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Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« on: April 30, 2008, 07:17:54 AM »
 For those of us who came of age in the late 60s and early 70s, this might be of interest. Anybody remember orange sunshine?  purple microdot?    So long ago and far away  :)

 Albert Hofmann, the father of the mind-altering drug LSD whose medical discovery grew into a notorious illicit substance, died Tuesday. He was 102.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/04/30/lsd-hofmann.html

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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 07:37:20 AM »
If you ever met the man, or his invention  ;) you might want to collect some of this "art".  These are signed by Peter Fonda and Timothy Leary, but there's LOTS of very cool, unsigned ones also...






http://www.blotterart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=2


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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 09:07:37 AM »
LSD showed promise in psychotherapy
but lost credibility in the medical community after
Leary got hold of it.
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 09:35:12 AM »
This explains that strange sense of loss and grief I haven't been able to put my finger on.   :'(
 Once I ate a piece that would have encircled the bunny in the lower left corner of the looking glass sheet. That was a good twenty hours of the wavey, it took a full 48 hours to remember where home was. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you get the idea.
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 09:40:47 AM »
Well then i am glad I got to take some of his medicine this weekend at the Coachella Music Festival!! ;D
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 10:12:06 AM »
Damn hippies!


Oh wait, I resemble that remark!   ;)


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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 10:20:58 AM »
Quote from: mystic_1 on April 30, 2008, 10:12:06 AM
the self-described "father" of LSD readily agreed that the drug was dangerous if in the wrong hands.

I guess the same could be said for car keys
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 05:47:12 PM »
Window pane.  Oh, yea, and I knew upperlake would come out, he's an old hippie. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 06:22:24 PM »
Quote from: gerhed on April 30, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
LSD showed promise in psychotherapy
but lost credibility in the medical community after
Leary got hold of it.
Actually Bill W the founder of AA found it very good to treat Alcoholism. Unfortunately, our Society demonizes something and you just can't use it. In the UK they use Heroin on Cancer Patients and it relieves their pain very well and they are more alert than on the painkillers we use in the US.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 06:38:09 PM »
Quote from: BobbyR on April 30, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
Quote from: gerhed on April 30, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
LSD showed promise in psychotherapy
but lost credibility in the medical community after
Leary got hold of it.
Actually Bill W the founder of AA found it very good to treat Alcoholism. Unfortunately, our Society demonizes something and you just can't use it. In the UK they use Heroin on Cancer Patients and it relieves their pain very well and they are more alert than on the painkillers we use in the US.

Of course, drugs produced by drug companies aren't demonized but then drug companies make lots of bucks and know how to lobby.  ;)
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 06:47:08 AM »
memories..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
many good times at the lake....
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 06:57:07 AM »
Quote from: mrblasty on April 30, 2008, 09:35:12 AM
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  That's as good a description as any Blasty - its like trying to describe colour to a blind man, as I recall..
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 07:19:02 AM »
Yep.  You can say "breathing walls" as many times as you want, but until you see it yourself...

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 03:25:33 PM »
or tunnel door that turns into multiple doors as opened... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 03:55:27 PM »
he was in a video we watched in my last semester at school in my "drugs and society" course... yes, i saved the best courses for last  ;)

in some of the footage he looked crazed and strung out in his lab and it seemed as if he'd been up for days "testing".  great footage!   ;D

anyway... off to watch the carpet  ;)
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 04:25:56 PM »
Quote from: heffay on May 01, 2008, 03:55:27 PM
anyway... off to watch the carpet  ;)

I once had the opportunity to watch oil spots on a concrete floor bloom into beautiful flowers. I sat there enjoying that for hours. Oh, what a colorful palate my twenties were.  :-X 
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 04:48:11 PM »
the first time i ever tried it . i ended up going home (smart, i know) and my dad was giving me the "why are you home at 2am speech"  while i'm watching his chest hair turn green and, start growing and budding leaves and sh*t . .. and was still trying to play it cool, and not start laughing..... i ended up telling him about that a few years ago

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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 05:06:06 PM »
wow, does this thread bring back many memories of my own extraterrestrial experiences
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 05:19:52 PM »
I once discovered the meaning of life in an empty bag of cheetos.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 05:32:44 PM »
Nope none of that stuff for me. I am not wrapped tight enough.
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2008, 05:44:39 PM »
Quote from: BobbyR on May 01, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Nope none of that stuff for me. I am not wrapped tight enough.

Do you mean you'd come undone?
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2008, 05:48:11 PM »
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Quote from: BobbyR on May 01, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Nope none of that stuff for me. I am not wrapped tight enough.

Do you mean you'd come undone?

If you ask me, I think the stuff is more for the loose ones. This is why I no longer experiment with it. I've become too much of a tight wad.... ;D Loosie Goosie baby, Loosie Goosie.
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2008, 06:00:25 PM »
  Oh ya, go with the flow :D     The flora stories are interesting - there were leaves growing from the bare tree, then they turned autumn colours, fell off and drifted down into the snow, all in -30 weather.  I think there is momentus cosmic significance in the shared experience but I can't think of what it is. ;D
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2008, 06:21:47 PM »
Sampled a lot of the local plant life in Southeast Asia. Just never had the urge. Trust me I am nuts enough as it is.
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2008, 06:36:13 PM »
During a mega-dose(5 hits of double dipped) I watched mountains perkolate, the Turnigan Arm(a fjord) slither like a 14 mile long silt grey snake upwards into clouds, and met a very short woman, at the time I was convinced she was an elf, turns out she was my friends mom whom I had never met and had the heater core in the station wagon blow-up and spray antifreeze all over my leg and fog the crap out of the windows. The only flash back I have ever had was 7 years after that trip, I was pulling into a parking spot and felt what I thought was hot antifreeze on my leg, and tasted the sweet taste of it in my mouth, looking dow in a panic, I saw nothing and realized what has happened. ;D
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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2008, 06:37:27 PM »
Quote from: BobbyR on May 01, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
Sampled a lot of the local plant life in Southeast Asia. Just never had the urge. Trust me I am nuts enough as it is.

Actually Bobby, I think LSD was invented for nuts.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2008, 06:57:12 AM »
Quote from: heffay on May 01, 2008, 03:55:27 PM

anyway... off to watch the carpet  ;)


Anybody play Guitar Hero?  As soon as a song ends, look down.  After watching the notes scroll down for a few minutes straight, the carpet will appear to "crawl" up.   
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2008, 07:37:17 AM »
What a loss.  I guess the story of the invention was that he tried some of what he'd come up with (derived from ergot, right?) and said "Well, crap, it's not working."  and took a bike ride home.  and WHAT a ride. 

I'm not sure I'm tightly wrapped enough, I get high and after the 3rd hour of stonage I start gettin' a little freaked and wanting to come down... so hours and hours of lsd would probably scare me.  shrooms were enough.  I'm *in* my weird 20s... but I think I've experimented enough for quite awhile.  Still... everyone remembers their first experiences.  I remember watching the lightbulbs get sucked in and out of their sockets and the wooden paneling on the walls running like wet watercolor...

as for medicine, yeah... heroin and marijuana have fantastic medicinal qualities but H is *so* addictive, and marijuana has been abused so badly, they both have lost credibility as decent pharmaceuticals.  A shame.  It's like $1 gasoline.  If we had access to it, would we merrily ride motorcycles, drive priuses/hybrids/geo metros, or would there be MORE hummers/ SUVs and massive trucks on the road?  people aren't known for their restraint. ::)

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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2008, 07:52:57 AM »
Quote from: Kitsune84 on May 02, 2008, 07:37:17 AM
marijuana has been abused so badly, they both have lost credibility as decent pharmaceuticals. 


where do you live?  i would disagree, wholeheartedly.
many cities are lifting ordinances against MJ that have been in place for many decades.
medicinal MJ is is in use all over the world!

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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2008, 08:15:25 AM »
I live in Oregon.  Sure they're lifting ordinances etc, but still, if you say you have a medical mj card, people will mock you.

It's not getting the research it deserves. Canabinoids do wonders for parkinsons, diabetics (lowering blood sugar) and cancer patients...

It'll just be a while before it really gains the respect it deserves. 
On a side note, hemp seed is actually really high protein and the oil's good for cooking, the fiber is strong and makes nice clothes etc... I think the whole thing would be really useful... but I'm just a hippy with an old motorcycle, so don't listen to me. ;)
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2008, 08:16:35 AM »
Am I the only one who thought "limited slip differential" when I read the title? :P
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2008, 08:28:44 AM »


         Yes.




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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2008, 09:57:50 AM »
Quote from: Kitsune84 on May 02, 2008, 08:15:25 AM
I live in Oregon.  Sure they're lifting ordinances etc, but still, if you say you have a medical mj card, people will mock you.

It's not getting the research it deserves. Canabinoids do wonders for parkinsons, diabetics (lowering blood sugar) and cancer patients...

It'll just be a while before it really gains the respect it deserves. 
On a side note, hemp seed is actually really high protein and the oil's good for cooking, the fiber is strong and makes nice clothes etc... I think the whole thing would be really useful... but I'm just a hippy with an old motorcycle, so don't listen to me. ;)

I don't know if that's because of the amount of "abuse" as some people may call it or due to the amount of government propaganda that's been shoved down our throats for generations. We have a wide population of people who take the government at their word and what they say as gospel with out the ability to think for themselves. It just seems strange to me that more people abuse alcohol and tobacco with far more health risks involved with less risk of prosecution provided you drink responsibly.
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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2008, 11:38:39 AM »
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It's not getting the research it deserves.

that's because way back when it was a highly misunderstood (and hated by the moralists) drug, they (the effing gov't) made it a schedule one drug... meaning, no research, no nothin'... it is illegal as an illegal drug can be...  at least in the US.

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Re: Inventor of LSD dies at age 102
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2008, 12:38:05 PM »
Quote from: heffay on May 02, 2008, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: Kitsune84 on May 02, 2008, 08:15:25 AM


It's not getting the research it deserves.

that's because way back when it was a highly misunderstood (and hated by the moralists) drug, they (the effing gov't) made it a schedule one drug... meaning, no research, no nothin'... it is illegal as an illegal drug can be...  at least in the US.

retarded... absolutely, retarded.

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