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Drive hub stuck
« on: June 16, 2023, 03:26:28 PM »
How are you guys getting this off. Mine is old and chewed up and I cannot get it to hardly move.

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2023, 03:36:20 PM »
Or are you asking about the bearing retainer in the center of the drive hub??
As to the hub, it is sticking to the rubber dampers. Spray in some silicone to help lube the rubber to aluminum posts.
I usually leave the sprocket on to use as a lever point.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2023, 03:39:54 PM by newday777 »
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2023, 03:52:10 PM »
The retainer. I am having zero luck with it. It's turned little with a punch and hammer now it won't move.

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2023, 05:58:28 PM »
Quote from: Gurp on June 16, 2023, 03:52:10 PM
The retainer. I am having zero luck with it. It's turned little with a punch and hammer now it won't move.

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I'm guessing by the looks of the picture you didn't drill out the staking punches before turning it? 🤔
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2023, 06:03:33 PM »
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2023, 06:05:56 PM »
Quote from: newday777 on June 16, 2023, 05:58:28 PM
I'm guessing by the looks of the picture you didn't drill out the staking punches before turning it? 🤔
100% guaranteed they were not. And once you do drill them out, you may likely need some heat to release that retainer from the threads.
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2023, 06:35:49 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on June 16, 2023, 06:05:56 PM
Quote from: newday777 on June 16, 2023, 05:58:28 PM
I'm guessing by the looks of the picture you didn't drill out the staking punches before turning it? 🤔
100% guaranteed they were not. And once you do drill them out, you may likely need some LOTS OF heat to release that retainer from the threads.
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2023, 06:50:35 PM »
And that retainer is also reverse threaded.
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2023, 07:54:48 PM »
I ended up getting it. It was the reverse thread part that was getting me. Lol
Maybe a lack of sleep as well but mostly reverse thread.

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2023, 05:24:14 AM »
I’ve also found that since I bought the right tool, I haven’t messed any up, and been able to reuse them. I bought it on EBay (came from England!. 4 pins, 3/8” drive. I mount it up in my rechargeable impact gun (small), stand over the wheel (so I can push down annd keep it engaged 100%) and give it a few short blasts (after drilling). Spin right out.
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM »
Sounds like a great tool!
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2023, 08:26:13 AM »
If you're going to do a bunch of these a pin spanner is also a good investment.
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Cylinder-Spanner-Wrench-Adjustable/dp/B09D2XD2B4
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2023, 09:16:00 AM »
Quote from: BenelliSEI on June 17, 2023, 05:24:14 AM
I’ve also found that since I bought the right tool, I haven’t messed any up, and been able to reuse them. I bought it on EBay (came from England!. 4 pins, 3/8” drive. I mount it up in my rechargeable impact gun (small), stand over the wheel (so I can push down annd keep it engaged 100%) and give it a few short blasts (after drilling). Spin right out.
Do you have a link to the type you bought?

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2023, 02:16:11 PM »
Try Honda-classics.co.uk they do all the special tools plus stainless caliper pistons etc
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2023, 06:16:31 PM »
Quote from: bryanj on June 17, 2023, 02:16:11 PM
Try Honda-classics.co.uk they do all the special tools plus stainless caliper pistons etc

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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2023, 06:03:45 AM »
Reverse thread, I'll have to make a note of that.
I guess Honda Engineers couldn't trust staking the threads  to keep the retainer in place?

Is this only so on 500/550 or other models too?
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2023, 02:42:11 PM »
 I don't remember a 750 being left hand threads, but I'm pretty old and drank a few beers since the last one I took apart.
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Re: Drive hub stuck
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2023, 02:56:29 PM »
My K3 750 was not reverse thread as I recall, it was pretty tough to remove and install in spite of the threads looking fine.
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