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Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« on: September 12, 2024, 12:26:05 PM »
https://www.advrider.com/honda-is-working-on-a-four-cylinder-400/

Does it pique your curiosity or is it meh???

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2024, 01:08:46 PM »
Yes it Does  :)
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2024, 01:38:27 PM »
Sounds good to me!

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2024, 04:16:07 PM »
Excellent! Bike for when I’m +80!

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2024, 04:50:42 PM »
Turning 79 in December. Looks like it may be the one

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2024, 07:49:18 PM »
Hopefully it won't look anything like the CB300F...

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2024, 08:22:14 PM »
I wonder if they will make it with a normal (shift-me) tranny, or do what the others did with a "I don't need to learn to run the bike to ride the bike" automatic transmission...?
(Next comes the part about..."real men don't......").
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I wonder how many gears it will have?
I wonder how many cams it will have?
I wonder if you can service it without a laptop or handheld electronic device?

There's 2 of those 'little' Fours ripping (14k+ shift points) around my neighborhood, both with VERY loud pipes that have, frankly, pissed off a lot of folks who live around here. They like to complain to me about it because they see me riding mine around all the time. :(
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2024, 11:59:33 PM »
Agree with the comment on auto shift. Why is this being increasingly offered by manufacturers? I get that the biking demographic is aging, but on a 800lb Goldwing or 600lb BMW GSA, whether I can use my left toe to shift gear would not be my first concern.

Hope the new 400 looks like a motorbike (engine, 2 wheels, round tank and round headlight)!

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2024, 03:07:56 AM »
yeah #$%* this new fangled #$%*?i dont like the sound of the complexity?then again in the early 70s lotta older guys wouldve been thinking the exact same thing about these new damn 4 cylinder jap bikes we all love?

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2024, 04:07:07 AM »
Honda trying to catch up with Kawasaki again lol.  I hope they do not muck it up and de-tune the engine so it needs a flash right off the showroom floor.

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2024, 04:26:33 AM »
flash?what is this flash you speak of?cant we just install a dyna electronic ignition?

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2024, 05:02:04 AM »
...and carbs?

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2024, 06:45:15 AM »
I hope it looks like this……

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2024, 06:58:17 AM »
Dave500, They de-tuned the ZX4rr engine to a lower output in Canada. 11,500 rpm limiter verses 15,000-16,000 that should be present. Supposed to cut noise levels but cuts buyer numbers instead. Australia gets 70hp and we get 55hp.
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2024, 07:39:22 AM »
I'll guess it will blend right in with other modern bikes, unfortunately. I've said it before, many bikes look like props for a Transformer movie.
Hope for the best from Honda.
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2024, 04:35:31 PM »
yeah #$%* this new fangled #$%*?i dont like the sound of the complexity?then again in the early 70s lotta older guys wouldve been thinking the exact same thing about these new damn 4 cylinder jap bikes we all love?
Same here - but when I got my '75 CB400-4 in '85, my father thought I was bloody mad for getting such a "complicated" motorcycle?
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2024, 05:07:32 PM »
I wonder how it stacks-up to the 87' Yamaha FZR400?  The little Honda may blow it into the weeds  ::) :D
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2024, 06:05:37 PM »
I stumbled across this one on FB today at Old Biker
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2024, 06:29:43 PM »
I stumbled across this one on FB today at Old Biker

Oh,that's the bike that the OP started the thread with?

Which model name/designation is the newest Honda 400 four ?
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2024, 06:30:18 PM »
Confused as I rented a 400cc bike in Japan years ago....whats new here?

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2024, 07:47:53 PM »
I stumbled across this one on FB today at Old Biker
Is that the 400cc Gold Wing?
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2024, 11:15:17 PM »
No, this is a new 4 cylinder 400cc design motor Honda has come up with according to a trademark or patent Honda recently filed that indicates a new design motor is in the works.  No bike identified for that power plant.
The 400cc class is very popular overseas because of licensing and insurance there being significantly lower for bike of 400cc or less .

Whether or not we get to see any of these new motorcycles in the US is yet to be seen.

The new GB350C is being released in other countries but is not going to be sold in the US ...
It is selling in Japan for about $4695 or around $4300 without the consumption tax... But, market pricing varies with local and US pricing if it were ever offered here would be higher I assure you given the price for fir other offerings that are sold here and there.
The gb350c has about 20hp...fwiw


Emissions requirements in Europe would make it a fuel injected design in order to meet emissions requirements and a few bike designs went away with Euro5 emissions requirements kicked in as the old motor designs couldn't be made to burn that clean on other company offerings, not sure how many had that issue in Honda's lineup
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2024, 12:23:15 AM »
#$%*?they look like pigs?hasnt enfield already done this look?

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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2024, 12:34:19 AM »
#$%*?they look like pigs?hasnt enfield already done this look?
That is the Honda GB350C Dave... Yeah, I find it ugly too ...  Honda isn't very original lately on anything attempting a retro look they seem to gravitate to other company's looks rather than their own DNA...it makes no sense.
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2024, 02:38:51 AM »
if they come to Australia they will be laughed out off existence,or losers will buy them?

#$%*?if they gonna go that far retro why not repro our small fours,with same profile but injection etc?
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Re: Honda working on new 4 cylinder 400cc design...
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2024, 07:22:47 PM »
They might have hired the ghost of BSA's 1960s styling department?
..but with cast wheels and disc brakes...
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