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« on: April 05, 2007, 02:11:50 AM »
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If you're ever in Wilmington, N.C.--It's a "can't miss"--USS North Carolina
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 03:21:21 AM »
Funny something made me think of all the Iowa class ships yesterday at work.





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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 06:18:36 AM »
There were 4 of them if I remember correctly. The NC, jersey, Missouri, but I cant remember the last off hand.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 07:36:36 AM »
Iowa BB 61, New Jersey BB 62, Missouri BB 63, Wisconsin BB 64. Illinois and Kentucky (65, 66) were cancelled.

North Carolina was a NC class with the Washington.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 07:41:35 AM »
I used to live 45 minutes from there.  I was able to visit the ship twice, pretty neat to see. 

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 08:05:53 AM »
This is one of my favorite pics of battleships (and cruisers):



USS Pennsylvania, USS Colorado, USS Louisville, USS Portland, and USS Columbia.

I just love that squat, head-on view.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 08:22:12 AM »
Looks dangerous.  What if the first guy slams on his brakes?!
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 08:49:26 AM »
Never seen the North Carolina. I would love to though. I've seen the USS Yorktown in Charleston, USS Midway in San Diego, USS Intrepid in New York, and USS Alabama in Mobile. I REALLY want to go to Pearl Harbor to see the Mighty Mo and the USS Arizona memorial.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 09:57:38 AM »
So thats what all the names were. Been a long time since I did any reading on WW2. I would love to see all these old ships. Back from when war really was hell.

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 10:46:58 AM »
Damn you gerhed I'm gonna have to drag out more pictures
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 11:00:19 AM »
Been a long time since I did any reading on WW2. I would love to see all these old ships. Back from when war really was hell.
It's not about ships, but i just finished Flyboys by James Bradley (who wrote Flags of our Fathers) and it was an excellent read. It's about American fliers who were shot down over Chichi Jima and then disappeared. It also discusses the history of the war with Japan, aircraft in battle, bombing strategies over Tokyo, history and families of the boys, etc. He interviewed a lot of veterans, on both sides, and came out with a really deep book.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 11:49:30 AM »
I love WWII history. Both of my grandfathers served. One was a shipwelders mate on the USS Coral Sea and the other was a paratrooper in the 11th Airbourne Division "The Angels." They both have some great stories and some bad memories.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 12:58:27 PM »
but i just finished Flyboys by James Bradley

I'm assuming not anything like the awful movie of the same name that only got a 33% approval rating on RottenTomatoes.com?
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 01:02:06 PM »
but i just finished Flyboys by James Bradley

I'm assuming not anything like the awful movie of the same name that only got a 33% approval rating on RottenTomatoes.com?
Uhh...no. Nothing like the "Pearl Harbor" movie either.  :P ::)
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 02:59:59 PM »
What was it that they sang on Team America: World Police?

I miss you more then Michael Bay missed the mark
When he made Pearl Harbor
I miss you more than that movie missed the point
And that’s an awful lot girl
And now, now you’ve gone away
And all I’m trying to say is
Pearl Harbor sucked, and I miss you

I need u like Ben Affleck needs acting school
He was terrible in that film
I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
He’s way better than Ben Affleck
And now all I can think about is your smile
and that #$%*ty movie too
Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you

Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
I guess Pearl Harbor sucked
Just a little bit more than I miss you
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2007, 04:45:54 PM »
Speaking of the Iowa Class, I always thought that it was pretty low of the Navy to have just swept that whole turret explosion scandal under the rug when the more probable theory came out as to the reason for the explosion.  Even though it was proven that the powder bags were unstable and would spontaneously explode, the Navy stuck to it's theory that it was sabotage by a jilted gay sailor.  Just seems to me that if you're going to accuse somebody and slander their name, you should have more proof.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2007, 06:05:51 PM »
Heres another famous ship for you gerhed....







Anyone recognize it? lol
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2007, 06:10:27 PM »
Don't know.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2007, 06:28:57 PM »
Heres another famous ship for you gerhed....


Anyone recognize it? lol

I believe that is the HMS Belfast on the Thames. I had the privledge of passing starboard of her in 2000.

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2007, 06:33:25 PM »
BTW...

Did anyone else notice the google ad for the Iowa Singles Club? I'm guessing that is a fairly mature group! ;D

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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2007, 07:57:31 PM »
BTW...

Did anyone else notice the google ad for the Iowa Singles Club? I'm guessing that is a fairly mature group! ;D

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2007, 08:08:44 PM »
Speaking about Iowa class battleships...
A long time ago, when I was eleven or twelve years old, I assembled a plastic “kit” of USS Missouri, from Revel.
Those toys where great, and the assembling instructions came with a short story of the boat, and I was very impressed because the Japanese surrender act took place aboard USS Missouri.
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2007, 07:12:18 AM »
I saw the Battleship New Jersey unleash it's guns. Talk about shock and awe.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2007, 07:40:35 AM »
I saw the Battleship New Jersey unleash it's guns. Talk about shock and awe.
In '68 the Jersey was off DaNang about 20 miles.
We couldn't see it but the shells going overhead
into the Ah-Sha valley often sounded just like incoming rounds.
A little disconcerting, to say the least !
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2007, 08:53:37 AM »
I saw the Battleship New Jersey unleash it's guns. Talk about shock and awe.
In '68 the Jersey was off DaNang about 20 miles.
We couldn't see it but the shells going overhead
into the Ah-Sha valley often sounded just like incoming rounds.
A little disconcerting, to say the least !

Gerhed,

Funny you mention the New Jersey, I'm currently reading 'Dear Mom: A Sniper's Vietnam' by Joseph T. Ward and he mentions they were deep in the bush and they were taking enemy fire.  His skipper called for artillery strikes and fire command switched him over to the New Jersey.  They were eleven miles inland and the Jersey was seven miles off shore.  The coordinates were barely given before a 2,200 lb. shell flew overhead 'like an invisible freight train' and hit right on target.   The skipper verified the hit and said 'have at it'.

'Our stomachs were pushed in and out from the shockwaves of the explosion....  In scant minutes, the New Jersey had placed sixtyy thousand pounds of high explosives exactly on target.  The company broke into cheers as the hill literally disappeared.'

'When the ship called back to see if we needed more help, all the skipper couldl say was, "No thanks, New Jersey, there's nothing left to fire at".'

Another good story about these beasts comes from the book 'Crusade' by Rick Atkinson (an EXCELLENT read btw) that is about the 1st Gulf War.  One story talks about the USS Wisconsin:

'Stan Arthur, the Navy commander on Blue Ridge, had spoken boldly before the war of firing the sixteen-inch guns "until their barrels melt".  Lack of oppertunity and a belief that the shells would be needed to support an amphibious landing led to an initial conservation of ordinance.  But Schwarzkopf's cancelation of Desert Saber' (amphipious assult) 'allowed the two battleships to unlimber with greater vegeance.  So much steel raked the southern Kuwaiti coast that the CINC finally told Cal Waller, "Get hold of Stan Arthur and tell him to quit wasting ammunition hitting the same area over and over again".

Waller called Blue Ridge.  "Cal, I understand your concern," Arthur replied, "but what the hell do you want me to do?  The battleships are about to be decommissioned.  I can take all these sixteen-inch shells and shoot them at the enemy, or I can take them home and put them in a museum."  Waller laughed, as did Schwarzkopf, who issued a counterorder: "Have at it".'

By war's end, more than a thousand shells had fallen on the Kuwaiti shore.  I would not have wanted to be on the other end of that!!!!

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