Topic: Online Parts Fiche Reference Options?

[GreaseMonkey]

What's the best source to use when researching/referencing parts fiches and numbers for these old SOHC fours?

I usually use Ronayers for my modern Honda bikes, but they only go far back as 1977.

Even though my bike is a 77 I'm often concocting conspiracy theories on cross parts compatabilities/mods/upgrades between different bikes and models.

Every time I search I'm often following dead links to now defunct businesses.

What's everyone on the boards using?

[jaytee-nz]

CMSNL in the Netherlands has all the parts diagrams you'll need.

[bryanj]

Plus if you create an account(free) and log in they will tell you all the bikes the part fits to

[GreaseMonkey]

CMNSL is the the only one I've found reliable so far, though I really hate their UI.

Thats a very helpful tip bryanj, thanks, would have never figured that out on my own.

[Don R]

 I usually go to Partzilla and look in the bikes with no year. (listed in their index)

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/motorcycle/models-with-no-year

 click on the item, even if unavailable and it will take you to the cross-reference page that tells what else it fits.

[commander60]

Bike Bandit

[GreaseMonkey]

I was under the impression the the commonly known big ones (Partzilla, Bike Bandit) didn't have diagrams for older bikes, will check again.

UI stands for user interface.

[david 750f]

CMSNL out of the Netherlands, plus they have a lot of parts that aren't available anywhere else.

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb750four_model14344/

[Deltarider]

CMNSL is the the only one I've found reliable so far, though I really hate their UI.

What is UI?
You're best served with the specific parts list for your specific model. For the CB550 models they're all here: https://www.honda4fun.com/materiale/documentazione-tecnica
First step every newcomer here should do, is to compare engine- and framenumber with those listed in the first 4 pages of the parts lists, this to pinpoint your model precisely. The year is irrelevant. Parts Lists offer a better overview. Have a look at the one that covers the models: CB550K, CB550K1 and CB550K2. In one glance you can see the differences. A much better overview than individual fiches. https://www.honda4fun.com/dwnload/Part-List/CB550/CB550-K0-K1-K2-Parts-List.pdf

[david 750f]

Delta, CMSNL breaks down the parts fiche to individual countries.

CB500
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb500four_model14343/

CB550
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb550-four_model14345/

[Alan F.]

+1 on creating a free account and using CMSNL.
Also search by part number and check the 'where used' link.

Then you can search eBay by part and model, each model it was used on. You can also search eBay for the Honda part #.

[GreaseMonkey]

Then you can search eBay by part and model, each model it was used on. You can also search eBay for the Honda part #.

You're giving away all the secrets!

[Maltboy]

This is a brotherhood of Honda enthusiasts dedicated to the preservation of their beloved machines.  There are no secrets. 

[jlh3rd]

+1 on using engine and frame #'s, to confirm which exact model of the bike you have.
+1 on CMS.

[CycleRanger]

I used to use Western Honda in Scottsdale but I guess they got tired of it since they took their online lookup and ordering off line and now the only way to order parts is to send them an email.

Too bad, I ordered a LOT of parts from them.

[Deltarider]

+1 on using engine and frame #'s, to confirm which exact model of the bike you have.
+1 on CMS.

This ^. Find out your exact model, including area code. We have seen enough posts about people going by the year and ending up with the wrong airfilter elements, cables and clutch discs. Only forsaid parts lists will inform you in detail on eventual modifications during a model 'year'. First check the parts list, then go to CMSNL.

[PeWe]

You need to know how your bike looked like from the very biginning. CMSNL charts are not 100% correct.
Swedisk CB750 K2 as an example. It had the small grab bar until 1975 as the earlier bikes had on left side.

CMSNL European Direct Sale charts has the bigger grab bar that was introduced on K6 bikes here. K2 1972-1975.
Plus other small details that differ.

So pristine bikes in 100% original important to get correct photos that can guide you how it looked like on that specific model in the specific country and year.

And it does not help to look at the registration year that can be wrong. My K6 is a clear 1976 since it was imported 1976.
But it was registrated as a 1977 model that did not help me when buying parts back in the days. Learned the hard way.
The frame and engine number charts on Internet are a great help to determine the correct year.

[bryanj]

Western hills sold all there "old" stock to cmsnl, i bought a lot from them even though im in uk and got  some great deals

[Deltarider]

Greasemonkey, what is 'UI'?

[robvangulik]

Greasemonkey, what is 'UI'?

Reply #6....

[jlh3rd]

All sources can have mistakes. An original, 1st edition, Honda parts book , my opinion, is about as accurate as you can expect. Originality is important to some, and that could require additional research beyond that.
    Model year, USA imports, started for 1974.....as per the official Honda guide book.

but even honda did stuff. The 1977 750 frame "part" that isn't officially there.

[Deltarider]

AFIK, Honda doesn't talk years. The reason I recommend to begin with the appropiate parts list is, errors in ordering will practically be nihil. For instance, if you know the PO of your bike has fitted Euro style handlebars, the parts list will inform you, there are cables in both sizes, for the US and the Euro style. If you have selected 'US model' at CMSNL you will not learn about this. In the part list that info is on the same page, so a better overview of your options. Also, it won't harm to see what other markets had. This may show you alternatives. The first few pages give all the info about colours etc. Some parts lists also inform how much time in F.T.R., replacement of a certain part is supposed to take.
Some owners of a CB550F have ordered the wrong numbers of clutch plates. P. 17 of the CB550F2 parts list is crystal clear however and even gives the serial number from which the modification took place: https://www.honda4fun.com/dwnload/Part-List/CB550/CB550-F2-Parts-List.pdf.
The best thing of consulting parts lists is, you will not bother us here with questions, that have been answered numerous times before...

[Alan F.]

There are still quite a few parts sources that are not online and may never be. Some with used parts and a few with NOS.

[jlh3rd]

yep....i know a local ex honda shop....unbelievable nos stuff, including whole bikes....he's not discount or wholesale however...
....but they're out there..dwindling.

[carnivorous chicken]

I used to use Western Honda in Scottsdale but I guess they got tired of it since they took their online lookup and ordering off line and now the only way to order parts is to send them an email.

Too bad, I ordered a LOT of parts from them.

Me too. And it was easy -- order and pay onine, pick up or they'd ship. And all the parts fiches. I figured the system was basically all automatic but there must have been some reason for why they discontinued the service.