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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2025, 12:11:38 PM »
UPDATE - With the carbs now clean and new OEM float valves, today marked the first legit test start.

I mounted the carbs but not the airbox so I could more closely monitor fuel leaks. Yes, I did do a bench test first. There were a few leaks on the bench, but they seemed to be improving as the gas swelled the old orings. Carb 4 still has a small leak coming out the bottom, so I'll monitor that. I did not totally de-rack the carbs based on input from another thread. As long as the fuel tubes don't leak I'll keep the assembly intact.

To test the openness of the slow jet, I fitted a fuel tube over the jet (shown below) then sprayed various fluids (carb cleaner, kroil, alcohol) into the tube letting them soak until the fluids ran through the jet ran freely. Compressed air helped the process.

The bike now starts and runs consistently, but since the airbox is not yet installed I have to constantly manipulate the choke to limit the air flow. Cyls 2&3 got nice and hot, but 1&4 were just warm. They have good compression and spark, so it must be a fuel/air issue. #4 might be too rich due to the overfill described above.  I'll mount the airbox next session and see if the full system & time fixes 1&4. If so, I'll move on to brakes, tank, tires, chain, etc.

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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2025, 01:21:54 PM »
 I believe the pilot air circuit pulls air through one of the bleeds in the opening at the air filter end, it goes past the idle screw valve, pulling air and fuel through the jet and its emulsion tube holes, it then gets pulled into the venturi near the slide notch. Carb cleaner and air can be used in any/all of those openings to be sure they have flow.
  I'm sure something I wrote is technically incorrect but that's my thought process when cleaning the carb idle system.
  I like the float valves with the little screens on top, I've used the ones for F1 in a similar numbered K6 carb. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the 77/78 keyhole carbs though.
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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2025, 02:40:34 AM »
UPDATE - She's getting close. I'm now just brakes and a clean tank away from a test ride. The tank and front brakes will be tackled this weekend, but the rear brake remains a challenge.

The original m/c is frozen solid, as is a replacement bought from a parts bike nearby.

If I can't get either moving I'll have to look for a third option, either legit CB750F or one from another bike, preferably another Honda. Any suggestions?
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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2025, 04:13:32 AM »
I saw your wanted ad for the rear caliper and master cylinder and posted a link on using a grease gun to free up the stuck pistons.  Have you tried that? I was successful in freeing a spare 78F rear master and caliper that were both stuck this way. Let me know if it works for you or not...

Hydraulic method to free master cylinder (and calipers are done the same way)


Did you get it running properly from your idle circuit cleaning tube/concoction mix?? You didn't say any more on it above.
If not, this is a great write-up and pictures of properly cleaning 78F carbs and the accelerator pump circuits so it will run the way it should.
78F carb cleaning thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2025, 04:34:25 AM »
I saw your wanted ad for the rear caliper and master cylinder and posted a link on using a grease gun to free up the stuck pistons.  Have you tried that? I was successful in freeing a spare 78F rear master and caliper that were both stuck this way. Let me know if it works for you or not...

Hydraulic method to free master cylinder (and calipers are done the same way)


Did you get it running properly from your idle circuit cleaning tube/concoction mix?? You didn't say any more on it above.
If not, this is a great write-up and pictures of properly cleaning 78F carbs and the accelerator pump circuits so it will run the way it should.
78F carb cleaning thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204

Hi newday,

It is running and idling proper now, although a few of the float bowls have occasional leaks I need to resolve.

I haven't yet tried a hydraulic approach to freeing the piston, but will do that soon. Thinking through that, it may also free up the master  cyl if I can cobble together bolts and lines to make the fluid pressure from a good m/c apply pressure to the bad one. Conveniently, I have a BMW R1200RT project with front brake/ABS issues, so that functioning master cyl may provide the hydraulic source for freeing things up.

BTW, here are the latest pics, with some of the chrome polished and decades old grunge removed from the sprocket area

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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2025, 07:21:08 AM »
Good progress 👏
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2025, 07:24:20 AM »
Looks great. Great work.

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Re: Rescuing a '78 CB750F SS
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2025, 09:53:15 AM »
Looks great!  Good luck on brakes.
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