025, 08:31:19 PM »
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #301 on: June 24, 2025, 06:53:40 AM »
Much progress today.  The trailer and the turbo both getting upgrades.

That turbocharger is beautiful!  Brand?
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #302 on: June 24, 2025, 12:24:12 PM »
Much progress today.  The trailer and the turbo both getting upgrades.

That turbocharger is beautiful!  Brand?

Thats another ihi clone from maxpeedingrods.  Rhf4 series spec for a shibaru tractor.
A step up from the worlds smallest turbo.  More flow, more efficiency, and an average a/r on a 1.25 inch exhaust inlet.  Will see how well 550cc's spools it.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #303 on: June 29, 2025, 01:05:00 PM »
With the carb positioned in its new home.  I grabbed the pieces i ordered for the naca/cold air intake.

Without cutting anything, the initial result is bonkers.  Using the silicone elbow as an adapter puts it where it needs to go, but at the wrongest approach angle.

I could probably make it work if clamped direct to the carburetor

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #304 on: June 30, 2025, 12:49:27 AM »
The new turbo is connected.  Kept the up'n'over pipe.  After seeing that the hot inlet wasn't far off of where it used to be.  Took a few minutes with the torch and a pipe wrench to move it over the new target.  A little extra ring of 1.25 pipe made it all come together.

Spent the latter half of the day cutting and welding the new exit pipes.  Bigger turbine dump, and a more elegant waste outlet.  Not having to scrounge materials on a shoestring budget allowed this upgrade to become what it should have been in the first place.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #305 on: June 30, 2025, 07:57:46 PM »
Different coupler, cut as short as possible.  Trimmed the naca ducts round tube to squeeze in close wth a decent angle.  This should do well enough to start pattern making an air duct

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #306 on: July 04, 2025, 01:41:36 PM »
Completely field stripped the carburetor for service.  Even though it had been left in a neat condition after the races.  The last few months of Pacific coast moisture took their toll.
Nothing some berrymans cant fix.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #307 on: July 05, 2025, 06:38:28 AM »
Completely field stripped the carburetor for service.  Even though it had been left in a neat condition after the races.  The last few months of Pacific coast moisture took their toll.
Nothing some berrymans cant fix.

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Are you using fuel with ethanol in it?
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #308 on: July 05, 2025, 11:11:38 PM »
Completely field stripped the carburetor for service.
Are you using fuel with ethanol in it?

Not really.  Low amount of methanol in the race gas.
I think something snuck in during the wash down.
Could be star-brite boat soap for all i know. 
Was pretty aggressive trying to get the salt away. 

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #309 on: July 06, 2025, 08:44:58 AM »
Completely field stripped the carburetor for service.
Are you using fuel with ethanol in it?

Not really.  Low amount of methanol in the race gas.
I think something snuck in during the wash down.
Could be star-brite boat soap for all i know. 
Was pretty aggressive trying to get the salt away.
Any of the oxygenated fuels are really hard on parts....especially carbs (as opposed to FI systems). Even straight  designer race fuels can be hard on parts. Combine that with all the salt particles in the air and you get a real witches brew.
 
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #310 on: July 06, 2025, 09:31:16 AM »
Completely field stripped the carburetor for service.
Are you using fuel with ethanol in it?

Not really.  Low amount of methanol in the race gas.
I think something snuck in during the wash down.
Could be star-brite boat soap for all i know. 
Was pretty aggressive trying to get the salt away.
Any of the oxygenated fuels are really hard on parts....especially carbs (as opposed to FI systems). Even straight  designer race fuels can be hard on parts. Combine that with all the salt particles in the air and you get a real witches brew.

Yeah, i'm still mad that everything looked good in the desert.  But introducing it to PNW 80-90% humidity messed it up.

Have taken to applying boeshield t9 on the stuff i can't afford to rust

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #311 on: July 06, 2025, 12:00:15 PM »
Peeled the intake manifold off to weld on the new charge pipe.
Its a scoche larger.  Centered on the old hole well enough - and the turbo is within fractions of alignment.  Nothing the silicone coupler won't handle.
Roughed up the inside with the 60 grit drum in hopes of atomizing the fuel.
Gotta finish the oil outlet adapter for ze turrrblow.  Can't mail order anything for this oddball.

Considering sending the 3 sections of turbo pipe to a coating shop.  As you can see, what was under pipe wrap previously developed the usual layer of rust.
The shop also offers a thermal dispersant coating for intakes.  Might be worth the extra $$.  Considering this bike ran better stone cold.

Next step, fix a cylinder stud, again. Something to do while the pipes are away

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #312 on: July 06, 2025, 12:10:11 PM »
The side project is nearing its completion too.
It was pretty beat up over the years.  With all the reinforcement and accessories.  Should be able to get to the track in style.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #313 on: July 16, 2025, 08:43:08 PM »
Tore down the top end over the weekend.
Found out why the stud was losing torque holding.  It wasn't ARP's fault.  That stud was fine.  The stud holding the tools however... Ugh
Assessed the damage and decided chasing threads and sending the time sert deep into the block would do.  And it did.  With some help from jb-weld and the long end of the ARP stick.  The head went back on with 22 foot pounds of torque.  .
010" Cometic aluminum base gasket put the pistons .0075"  below deck.  And the .040 head gasket is still enough to clearance the valves after the face job on the head.  Of course, hand pocketing the relief in the pistons years ago helped some.  This arrangement took several thousands out of the equation from my previous blueprint.  Should have a static compression ratio of 9.2:1 now.  Up a whole digit from last year.

Relying on the factory 650 cam timing mark for tdc, i did bump the crank back a scoche.  That 2-3 degree advance is a safe place to leave it.  Why advance it?  Because i learned what the bike actually needed last season.  Which was a bigger hp bump in the 6-7krpm range.  More than the stock-stock cam timing provided.  I want to pull through 5th gear this year.

The coating shop did its thing to my pipes and intake.  They even touched up a weld during the prep.  Worth the cost, and the color came out perfect.  Will have to take the 4into1 to them over winter.  I like the thermal dispersant black on the intake.  Looks smart, lets hope it works smart.

Smarter than my home made gasket.  Smoke tested the intake seal and was disappointed.  Worked a little bit at improving the seal and ended gluing layers of copper foil together.  Which got 98% of the leaks.  Late in the evening, i put the thing on with permatex and let it set up before fully torquing it.
Learned a lesson in torquing copper gaskets.  M6 studs and a stubby wrench will never squish dead soft annealed copper the way it likes to be squished.  So, i've planned for contingencies.  1100 series aluminum isn't cheap, but i ordered some.  Along with some rem branded graphite gasket material and a fresh can of copper coat.
I'll get that intake seal boost proofed, somehow. 

Since the motor is together again, decided to run a compression test and get a feel for the intake vacuum. Turns out, not a lot of vacuum at the turbo inlet develops when all the plugs are out of the head.  But with a new compression tester of an affordable gauge on a metal stick variety.  The new motor pumps 160psi across all four.

Next on the to-do list - fit and finish the turbo drain adapter, and craft the naca duct box.  the dimensions of the airbox should be enough to scoop up a whole engine worth of air.  comparatively similar to the new hdmc se intake.  will be quite an adornment to the right side of the bike.  may even wrap it with more of that prismatic vinyl.

Need to calibrate my boost pressure switch to half a bar and make sure dynatek sensor is on the mark too.
Started trimming the fat from my electrical setup.  And need to fix the fuse holder on my relay switches.

That cheap fuse gave me a heart attack when the 12v system didn't come online after id been welding pipe in situ.  I had all circuits lifted open during the cage and pipe job.  With the expensive bits in a box on the shelf for safe keeping.  So will be reinstating all that soon and will test run when the time is right.

Gotta work on the trailer as well.  Got stainless rods to make pins for the ramp holster.  gonna be fun to drill through for the hitch pins.  need some cable for idiot cords too.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #314 on: July 20, 2025, 10:35:10 PM »
Spent the day off assembling the turbos oil system.  And the first prototype of the naca ram box.

The oil return came out swell.  The air box may be total overkill.  Built large enough to trim back as necessary.

Bolting the naca duct to the box was a fight.  Sealant everywhere.  I may have drawn blood.  But its all being kept in by the permatex.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #315 on: July 20, 2025, 10:42:37 PM »
Sure kicked it into overdrive today.  Up with the sun then building this thing until the moon was high.
Forgot to eat lunch.  By the end, the hangry was coming out.

Tomorrow, i'll have to bend some bar stock into support brackets for this.
Need to dig through my box of race bike stuff and find the ignition controller too.
With some fresh oil and filter it might be worth getting it running.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #316 on: July 20, 2025, 11:37:05 PM »
This is a representation of how i feel

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #317 on: July 20, 2025, 11:47:41 PM »
You're doing great work.

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #318 on: July 21, 2025, 06:56:37 AM »
1 month til B Day

Good progress. What else needs to be done?
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #319 on: July 21, 2025, 07:42:48 AM »
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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #320 on: July 21, 2025, 07:47:29 AM »
1 month til B Day

Good progress. What else needs to be done?

With the big fabrication mods nearing completion.  Theres a bunch of small tasks to pick off.
Once the bike is back online.  The attention will go to packing the trailer for the trip.

Ordered replacement float bowl and accellerator pump for the carb.  Even after chemical cleaning, its having fits.

Need to buy a pail of race gas.  I still have last seasons RM109 unleaded oxygenated.  Which packs a 9% o2 concentration at 13.6 stoich.  But renegade introduced an RM boost series.  124+ octane leaded fuel with 5% o2.  And a stoich of 14.5.  costs are the same. Detonation resistance on the other hand

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #321 on: July 21, 2025, 07:50:45 AM »
I enjoy following this thread BM650....

Thanks for reading my landspeed blog 😅

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« Reply #322 on: July 21, 2025, 08:43:55 AM »
I enjoy following this thread BM650....

Thanks for reading my landspeed blog 😅

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Over 31,000 views now, I'm not shocked, it's the most interesting project on the forum right now!

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #323 on: July 21, 2025, 08:58:06 AM »
Slept on it, and decided to play into the naca ducts ability to draw on laminar flow.

Cut the top back by a lot - creating one of those 90's looking hood scoops to do the thing

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Re: Turbo Charged CB550 Landspeed Project
« Reply #324 on: July 21, 2025, 12:13:44 PM »
Welded three support tabs on the thing. 
Am happy with how it turned out.  Will have to check the steering dampers motion when its out of the chock.  Hopefully won't have to cut or dent too much.
Gonna take some sandpaper to it and stick some gold thermal tape on the motor side.

Getting the hang of all this aluminum welding.  Will have to redo the tank some day.