Author Topic: Penetrating oil test (Read 34566 times)

francisew · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2007, 05:10:08 PM »

Quote from: TwoTired on April 03, 2007, 04:29:44 PM

Quote from: Geeto67 on April 03, 2007, 02:32:20 PM
can I just use straight ATF? isn;t ATF by itself hydrosopic?

You can use any kind of Automatic Transmission Fluid you want, I suppose. The acetone thins the fluid viscosity for penetration into tiny crevices, I expect.

What is the relevance of hydrosopic? (A word I can't find in the dictionary, btw. Did you mean hygroscopic? )

Cheers,

Hydroscopic means that it absorbs water. I guess that it can pull moisture out of the rusty surfaces... Meanwhile, you answered my question, I didn't realize that ATF was transmission fluid. Pretty cool.

francisew · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2007, 05:10:57 PM »

Quote from: gold01ca on April 03, 2007, 08:30:25 PM

great info TT, thank you!
gonna try the atf/acetone on my rusty front disc bleed screw (new speedbleeder going in)

Where did you get your speed-bleeder & how has it worked out for you? I'd like to try the same for my '83 cb650 sc.

Thanks,
Francis

francisew · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2007, 05:15:21 PM »

To store acetone & other solvents, generally polyethylene squeeze bottles do a great job. In chemistry we get expensive 'nalgene' bottles, but I think they're mostly just very clean & pure polyethylene. See wikipedia for more info... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalgene

Francis

Quote from: coolcat2002 on April 05, 2007, 09:22:30 PM

I was going to buy Nail Polish Remover for $0.99 but then I looked at my Brake Cleaner and the main stuff is acetone. It even smells like a nail polish remover. I got a $1.99 aerosol can by ValueCraft at Autozone. (needed to clean my brakes also) The name brand stuff don't explicitly say what's in it but this one did.
Acetone is otherwise $13.50/ gallon at my Home Depot.

When I took organic chemistry, they use plastic squeeze bottle with an angled sprout to store dilluted acetone & clean stuff, $1 maybe.

That link to the $38 pressure can, man, yall rich or something?
Seriously, like $10 for a single rubber carb boot?? When I read things like that it just discourages me to own a CB. I couldn't give a rat's ass about OEM sandcast BS. They should put that on the Rich Guy's Forum. I mean if you're gonna blow that kinda money on a piece of rubber, why bother coming to this forum. On a positive note, thanks for putting up a cheap alternative and other homemade stuff.

This and Slickdeals.net are my favorite forums.

hopterfixer · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:30:50 PM »

I use the nalgene bottles at work. I can tell you from experience, the acetone and MEK will eat the guts of those plastic spray bottles making them bottles that don't spray.

mrbreeze · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:40:42 PM »

I didn't know those Sure Shots were so pricey but I think with something like that,you're better off paying the extra $ than buying at Harbor Freight to save some bucks. Harbor Freight has cheap sh!t stuff that some of it is OK but other stuff.....nix!!!! I buy air fittings,brushes,other misc.things. Even bought a kit that compresses pistons on automotive brake calipers that have the e-brake incorporated in ($20) but I wouldn't buy power tools there or gear pullers. Also bought impact sockets there (Pittsburg brand) cheap and haven't broke any yet. Go buy a set of impact sockets from the Snap-on truck and the thing that will be broke is you!!!!

mrbreeze · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:43:25 PM »

Quote from: dusterdude on April 06, 2007, 06:21:09 AM

liquid wrench better than pb?,thanks tt,you just blew my bubble....lol

I was also surprised there Duster. I thought PB was the sh!t.........now I will have to run some tests of my own!!!

gold01ca · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2007, 12:08:33 AM »

Quote from: francisew on April 06, 2007, 05:10:57 PM

Quote from: gold01ca on April 03, 2007, 08:30:25 PM
great info TT, thank you!
gonna try the atf/acetone on my rusty front disc bleed screw (new speedbleeder going in)

Where did you get your speed-bleeder & how has it worked out for you? I'd like to try the same for my '83 cb650 sc.

Thanks,
Francis

Francis, www.speedbleeder.com, ordered it online
I havent got around to installing it yet, but lots of the comrades on this forum recommend it.

cheers!

TwoTired · « **Reply #32 on:** April 07, 2007, 01:55:47 AM »

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gonna try the atf/acetone on my rusty front disc bleed screw (new speedbleeder going in)

Squirt it into the bleeder hole, too. It's not just the threads that corrode tight, the bleeder seat does, too! The bleeder hole gets penetrating oil to the seat as well as the deep side of the threads.

Cheers,

gold01ca · « **Reply #33 on:** April 07, 2007, 05:26:19 PM »

Quote from: TwoTired on April 07, 2007, 01:55:47 AM

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gonna try the atf/acetone on my rusty front disc bleed screw (new speedbleeder going in)

Squirt it into the bleeder hole, too. It's not just the threads that corrode tight, the bleeder seat does, too! The bleeder hole gets penetrating oil to the seat as well as the deep side of the threads.

Cheers,

thanks for the tip TT

gold01ca · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2007, 12:14:27 AM »

ATF and Acetone does work good. ATF, Acetone, Mineral Sprits and kerosene in equal parts works even better. It was designed as a solvent at Frankford Arsenal for government firearms. Its called "Ed's Red". Fellow shooters here will know of it. Its cheap, dissolves carbon and penetrates very well.

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mixed up the "Eds Red", soaked the front disc bleeder screw which looked pretty rusted up, let 'er sit a couple of days and she backed right out! good stuff!
put the new stainless speedbleeder in and had the system flushed with new DOT3 in a matter of minutes.

MotoRico · « **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:48:03 PM »

Quote from: ChevelleSSLS6 on April 03, 2007, 10:07:07 PM

the atf/acetone would be great in the compressed air cans... they used them at the dealership (dodge) I used to work at as a shop kid (I used the b-word there but gotta play nice here ) First you put the chemical you want to spray (there they used mostly brake clean, here I'd use atf+acetone) and then pressurize it with compressed air. And it's reuseable. Dunno where I could pick one up.

I don't know if anyone as said anything about the can but I saw one at Northern Tool a while back.

TEET76 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:27:07 PM »

Interesting article....I used wd-40 exclusively for years.....I'll have to try the ATF concoction. Ive been using this other stuff for the last couple of years, and it makes the old wd40, and liquid wrench look like muddy water....anyone else ever use it??

mark · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:49:45 PM »

Haven't tried that or the atf stuff.

This works:

Röst Off from those clever folks at Würth GMBH

Not on every store shelf, darnit.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:54:14 PM »

One of the little screw on reflectors on my K0 headlight ears is rusted in good, so my alternatives are to drill through the reflector so i can drill through the head of the screw, thus destroying the reflector, or try TT's concoction, I'll do that now and report back! Cheers, Terry.

hopterfixer · « **Reply #39 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:11:12 AM »

I work part time restoring 60 year old airplanes and I have been able to put the ATF/Acteone to the test. I have discovered that a 50/50 mix (as tested) works the best, I say that because the acetone will evaporate out if left open, and the mixture will settle out so you have to shake the mixture before applying. If you can soak the area well before attempting removal of the troublesome part, it works best. I would soak things several times an let it sit overnight if possible. I have made believers out of devout Kroil users, which was not easy to do. I have separated parts from each other that I would have previously tossed.

edbikerii · « **Reply #40 on:** January 25, 2008, 06:05:28 AM »

Terry,

Acetone on plastic reflector might be a big no-no, depending upon the formulation of the plastic.

"test in inconspicuous area first" comes to mind.

Ed

KRONUS0100 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:21:44 AM »

Acetone........like as in nail polish remover? My daughter has a ton of thatstuff.

hopterfixer · « **Reply #42 on:** January 25, 2008, 07:15:07 PM »

Yes. You could probably get a gallon of acetone for the same price as a bottle of nail polish remover.

toycollector10 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:33:30 PM »

I'm using PB Blaster and it's the shizzle for the gnizzle. I had never seen or heard of it before until I went to an engineering supply shop and I immediatly thought that it would come in handy. I use it all the time now.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #44 on:** January 26, 2008, 12:20:45 AM »

Quote from: edbikerii on January 25, 2008, 06:05:28 AM

Terry,

Acetone on plastic reflector might be a big no-no, depending upon the formulation of the plastic.

"test in inconspicuous area first" comes to mind.

Ed

Thanks Ed, I can get at if from behind (the headlight ears are off the bike) so I'm hoping it won't bugger the reflector, but I can still buy K0 reflectors from Yamiya, so no biggie if I do. It's soaking now. Cheers, Terry.

SOICHIROSFOUR · « **Reply #45 on:** January 26, 2008, 09:36:06 AM »

Do you think ATF/Acetone mix is a good solution for a possible stuck piston ring? I bought a project and have a cylinder with 50 less psi than the other, so I thought I would pour 1 or 2 ounces of this magical elixir into the plug hole. Any problems with acetone leaking past the rings and into the oil?

malcolmgb · « **Reply #46 on:** January 26, 2008, 10:13:37 AM »

any idea if this ATF/Acetone mix would work on an aluminium to aluminium seized part, I am trying to release a seized damper spring seat.

hopterfixer · « **Reply #47 on:** January 26, 2008, 11:01:47 AM »

Quote from: SOICHIROSFOUR on January 26, 2008, 09:36:06 AM

Do you think ATF/Acetone mix is a good solution for a possible stuck piston ring? I bought a project and have a cylinder with 50 less psi than the other, so I thought I would pour 1 or 2 ounces of this magical elixir into the plug hole. Any problems with acetone leaking past the rings and into the oil?

The acetone will evaporate out, I would be more concerned with the slippery ATF in my engine oil.

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